Malcolm McLaren RIP

"14yo me supported him on this issue tbqh"

OTM! same here. i was totally in love.

Can't stop LOLing at 'repugnant appearance + Irish background'

I saw Bow Wow Wow in a club in the early 80s, and Annabella actually came out of the dressing room after the gig and played pinball! She really was remarkably beautiful.

She was stunning. Even now, she's still quite attractive.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/143/l_68546595c135440fb513e5077c6a863d.jpg

This is why I love ILX. No one in my real life likes (or has even heard) "Fans."

Doubt anyone anyone knows him in my real life. Let alone knows Fans.

This sucks royally. Yes, he was a jerk, but one talented motherfucking jerk. RIP, dude.

I testified in court against him a few years ago. He was one big visionnary asshole.

You shouldn't laugh but that is a pretty funny post.

The NY Times clarified their statement somewhat. It now reads:

"The band was fronted by John Lydon, whose repugnant appearance and Irish background inclined Mr. McLaren (as he stated in the documentary “The Great Rock ‘n’ Roll Swindle”) to saddle him with the pejorative stage name Johnny Rotten."

RIP

jessica hopper is a prude. she seems to derive a considerable portion of her identity from being offended by things that are, in the scheme of things, very innocuous.

so, she's sort of the anti-malcolm mclaren i suppose.

not to say this guy wasn't kind of a dubious psued. but he was a dubious psued that made some surprisingly good music.

thanks for weighing in amateurist.

lol for sum reason i got jess hopper and jessica harvell confused for a sec there

Jessica Harvell!

Way hotter than Jessica Hopper IMO.

It's kind of pretentious to be offended on behalf of someone who's no longer offended about how a dead person treated them.

As it says:

Statement from Johnny Rotten about Malcolm Mclaren "For me Malc was always entertaining, and I hope you (cont) http://tl.gd/ppp3e

Misread "cont" as something else there for a second...

stupid cont

In the summer of 1983, as a 12YO, I found the lack of pop music on Norwegian radio frustrating, and ended up listening to Radio Lux on a bad radio. Surely, this was 20 years after Lux's golden age, but for me, 1983 is the golden year of Lux, and also one golden year of British hitlist pop. I ended up listening to it a lot that summer and autumn.

What does this have to do with Malcom McLaren? Well, "Double Dutch" was being played on constant rotation on Lux that summer, and this strange song is largely what I connect with McLaren. Surely, I know his part in Sex Pistols, but never liked them, so for me it's more about his own work. Which was interesting in its own way with its combination of modern beats and electronics together with American square dance.

r u confusing "Double Dutch" with "Buffalo Gals"?

RIP. I will stan for "Madame Butterfly" any day of the week.

all the "he was an asshole, you know" commentary seems sort of point-missing to me. of course he way. who would think otherwise?

of course he WAS, i mean.

RIP

Also there's a time and place thing going on here. He may well have been a bit of a dick on occasion but, y'know, get a grip. No man's an island etc.

McLaren is classic for Duck Rock and Buffalo Gals and dud for the way he mismanaged the Pistols finances.

Tom Ewing, hero:

RIP Malcolm McLaren. Best troll ever.

"of course he WAS, i mean."
From what little I know about the guy, he reveled in being a scoundrel, so it seems weirdly appropriate to point out his greatest hits of scoundrelry as tribute, if nothing else. To this day I have no idea what his angle was with chiptunes. Truly a master player.

RIP Talcy Malcy. Playing Bow Wow Wow and Adam and the Ants just cos.

Tributes coming in from
Vivienne Westwood: http://www.nme.com/news/malcolm-mclaren/50581
Wobble: http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2010/04/09/sex-pistols-manager-malcolm-mclaren-dies-115875-22172162/

This is getting really sad now actually. I mean in the old fashioned sense :(

This is amazing, although I am biased: http://imomus.com/mclarencomplete.html

Rip and...

"Fronted by John Lydon — whose repugnant appearance and Irish background earned him the stage name Johnny Rotten"

...wooooah!

Fucking hell.

Obviously this is sad for all the reasons mentioned above, but whenever someone like Malc or Tony Wilson dies it does sort of highlight how people like that ("mavericks," for want of a better word) seem to give the music industry an extremely wide berth at the present time. Perhaps it's because there barely is any industry to speak of anymore. Unless I'm missing something/someone?

Gotta say that was a pretty classy quote from Mr. Lydon considering the battles he had with Malcolm.

Wasn't he to blame for the Pistols breaking up?

Pistols broke themselves up, but McLaren took all the money (through publishing rights, etc).

And the New York Dolls as well?

His wiki entry is pretty thorough: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_mclaren

The whole um.. 'Chicken' magazine episode is the real clincher for anyone looking for reasons to diss him but i mean.. let's not go into THAT.
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link?

farewell, you culturally significant piece of shit.

At about midnight last night I was skimming the obits and news online and thought 'That's really nice that they've got a Tim Westwood tribute on DiS. Good on them for thinking of the McLaren/hip hop connection.'

It was literally two hours before I realised that the quote was from Vivienne Westwood not Tim.

"Dis is well dark news innit bruv? Brah Malcy will be well missed, brap brap."

Evidence of the 'Chicken' episode seems to be thin on the ground because it never actually existed. But I seem to remember reading about the proposal in Smash Hits at the time. It was going to be a p0rn mag for kids basically.

RIP

RIP Malc :(

Good riddance and fuck off. </punk spirit>

At his funeral, I reckon the pallbearers should be dressed in bondage trousers

the guardian's piece didn't go much beyond 'sex pistols manager'. bigger obit to follow, no doubt.

looking at youtube i'd forgotten the forays into world music and square dancing. his championing of chip tunes didn't come to much.

full obit now up:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/apr/09/malcolm-mclaren-obituary

who cares if he was a dick. did way more good than harm. totally interesting dude rip.

From Rip It Up and Start Again:

Vermorel believes McLaren's master scheme was "to create a child porn scandal implicating as many people as he could." Not just EMI, who was financing Chicken, but the BBC, too.A documentary crew headed by Alan Yentob had been following McLaren around for a program on the marketing of Bow Wow Wow. Partly impelled by his usual lust for maximum media mayhem, McLaren also wanted to make a serious polemical point, exposing pop music as porn for children...and pop as porn using children to titillate adults.

With typical ruthlessness, McLaren, in his eagerness to embarrass the music and media establishment, showed no concern whatsoever about the youngsters (Annabella and the other teenage models) or old friends (Vermorel) who would have been embroiled in the scandal. When he went to remonstrate with McLaren, says Vermorel, "alcolm just laughed and said, 'You should be telling all this to the judge! When the shit hits the fan, I'll be in South America.' So I told EMI what was going on. And they tld Yentob, and he freaked out, and those tapes have been in the BBC vault ever since."

...Chickennever hatched. According to Vermorel, the only physical evidence of Chicken's existence was the rate card for advertising in the magazine." But Bow Wow Wow's second release, Your Cassette Pet, continued to expolit the underage-sex angle.

RIP

anyone else at this point in malcolm mclaren and the bootzilla orchestra's "call a wave" hear "women of ireland", e.g. this kind of bit?