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well it wasn't the first or only tune to sample old kids TV but i guess it was the biggest hit (xpost)

May '93 to May '94 was my year off from dance music. I spent most of it listening to Pearl Jam, STP< Soundgarden and Senser. It didn't take much to get me into Jungle from Autumn '94 onwards but it wasn't until the following Summer that I started to like House and heard stuff like 'Acperience' and 'Higher State Of Consciousness' and even 'Strings Of Life' for the first time (shockah)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:40 (twenty years ago) link

I still don't really understand, dog latin. Why is big beat more 'serious' than ragga jungle or italo house? And if you want really humourless 'serious' stuff then hello - Detroit techno?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:42 (twenty years ago) link

i hit the uk in june after 12 months overland from australia thru s.e asia india etc. i went to nottinghill carnival for the first time and i saw and indulged with people DANCING to JUNGLE. i heard gilles p drop "inner city life". i bought d'n'b selection 2. best year evah.

gaz (gaz), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:47 (twenty years ago) link

and fuck me MATOS is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!!

gaz (gaz), Friday, 3 September 2004 08:53 (twenty years ago) link

By 94 the one-music-all-night-long monoculture was firmly established in clubland, which seemed to me like a massive disappointment – the balearic “if it sounds good we’ll play it” /"it’s all just dance music” ethos was truly dead (though I may be over-romanticising that anyway). Perhaps that’s what dog latin means – the (relative) disappearance of playfulness.

Wasn’t 94 also the start of the rise of handbag/glam house, the superstar dj and the return of dresscode elitism?

Philter, Friday, 3 September 2004 09:00 (twenty years ago) link

I still don't really understand, dog latin. Why is big beat more 'serious' than ragga jungle or italo house? And if you want really humourless 'serious' stuff then hello - Detroit techno?

I don't really remember Detroit Techno making that big of a commercial impact - it stayed underground. I guess Big Beat was a bit silly but it was featured in Q and Select and other supposedly "proper" music mags whereas Black Box wasn't. I'm just saying that suddenly dance was recognised as "proper" music as opposed to throwaway rubbish that was beneath song-based pop and rock.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:03 (twenty years ago) link

i think that still went on - i went to Metalheadz in '96 and Goldie played Atmosfear's 'Dancin' In Outer Space' and other things you wouldn't expect - it was probably even more jazzier when they were at the Blue Note. Norman Cook and the Chemical Brothers retained Balearic Spirit at BBB and the Social, as another example - taking fun seriously seemed the modus operandi.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:05 (twenty years ago) link

philter described it best i think.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:05 (twenty years ago) link

although "thats how it is", "east" were fighting against this tendency Philter - in London at least. You had the notion of freestyle djs emerging in the chemical bros, the big chill, the rumpus rooms etc etc.

gaz (gaz), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:06 (twenty years ago) link

also i couldn't have imagined dance music really being discussed in something like The Guide or whatever pre-1994. Select had that dance section at the beginning of their magazine - that was such a neat idea. Bring back Select I say.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:07 (twenty years ago) link

doglatin you are sounding a lot like Swells when he was banging on playlouder last year about how the seriousness ruined dance music. he even mentioned Black Box as well!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:07 (twenty years ago) link

Death of playfulness, end of the party, certainly.

I think two meanings of 'serious' are getting mixed up a bit here though. I would dispute that idea that dance music was not taken seriously by the music press until 1994.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:09 (twenty years ago) link

Something about this sounds Geirish.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:10 (twenty years ago) link

But I should preface that by pointing out that I never think before I post.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:10 (twenty years ago) link

Seriously - I bought a fair few techno and breakbeat records in the late 80s and early 90s on the back of NME write ups.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:10 (twenty years ago) link

how old were you in 94 dog latin?

gaz (gaz), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:12 (twenty years ago) link

(NB. I'm pretty sure none of those write ups were by Steven Wells)

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:12 (twenty years ago) link

here's that thread: pointing and laughing at dance music part 4912

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:16 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I was overgeneralising wildly and you're right to say that lots of messing with genre barriers was still going on (and it being big beat's m.o.) - though maybe it was a london ting: at the time I was (and still am) in Sheffield and it all just seemed so much more regimented than 2-3 years before. No place for amateurs (which ties in with stevem's "taking fun seriously" point).

