MTV - classic or dud?

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I have no will power when it comes to the Real World or Road Rules. I watch them religiously. The same was true when Jackass was in production, but I find Punk'd only mildly entertaining and don't go out of my way to watch it.

Other than that, DUD.

Paul Cox (paul cox), Sunday, 15 June 2003 05:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Andale andale mami EI EI) UH OH!

Francis Watlington, Sunday, 15 June 2003 05:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dud. Simply for keeping that atrocious 1980's logo the whole time.

Cub, Sunday, 15 June 2003 05:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

horrible horrible Groundhog Day television. every evening is nothing but Jackass, osbornes and Dirty Sanchez and none of it seems remotely funny anymore (the 1000th time you see it). the marginalisation and regimentation of the channel in Europe really killed it in some way, and recent spin-offs like MTV2 (which would be okay if 1) they stopped being so biased to american heavy rock and 2) didnt exist in the first place considering the remit of this channel is pretty much what MTV itself was doing in the early 90s and should continue to do), MTV Base and MTV Dance (neither of which truly reflecting the genres as comprehensively as they could...and why exactly do they get these names as if the consensus is that MTV2 is just MTV Indieorheavyrock?)

no more leftfield animation. no more unattractive presenters who were actually there because they loved music/music video. no more creative initiatives designed to inspire/enlighten the viewer, only creative initiatives to make money (Blingo or whatever). hell i wouldn't mind if they actually promised to play at least 6 music videos an hour but they don't even do that.

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

and nice to see you again Nordicskillz!

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ukrainian TV is also brilliant. -- mark s

So you don't watch that either, ha!

(Okeh, that was more than two years ago anyway)

Right now, my daughter's glued to the telly, watching the MTV Movie Awards. On MTV Nordic. On the cable. And it's due to the children occasionally switching it on that I get to see/hear any MTV at all, basically. ...Dud-o-drome, from what I've seen.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 15 June 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeh the Movie Awards weren't too hot this year. lamer than usual speeches, dull interplay between Timberlake and Michael-Scott. i suppose the only real highlight was TATU

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

sorry, answering this would be like answering E-mail: Classic Or Dud? It's impossible to imagine what the world would be like otherwise, it's provided me with a lot of good times and also hinted at the downfall of civilization (but doesn't EVERYTHING?). It's easier to answer if we're just talking about the network's current programming (in which case it's a dud except for All Things Rock). But if we're talking about music videos: classic or dud? then I just can't say.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

i think our own scott seward nailed it best when he said (paraphrase): mtv's trump card has always been that, despite the acres and acres of bad programming, it makes you feel like if you're not glued to it constantly you're gonna miss something great.

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

*does not feel like he's gonna miss something great*
*wonders 'bout that nail of scott seward's*

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
This sounds awful. I'm sorry, America.

http://img201.exs.cx/img201/1826/mtv24oh.jpg

Inside the giant factory of cool known as MTV headquarters, a crew of hip twentysomethings has been hard at work creating a two-headed monster. This beast wants to be man's new best friend.

On Sunday, during the Super Bowl halftime, MTV2 is relaunching with a new focus on 12-24 year-old guys - and a new logo.

"What MTV2 is, while a departure from MTV, is really harkening back to the early days of MTV," says Tina Exarhos, executive vice president of marketing.

The network recognizes that their young-guy demographic are, as Cohn says, "operating on multiple platforms" - not just television, but the Web and video games - sometimes simultaneously. For example, after the show "Discover & Download" premiered with the Senegal-born R&B singer Akon, thousands of downloads immediately followed.

The channel is renewing a tradition of unveiling a new video every Tuesday, and running it at least 16 times that day. The first premiere will be Green Day's next single.

"We want Green Day to be a kind of house band for MTV2, the way people feel about MTV being the Eminem Network," says Tom Calderon, executive vice president of talent and music.

If you live or work in New York area, then you may have seen ads running for the past month featuring two-headed dogs and lines such as "GOES COMMANDO," although the spelling of the words looks more like GO ES COMM AN DO. These teaser campaign gave no clue as to what they meant, but referred the curious to a website featuring a "trick du jour" and promoting visitors to "sniff around."

The logo redesign began about nine months ago when MTV Networks decided to give MTV2 a new identity to differentiate it from MTV. MTV2 also made a large Internet buy on gaming Web sites and handed out two-headed dog hats, t-shirts, and sweatshirts in the New York area.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Why can't they just play videos non-stop 24 hours a day with no commercials? VH-1 Classic does it!

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link

James, you're right that it does sound awful, but it will at least be an improvement over what MTV2 is right now.

