Nonetheless, I voted for "Suffragette City."
― JN$OT, Monday, 3 September 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link
"Soul Love." It swings so.
― poortheatre, Monday, 3 September 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link
It's hard to choose b/w Five Years, Soul Love and Lady Stardust, but I chose the latter.
― pft, Monday, 3 September 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link
"Suffragette City"
Almost said "Starman" but we'll leave that for "all the lurkers".
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 3 September 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link
It's very strange, because this was probably the single most important album in terms of forming my musical taste, and a watershed moment in my teenage development, and yet I was just thinking the other week that these days I'd rather listen to Mick Ronson's "Slaughter on 10th Avenue" most of the time.
Looking down the list of songs that I've probably played thousands of times, the only one I feel much desire to hear is "Hang On To Yourself." I could happily never hear to song "Ziggy Stardust" ever again.
I think "Star" was my favorite back when I was listening to this every day.
― dlp9001, Monday, 3 September 2007 22:46 (seventeen years ago) link
And thanx to Geir for resisting the urge to include bullshit bonus tracks.
I'm way too rockist to even consider doing something like that. :)
Besides, the two most recent and most state-of-the-art versions of that CD contains either no bonus tracks at all or all the bonus tracks collected on one separate CD.
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 3 September 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link
The right answer is "Moonage Daydream," of course, but I'm still going with "Suffragette City."-- Alex in NYC, Monday, September 3, 2007 11:40 AM
-- Alex in NYC, Monday, September 3, 2007 11:40 AM
― talrose, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Diff. to choose between "Five Years", "Soul Love", "Moonage Daydream", "Starman" (hey, hold, those are the FIRST 4 TRACKS!) "Ziggy Stardust" itself is also grebt.
― Tom D., Tuesday, 4 September 2007 10:01 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm going for "Moonage Daydream"
― Tom D., Tuesday, 4 September 2007 10:03 (seventeen years ago) link
I thought Moonage Daydream when I saw the thread title, before seeing the tracklisting (it's years since I've listened to this album). Now I'm confronted with Starman, Suffragette City & Rock'n'Roll Suicide I'm not sure!
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 10:07 (seventeen years ago) link
Lady Stardust is clearly the best.
― niceboy, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 10:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Starman. Sorry.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link
Although obviously a good album, I'm wondering whether it really deserves its reputation... it's far and away Bowie's best known LP, the one that really broke him, his Sgt Pepper, Starman on TOTP key moment in 70s musical history, bla bla bla... but honestly I can think of a half a dozen Bowie albums I'd rather hear. I think Bowie himself has said it's overrated and he finds the sound thin... all in all I think Hunky Dory's the better album of this period. Aladdin Sane not as good perhaps but does Ziggy have anything as musically imaginative as the Aladdin Sane title track? It's pretty conventional rock for its time, isn't it?
Anyway, I go for Five Years (despite that horribly clunky dying/lying couplet)...
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 10:45 (seventeen years ago) link
"Moonage Daydream" by a Lunar mile.
― PhilK, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 11:04 (seventeen years ago) link
lady stardust!
― pisces, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link
I almost picked five years too - I didn't think there'd be so much love for that track out of all of them. Still, went with Moonage Daydream.
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link
Further to what some people are suggesting, this is one of the most important albums in my lifetime (important to me personally, I mean), but the truth is, when you break it down song by song as in this poll it's really kind of wanting. Four or five individual tracks hold up well, the rest sound ok in context and at least a couple are out and out shit. I probably like "Hang on to Yourself" best. (And much prefer the two hard rockers from Aladdin Sane--"Watch That Man" and "Panic in Detroit"--to just about anything here... Pin Ups is also a better listen.
― sw00ds, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link
Pin Ups is also a better listen.
Away wi' ye
― Tom D., Tuesday, 4 September 2007 13:08 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm not going as far as saying Pin Ups is better, but there is something a little two-dimensional about the album compared to the ones either side. Now I'm thinking about it, maybe Aladdin Sane is actually better than Ziggy, despite the horrendous Let's Spend The Night Together.
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link
Away wi' you too
― Tom D., Tuesday, 4 September 2007 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link
No way is "Aladdin Sane" better than ZSATSFM, and "Hunky Dory" is such a different kind of album, I wouldn't compare the two
― Tom D., Tuesday, 4 September 2007 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link
Ziggy and Hunky Dory were only recorded a few weeks apart I think... are they really so different as to be uncomparable? Hunky Dory's more eclectic, less rocky, but both sound pretty much of their (common) time and place.
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 13:31 (seventeen years ago) link
A few weeks apart? I don't think they were. "Hunky Dory" is more singer songwriterish, more arranged, ZSATSFM has a band feel to it - same musicians playing on every track.