Philter, Friday, 3 September 2004 09:18 (twenty years ago) link

re: I'm just saying that suddenly dance was recognised as "proper" music as opposed to throwaway rubbish that was beneath song-based pop and rock.

This was manifested with Melody Maker putting Underworld on the front cover and introducing an expanded dance section in early 1994. They had a big issue on electronic/ dance music.

Indeeed this proved so successful that a year later in Spring 1995, Muzik magazine was launched by IPC Media.

[In 1993, Melody Maker's dance music coverage was limited - and they were relatively slow on the uptaking of Brit Progressive House Scene which can be traced back to early Summer 1992 and Mixmag]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:19 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, well MM had been hopeless for dance music, but that was just MM's problem

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:22 (twenty years ago) link

sim r to thread!

gaz (gaz), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:25 (twenty years ago) link

I'm sure he'd agree.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:29 (twenty years ago) link

i was 13/14 in 1994 so maybe i'm talking bull. but i can't think of that many big-selling dance albums (like Jilted or Snivilisation) coming out before 1994. Blue Lines maybe? Even Prodigy Experience didn't sell too good and was seen as one-hit-wonder kind of stuff.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:30 (twenty years ago) link

'Ex:El' was a top ten album in 1991 although it's remit went beyond filling dancefloors obviously (and being one of the first dance albums to feature collabs with 'indie' vocalists gave it a commercial boost). Other than that 'white techno-orientated' dance/electronic did not sell so well at that point, but then there were hardly any actual albums of that stuff.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:32 (twenty years ago) link

Soul II Soul's first two albums probably sold more than 'Blue Lines' also.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:33 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think their being a relative lack of huge albums (or even good ones) means it wasn't serious. Dance is a singles-led genre. That's not necessarily equivalent with it being tacky and one hit wonderish.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:35 (twenty years ago) link

UR to thread

gaz (gaz), Friday, 3 September 2004 10:06 (twenty years ago) link

actually i'm really drunk...what was i arguing against again?

gaz (gaz), Friday, 3 September 2004 10:06 (twenty years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Wasn't "a stable reference" by Labradford from 1995..? The "julius" 7" was from 1994 although i didn't discover Labradford until late 1995.

95% percent of my purchases from 1994 were from 1994 because there was so much good stuff coming out, whereas in the previous years i was buying a lot of old hardcore, metal and rap i'd previously missed out on.

Favorites from 1994 :

Alloy-paper thin front.ep.

Born Against/Man Is Teh Bastard-split 8".

Kyuss-welcome to sky valley.lp.

Lady Of Rage-afro puffs.12".

Nas-illmatic.lp.

O.C-word..life.lp.

Drive Like Jehu-yank crime.lp.

Indian Summer-7".

Swing Kids-7".

Universal Order Of Armageddon-12".

Universal Order Of Armageddon- lp on Kill Rock Stars.

Craig Mack etc-flava in ya remix.12".

Craig Mack-get down.12".

Notorious BIG-ready to die.lp.

Unwound-m.k ultra/totality.7".

Unwound-new plastic ideas.lp.

Unwound- 7" on Troubleman Records.

Beatnuts-street level.lp.

Gang Starr-hard to earn.lp.

Organized Konfusion-stress..lp.

Method Man-tical.lp.

Gravediggaz-6 feet deep.lp.

Soundgarden-superunknown.lp.

Outkast-southernplayalisticadillacmuzik.lp.

Ellis, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Craig Mack etc-flava in ya remix.12".

Craig Mack-get down.12".

Notorious BIG-ready to die.lp.

I forget this stuff all came out in 1994. I didn't really start hearing Bad Boy stuff until 1997 or so.

Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link

i really do think this was the best year for music in my lifetime so far. if i had to name a list of ten favorite albums from the 90s, i could probably do all 94 and not feel remotely guilty. hell, singles too.

strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Apart from those 2 12"s and "making moves with puff" the Craig Mack album on Bad Boy was pretty lame. He put out some splendid 12"s from 1999 to 2001, though. I always liked his sloppy-Redman style.

