Malcolm McLaren RIP

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Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

ny times gettin' back into its circa 1893 anti-Irish thang

tylerw, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway, RIP -- dude was a character!

tylerw, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Nice obit and Top 5 and an old interview, from Popjustice: http://www.popjustice.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4628&Itemid=206

piscesx, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Love the 12" mix of Madame Butterfly...

Thought I was the only one on the planet who was a fan of "Fans!"

RIP Malcolm, you provacateur you.

I turn it up when I hear the banjo (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

No way, "Fans" is total classic. That "Madame Butterfly" interpretation was mind-blowing when I first heard it and seems no less now.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link

RIP Malcolm.

dad a, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Was hoping this was a put-on. RIP

A Century Of Elvin (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Last time I was up in Manchester I was singing Fans' praises with PiscesX after a chance encounter in the Cornerhouse as it goes...

Doran, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

This is why I love ILX. No one in my real life likes (or has even heard) "Fans."

I turn it up when I hear the banjo (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i like it too! let's form a fan club.

scott seward, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

@jesshopp I never regarded Malcolm McLaren as anything other than the creepy svengali coaxing 14yo Annabella Lwin's nudity on BowWowWow covers. Sors.

14yo me supported him on this issue tbqh

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

well, i liked it when it came out a bunch. can't say i've heard it much since.

scott seward, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

"14yo me supported him on this issue tbqh"

OTM! same here. i was totally in love.

scott seward, Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Can't stop LOLing at 'repugnant appearance + Irish background'

Fucking magnets, how do they work? (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw Bow Wow Wow in a club in the early 80s, and Annabella actually came out of the dressing room after the gig and played pinball! She really was remarkably beautiful.

I turn it up when I hear the banjo (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

She was stunning. Even now, she's still quite attractive.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

This is why I love ILX. No one in my real life likes (or has even heard) "Fans."

Doubt anyone anyone knows him in my real life. Let alone knows Fans.

This sucks royally. Yes, he was a jerk, but one talented motherfucking jerk. RIP, dude.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I testified in court against him a few years ago. He was one big visionnary asshole.

J4mi3 H4rl3y (Snowballing), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

You shouldn't laugh but that is a pretty funny post.

Doran, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link

The NY Times clarified their statement somewhat. It now reads:

"The band was fronted by John Lydon, whose repugnant appearance and Irish background inclined Mr. McLaren (as he stated in the documentary “The Great Rock ‘n’ Roll Swindle”) to saddle him with the pejorative stage name Johnny Rotten."

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

RIP

jessica hopper is a prude. she seems to derive a considerable portion of her identity from being offended by things that are, in the scheme of things, very innocuous.

so, she's sort of the anti-malcolm mclaren i suppose.

not to say this guy wasn't kind of a dubious psued. but he was a dubious psued that made some surprisingly good music.

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

thanks for weighing in amateurist.

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

lol for sum reason i got jess hopper and jessica harvell confused for a sec there

history mayne, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Jessica Harvell!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Way hotter than Jessica Hopper IMO.

repugnant appearance, Irish background, not an animal (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

It's kind of pretentious to be offended on behalf of someone who's no longer offended about how a dead person treated them.

show us on the doll where the hotdish was served (suzy), Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

As it says:

Statement from Johnny Rotten about Malcolm Mclaren "For me Malc was always entertaining, and I hope you (cont) http://tl.gd/ppp3e

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Misread "cont" as something else there for a second...

Convenience Fish (snoball), Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

stupid cont

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

In the summer of 1983, as a 12YO, I found the lack of pop music on Norwegian radio frustrating, and ended up listening to Radio Lux on a bad radio. Surely, this was 20 years after Lux's golden age, but for me, 1983 is the golden year of Lux, and also one golden year of British hitlist pop. I ended up listening to it a lot that summer and autumn.

What does this have to do with Malcom McLaren? Well, "Double Dutch" was being played on constant rotation on Lux that summer, and this strange song is largely what I connect with McLaren. Surely, I know his part in Sex Pistols, but never liked them, so for me it's more about his own work. Which was interesting in its own way with its combination of modern beats and electronics together with American square dance.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

r u confusing "Double Dutch" with "Buffalo Gals"?

✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

RIP. I will stan for "Madame Butterfly" any day of the week.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 8 April 2010 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link

all the "he was an asshole, you know" commentary seems sort of point-missing to me. of course he way. who would think otherwise?