― Tom D., Tuesday, 4 September 2007 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link
Pin Ups and (the best parts of) Aladdin Sane are way better listens than Ziggy--what's the big surprise in that? The best of them all, by a longshot, though, is Hunky Dory, which is as perfect as any Bowie album.
― sw00ds, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link
http://hometown.aol.com/sillysongbook/images/weird%20al%20bw%20autograph.jpg http://www.thirdwayblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/robert-goulet.jpg
― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Get it?
According to http://www.5years.com:
Hunky Dory recorded April 1971. Moonage Daydream/Hang On To Yourself recorded & released May 1971 (although not the album versions). "It Ain't Easy" recorded June 1971. Most of the rest of the album recorded November 1971, ie, before Hunky Dory was even released!
Although I agree the two albums have a different vibe, there are quite a lot of similarities, surely. A song like Queen Bitch could have sat happily on Ziggy. Lady Stardust wouldn't have sounded out of place on Hunky Dory. Velvet Goldmine could have gone on either. Ultimately, I think Hunky Dory has a little more depth.
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link
You're right, on reflection, they're not that different. Thing is, I like every song on "Ziggy" but I don't like every song on "Hunky Dory"
― Tom D., Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link
Fair enough!
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link
that horribly clunky dying/lying couplet
More than made up for by
I think I saw you in an ice-cream parlour Drinking milkshakes cold and long Smiling and waving and looking so fine I don't think you knew you were in this song
― ledge, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah, 5 years has an odd mix of horrible and sublime lyrics. That "earth was really dying", though, truly awful!
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link
Really tough choice, but "Moonage Daydream."
― Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link
Brutal.
I'm with the Five Years/Moonage Daydream/Lady Stardust crowd, but y'know what? Ziggy Stardust absolutely crushes if you can put aside the 500 times you've already heard it and listen as if for the first time...
― rogermexico., Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link
I voted for Lady Stardust and it was all right.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― ILX System, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
Moonage Daydream?! I usually skip that song
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link
This snippet from a Feb. 1972 interview is supposed to explain the asinine inclusion of "It Ain't Easy":
Interviewer: Could you explain a little more in-depth about the album that's coming out ... Ziggy?
Bowie: I'll try very hard...its a little difficult but it originally started as a concept album, but it kind of got broken up because I found other songs I wanted to put in the album which wouldn't have fitted into the story of Ziggy...so at the moment its a little fractured and a little fragmented...
More here.
Awful, awful song.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 6 September 2007 03:08 (seventeen years ago) link
"Suffragette City," Teh Lurker's Choice!
― rogermexico., Thursday, 6 September 2007 04:51 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Hurting 2
I don't get it, Hurting, sorry. Looking forward to the explanation!
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 6 September 2007 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link
The lurkers surprise me. I thought they'd have gone for "Starman" or maybe the title track, but it seems "Sufragette City" was their pick.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 6 September 2007 08:43 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm so happy "Five Years" placed so well. That is honestly the song that has prevented this album from falling into the oblivion of my memory.
Here he is, 1972:
― Bimble, Sunday, 9 September 2007 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Though I really do want to give a big shoutout to Moonage Daydream, thanks Alex for mentioning that one.
― Bimble, Sunday, 9 September 2007 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link
There are so many great tracks, and as such I have no problem with the huge following for "Moonage Daydream" and "Five Years". Both excellent.
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 9 September 2007 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Five years. It's almost like he's talking about punk: 1977. Good god.
― Bimble, Monday, 10 September 2007 05:32 (seventeen years ago) link
"Moonage Daydream" was the correct answer.
― W4LTER, Monday, 10 September 2007 05:35 (seventeen years ago) link
"it ain'e easy" shouldve been replaced with "suffragette city"
― Zeno, Monday, 10 September 2007 06:26 (seventeen years ago) link
I know, I'm drunk, I'll wear hangover shame tomorrow but by god Bowie has killed me.
Here's Moonage Daydream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p79JKclG-oc
And possibly more importantly, here's "My Death", the Jacques Brel cover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIzE3j84kKU
― Bimble, Monday, 17 September 2007 07:34 (seventeen years ago) link
and what's this interesting White Stripes cover of Moonage Daydream? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR6WUS4ya5M
― Bimble, Monday, 17 September 2007 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link
this is the best : "starman" with all the children boogie, the half white half black long hair and mick and david hugging each other...the harmony...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muMcWMKPEWQ&mode=related&search=
― Zeno, Monday, 17 September 2007 08:14 (seventeen years ago) link
the production on this album is quite irritating. that said, "Starman."
― Jesus Christ, Esq. (res), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link
really i think it sounds great.
i would have voted suffragette city cuz that song is super exciting.
― crackers is biters (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, the production was great. maybe the best thing about it?
― Keep The Dawgs Away (Ioannis), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link
it's visconti right? that dude is pretty much golden as far as i know
― crackers is biters (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Ken Scott and Bowie wasn't it?