Ellis, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link

personally, of course, it was absolute horrid and magical all at once, as being 16 tends to be.

strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Bowie, Devo, Masonna, Boredoms, Royal Trux

Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link

oh, and HARRY PUSSY!

Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

1994, 1995 and 1996 were great personal years for me. The last years of freedom before i had to deal with adult responsibilities and work out ways to make money.

That Bone Thugs and Harmony ep that i forget the name of that came out in 1994 was also great. "Foe da love of money" with that ridiculous Eazy E verse was a personal favorite.

Ellis, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

That year seemed especially exciting and full of promise. Rockers were listening to techno and the fresh wave of dub reissues. Experimentation was catching on, metal, dub, hip-hop and global ethnic music were all bed swapping. Based on just one single I felt like Tricky would be the start of a new breed of pop stars. This was before he and Goldie were tussling in a love triangle over Björk, already dissolving from public consciousness, other than as great names for pocket puppies.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 18 September 2008 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Even stodgy The Wire magazine seemed to have a bit more whimsical spring in its step that year.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 18 September 2008 13:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Stuck in traffic on 35W going toward Edina to work in a Wal-Mart portrait studio - "All I Wanna Do" by Sheryl Crow

Getting in high in some dudes' two-story apartment, playing that race car game on Nintendo, Leineys staying cold on the stoop outside - "Black No. 1" by Type O Negative

Buying gas at that store with the big fiberglass trout, off 35 a few miles above Albert Lea, on my way back for a weekend visit to Mizzou - "Mannequin Shop" by Paul Westerberg

Pulling up into the parking lot of Perkins off Riverside - "Seether" by Veruca Salt

Driving back home from the Depot after eight miserable hours of scanning vodka and Pig's Eye - "Interstate Love Song" by Stone Temple Pilots

Hanging out in Macalester lesbians' apartment, deciding if I want to adopt their cat - "Leaving Las Vegas" by Sheryl Crow

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 18 September 2008 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember thinking at the time that 94 was a great year for music. Some albums I loved (and still enjoy to varied degrees) were The Downward Spiral, Music For the Jilted Generation, Senser's Stacked Up and Troublegum. It was the year I turned 16.

chap, Thursday, 18 September 2008 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link

My 1994 in singles, alphabetically:

alex party - saturday night party (read my lips)
artemisia - bits & pieces
atlantic ocean - waterfall
beck - loser
blue bamboo - a b c & d
blur - end of a century / girls & boys
bruce springsteen - streets of philadelphia
carleen anderson - nervous breakdown
counting crows - mr. jones
crystal waters - 100% pure love / ghetto day
dj shadow - lost and found
doop - doop
elastica - connection
elevator - shinny
elvis costello - sulky girl
fruit - the queen of old compton street
the grid - swamp thing
hed boys - girls and boys
jah wobble's invaders of the heart - the sun does rise
jx - son of a gun
kristine w - feel what you want
kristin hersh - your ghost
kylie minogue - confide in me
leena conquest - boundaries
loveland - let the music lift you up
mary j. blige - be happy
m beat/general levy - incredible
michelle gayle - sweetness
morrissey - the more you ignore me, the closer i get / hold onto your friends
motiv 8 - rockin' for myself
moving melodies (ethics) - la luna (to the beat of the drum)
m people - renaissance
mr. roy - something about you
neil young - philadelphia
nush - u girls
oasis - whatever / live forever / supersonic
omar - outside
the o.t. quartet - hold that sucker down
paul weller - hung up
pizzaman - trippin' on sunshine
portishead - sour times / numb
the pretenders - i'll stand by you / 977 / night in my veins
primal scream - rocks
prince - the most beautiful girl in the world
the prodigy - no good (start the dance)
r.e.m. - what's the frequency, kenneth
r.kelly - she's got that vibe
sister bliss - life's a bitch (can't get a man, can't get a job)
sonic youth - superstar
suede - stay together / we are the pigs / the wild ones
t-empo - saturday night sunday morning
tindersticks - kathleen
transglobal underground - taal zaman / protean
tricky - aftermath
warren g/nate dogg - regulate
whigfield - saturday night
youssou n'dour/neneh cherry - 7 seconds

mike t-diva, Thursday, 18 September 2008 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link