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 April 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

of course he WAS, i mean.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 8 April 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

RIP

p-dog, Thursday, 8 April 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Also there's a time and place thing going on here. He may well have been a bit of a dick on occasion but, y'know, get a grip. No man's an island etc.

Doran, Thursday, 8 April 2010 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

McLaren is classic for Duck Rock and Buffalo Gals and dud for the way he mismanaged the Pistols finances.

booty claps and harp solos (leavethecapital), Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Tom Ewing, hero:

RIP Malcolm McLaren. Best troll ever.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link

"of course he WAS, i mean."
From what little I know about the guy, he reveled in being a scoundrel, so it seems weirdly appropriate to point out his greatest hits of scoundrelry as tribute, if nothing else. To this day I have no idea what his angle was with chiptunes. Truly a master player.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

RIP Talcy Malcy. Playing Bow Wow Wow and Adam and the Ants just cos.

Duke Newsom (DavidM), Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Tributes coming in from
Vivienne Westwood: http://www.nme.com/news/malcolm-mclaren/50581
Wobble: http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/04/09/sex-pistols-manager-malcolm-mclaren-dies-115875-22172162/

This is getting really sad now actually. I mean in the old fashioned sense :(

piscesx, Thursday, 8 April 2010 23:54 (fourteen years ago) link

This is amazing, although I am biased: http://imomus.com/mclarencomplete.html

show us on the doll where the hotdish was served (suzy), Friday, 9 April 2010 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Rip and...

"Fronted by John Lydon — whose repugnant appearance and Irish background earned him the stage name Johnny Rotten"

...wooooah!

Fucking hell.

Venga, Friday, 9 April 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Obviously this is sad for all the reasons mentioned above, but whenever someone like Malc or Tony Wilson dies it does sort of highlight how people like that ("mavericks," for want of a better word) seem to give the music industry an extremely wide berth at the present time. Perhaps it's because there barely is any industry to speak of anymore. Unless I'm missing something/someone?

Position Position, Friday, 9 April 2010 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Gotta say that was a pretty classy quote from Mr. Lydon considering the battles he had with Malcolm.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 9 April 2010 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Wasn't he to blame for the Pistols breaking up?

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 9 April 2010 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Pistols broke themselves up, but McLaren took all the money (through publishing rights, etc).

Johnny Fever, Friday, 9 April 2010 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link

And the New York Dolls as well?

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 9 April 2010 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link

"time heals i wounds" is of course the bad brains version of "time heals all wounds"

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 16 April 2010 05:56 (fourteen years ago) link

"Momus says nowt but his prayers, y'knaa"

Mark G, Friday, 16 April 2010 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Funeral was today.

Guess who: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47694000/jpg/_47694434_adamant_getty226282.jpg

Mark G, Thursday, 22 April 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Adam Ant - look'n like a hobo

...as if he needed the pic on his hat

beat boy damager, power 2 the people (Its all about face), Thursday, 22 April 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I've must have seen a dozen WDYLL threads, and I'll be damned if there's a man or woman amongst us who can call Adam fucking Ant out for looking like a hobo.

Soukesian, Thursday, 22 April 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

If only i knew what a WDYLL thread was ?

Just sayin prince charming seems a lifetime ago. Anyone got a full frontal of the pic to see how the head matches the rest of the ensemble ?

or a photostream of the funeral/procession. It sounded fittingly grand and irreverently spectacular.

beat boy damager, power 2 the people (Its all about face), Thursday, 22 April 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

he looks good for his age, tho.

regarding mclaren being some sort of shady, untrustworthy character in business deals...

what did he actually do that was so bad? aside from kicking adam ant out of his own band. or is this just a rep he played up himself?

max arrrrrgh, Sunday, 25 April 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

everyone seems to have behaved brilliantly over this, it seems to have brought out the best in all his ex friends ex enemies ex wives and whoever else. no one's had a bad word to say.

even NME has got it right, their best cover in *years*

― piscesx, Friday, 16 April 2010 06:01 (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ha. will this image change every week now?

max arrrrrgh, Sunday, 25 April 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

ah brilliant! i hope so. wonder why it does/ did that? how very 21st century.

piscesx, Sunday, 25 April 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Funeral sounds a laugh anyway
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/malcolm-mclaren-funeral-sean-ohagan

sonofstan, Sunday, 25 April 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

hmmm.....

Mark G, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 07:19 (fourteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

RIP

anyone else at this point in malcolm mclaren and the bootzilla orchestra's "call a wave" hear "women of ireland", e.g. this kind of bit?

conrad, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:12 (one month ago) link


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