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Bing Sings and Walt Disnae
― Mark G, Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Do ye Ken Scott and Bowie? Hoots!
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link
like someone said above, I feel like it sounds too thin. maybe brittle is a good word for it. somehow i find it tiring on the ears, but not because of the songwriting.
― Jesus Christ, Attorney at Law (res), Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
an a wee doch an doris afair ye gang
― Mark G, Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
How did "It Ain't Easy" not get one single vote.
It's not the best song on the record, but damn, The White Stripes have based their whole career from that one song.
― •--• --- --- •--• (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 30 January 2009 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link
it is weird as hell that no-one voted for 'it ain't easy,' but i really like the results in this poll. the top three are really obviously the top three songs on the album, but only by a hair's breadth, you know? i would have put 'five years' at #2 but that's only because i fucking LOVE that song.
yeah man. this album. i know like, low/lodger/hunky dory are probably the best bowie albums, but this is absolutely my fave. what i don't get is where the hell has it been all my life. ultra-hip sf concept-rock SPEAKS to me, man.
― marc iv, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 02:03 (fourteen years ago) link
it ain't easy is a real zero, marc...think of the songs he left off!
― iago g., Tuesday, 13 July 2010 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm not terribly surprised that it got no votes, but i am always surprised that people don't like it - or tend to be rather indifferent. i personally think Bowie does something really special with it.
here's the original(?); starts about a minute inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFWsZHaQ2Sc
Mitch Ryderhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlWEAqZS1Sc
Three Dog Nighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LEuVgmS71c
Raconteurshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ElJXtn3CGk&feature=related
― easiest lay on the White House lawn → (will), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Double P otm
― easiest lay on the White House lawn → (will), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Hang on to Yourself 2
:-(
― PappaWheelie V, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 02:45 (fourteen years ago) link
"Arnold Corns" version of Hang On is better than the lp version.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link
^^Ditto. "Hang on to Yourself" is incredible; it's the song I always play for my middle-school students on DB's birthday.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Perhaps the most appropriate thread -- sadly, Spiders bassist Trevor Bolder has lost his battle with cancer:
http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/trevor-bolder-dead-at-62/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
R.I.P...he had sideburns...
― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
R.I.P.
.... these poll results are nonsense btw. Lady Stardust was robbed.
― Michigan seems like a dream to me now (Treeship), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
Was wondering which was the most appropriate thread. RIP
― Oulipo Traces (on a Cigarette) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
Aw. Fuck cancer. RIP, awesome sidey-spidey-man.
― you may not like it now but you will (Zora), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
RIP Trev. Only one Spider left now :(
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
looking at results and reading thread with star man in mind, why people didnt vote for it, etc is a p meat summation of ilm and why it is awful
― zero content albums (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 08:04 (ten years ago) link
neat ffs neat
― zero content albums (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 08:05 (ten years ago) link
david appreciates your support
― outback bumfuc (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 08:16 (ten years ago) link
-_-
― zero content albums (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 08:27 (ten years ago) link
Did I miss the part where people talked about not voting for "Starman?" Like one guy says he didn't because other people would. Personally think it's kind of a corny song, melodically speaking.
― sink floyd (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 10:19 (ten years ago) link
Rock n roll suicide should have been the clear winner here.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 10:28 (ten years ago) link
the Lady was kinda robbed.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:53 (ten years ago) link
yeah that would have been my second choice. best opening verse for sure.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:08 (ten years ago) link
when i was first getting into music like 30 years ago, it seemed like this was the canonical david bowie album, the one that showed up on all the lists etc. now it feels like there isn't really a canonical best bowie album, like everyone has their personal favorites. am i wrong? or is this still generally considered the big bowie album/the one you tell people to start with/etc?
― na (NA), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:14 (two years ago) link
it's a fun album but if personally i'm in a bowie mood it's rarely the one i put on
― na (NA), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:15 (two years ago) link
That's about right. Ziggy was more readily available in the late '80s, I guess?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:19 (two years ago) link
I recognize it as an objectively spectacular, great album - but subjectively, there are loads of Bowie albums which speak to me way more & I'm much more prone to want to listen to.
― Valentijn, Friday, 14 October 2022 14:27 (two years ago) link
OTM. Aladdin Sane = best glam-era Bowie for me, but Ziggy makes/made sense as the consensus classic. Would have voted "Soul Love" here...
― J. Sam, Friday, 14 October 2022 14:38 (two years ago) link
back when it was important to define bowie as a rock musician first and foremost, it made sense that this was the consensus pick
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:45 (two years ago) link
^^^ this
Low, Heroes, Lodger were reissued in 1983 but were out of print iirc by the time Ziggy started appearing in Rolling Stone lists.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:51 (two years ago) link