I forgot Dummy came out in 94! One of my favourite albums to this day.

chap, Thursday, 18 September 2008 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

don't forget subliminal cuts mike ;)

They're a '90s odd couple. And an odds-on choice for laughs. (blueski), Thursday, 18 September 2008 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Didn't hear that one until late December, when Pete Tong played it on his year-end round-up.... good old Patrick Prins, whatever happened to him...

mike t-diva, Thursday, 18 September 2008 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Fuck me, 20 years ago.

Lush, Sloan, Belly, Pure, 54-40, Beastie Boys, Jeff Buckley, Hole, Liz Phair, Tori Amos, Blur, The Veldt, Public Enemy, the 32 Short Films About Glenn Gould soundtrack, the Trois Couleurs Bleu and Rouge soundtracks. One of my favourite albums from this year is by Stereolab but I had no idea who they were in '94, didn't get hip to them until '97 or so. Loved a lot of other stuff from this year, though Kurt's death means I have a very soft spot for Eugenius and felt that & Sloan's albums the closest to me as comforts (I'm just a month older than Kurt and it was very personal at the time...some in my social circle were far more affected than others, and things slowly started to change for me then).

agincourtgirl, Friday, 17 January 2014 11:29 (ten years ago) link

LOL, it is so funny to read mine own posts from 2001, basically to see the self-censoring revision of the past in operation. And I understand why then-me was doing it, to justify her tastes and dislikes of that point in time. And how she was utterly and totally belied, as a few months ago, I found a box of cassettes in storage at my Mum's house, dating from that exact period. And though yes, it's true, I did listen to all the things I described myself loving in 1994, and the changes in my tastes I described *did* happen, it is not the whole story. I omitted all sorts of music that didn't fit with the narrative (industrial music taped off my Goth housemate, loads of techno from my Britishes boyfriend, other things I daren't even mention, oh dear, Bhangra and "ethno-beats" or whatevs it inspired that I wince at the cultural appropriation of, now) but was definitely in that box of cassettes from the mid-90s, and well worn with play.

Can I blame acid not just for changing my tastes, but also conveniently erasing my memory of the music that didn't fit the narrative of Who I Thought I Was at age 30? It wasn't acid that changed my tastes. It was ageing, and the cultural conservatism that "I'm a grown up now, honest" brings. 1994 is also the year I was kicked out of a mod band for liking "stuff that sounds like A Flock Of Seagulls" (default insult for anything with a drum machine.) Memories are unreliable, and always more about "who you believe yourself to have been" rather than "the person you were."

I dunno. 1992 was "my year" so 2012 was the year of "OMG, I can NOT believe this is 20 years old!!!!" so I guess I'm going to be used to the 20-year anniversaries that 2014 brings.

But LOL and RMDE and KMT and SMH and 30-year old me. God, you were such a snob. (and oh god, will 50 year old me kiss their teeth at now-me?)

you're still in love with me and you don't know why (Branwell Bell), Friday, 17 January 2014 11:38 (ten years ago) link

I discovered Stereolab in 1993, because I remember a friend playing them at my leaving do (and posting me tapes of all their albums through 1994) but I seem to have conveniently forgotten that. I was obsessed - OBSESSED - with New Order during this period, because I'd had this whole series of delusions based around Bernard Sumner and "Barneywaves" controlling my thoughts when I was on the medication I was on, 92-94. I'm kind of astonished at my ability to forget these things. It's not like I abruptly stopped listening to Hole and Lush and stuff like that, either.

I'm really, really glad I found that box of cassettes last autumn. Because it's kind of a relief to call bullshit on the person I used to portray myself as being.

you're still in love with me and you don't know why (Branwell Bell), Friday, 17 January 2014 11:44 (ten years ago) link

Fuck me, 20 years ago.

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