Mickey (modestmickey), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:54 (nineteen years ago) link

So that's what the two headed dog business is all about. Pity it isn't something more interesting.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link

"Inside the giant factory of cool known as MTV headquarters"

oh, so they make refrigerators!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 4 February 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

stevem OTM

1000% dud these days. It's actually sad how it really doesn't have ANY redeeming qualities left. Cynicism aside, it really did used to.

balh, Friday, 4 February 2005 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I remember watching MTV2 back in 98 or 99, and it was fucking awesome. I still remember seeing the video for "I Left My Wallet in El Segundo," followed by something from the Sonic Youth "A Thousand Leaves" album, and then something else really great that I can't remember, and thinking "This is more what MTV used to be like." Of course, like MTV, MTV2's gradually gotten worse as well.

I do swear that MTV was actually pretty good once -- I don't think it's just because I'm older. Not only was the music better (especially with shows like AMP and 120 minutes) but even the early Real World casts were much more interesting than the ones now.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 4 February 2005 06:12 (nineteen years ago) link

MTV in 1995 is my favorite channel ever. MTV in 2005 is my least favorite channel ever.

billstevejim, Friday, 4 February 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Er, wot does the M in MTV stand for these days?!!?! Is it "Music", or "Maaaaaaad!!!!"!??!?!?!

Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Friday, 4 February 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link

The channel is renewing a tradition of unveiling a new video every Tuesday, and running it at least 16 times that day. The first premiere will be Green Day's next single.

eurgh what a horrible idea. no video should be played that much in one day, esp. not when it's by fucking Green Day

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Sting "taught the world to sing, to sing to MTV", explained in my tedious post in this thread.

george gosset (gegoss), Friday, 4 February 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

It makes sense that if the orignal video-playing MTV drifted toward its current format, MTV2 was bound to follow the same path. Next step is of course to launch MTV3 and then MTV4 in another 5 years when MTV3 is like MTV2 now.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Friday, 4 February 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

"We want Green Day to be a kind of house band for MTV2, the way people feel about MTV being the Eminem Network," says Tom Calderon, executive vice president of talent and music.

this guy has no business doing this job

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Friday, 4 February 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

workin' in the Kremlin
with a two-headed dog

dave q (listerine), Friday, 4 February 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link

How do you get a channel? I want to program an MTV. They need some sort of competition. (Fuse isn't cutting it.)

billstevejim, Friday, 4 February 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Real world casts were more interesting! That Las Vegas cast -- my god what a boring group of people.

David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 4 February 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link

the las vegas cast were a bunch of attractive compelling rocket scientists compared to philadelphia.

the quotes in that nypost article about kids liking indie rock music are refreshingly? disturbingly? transparent and weird.

carly, Friday, 4 February 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I dont get the Eminem comment. Nowadays I feel like MTV is the 'My Chemical Romance' channel.

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

five years pass...

In the mid to late 80's, wasn't there a radio station that simulcast the audio from MTV? Possibly broadcast out of NYC? I think the commercials might have been different, but the music videos played the same time so that you could listen along on the radio while watching... Unless my memory is crazy and this is totally not true at all.

billstevejim, Sunday, 26 September 2010 06:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Apparently I was featured on MTV.com in 2003 (yes... I know... amazing):

http://web.archive.org/web/20030823200614/http://www.mtv.com/news/youtellus/topics/non_artist_topics/death_of_the_lp/082103.jhtml

MTV NEWS: YOU TELL US

Arguing Over The Album

Think back, for just a minute, to Nirvana's Nevermind — would it still be such a classic with the exclusion of half (or more) of its twelve timeless cuts? How about Radiohead's OK Computer? Would it even be worthy of its unanimous critical acclaim if reduced to "Paranoid Android" and a few outtakes? Now look at Tool's Lateralus. Although radio single "Schism" was one of its weakest tracks, the emotional depth and impact of the entire album left no listener unchanged in the wake of its perfection. Without the album format, what's left for the incredible artists who have a knack for writing timeless full-length works?

Stephen, 18
Austin, TX

I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 06:12 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha awesome

dro™ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link

A++

markers, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Although radio single "Schism" was one of its weakest tracks, the emotional depth and impact of the entire album left no listener unchanged in the wake of its perfection.

loooooool

I totally could have been a Pfork writer in 2003, amirite?

I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 13:32 (thirteen years ago) link

you said the same thing word for word about Fleet Foxes the other week

markers, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

:'(

I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link

^^ me crying while listening to Robin Pecknold's voice... the voice of a beautiful angel.

I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 13:41 (thirteen years ago) link

is stephen ilxor really older than me?

The Reverend, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

You tell me... how old are you, Rev?

xp

I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

24

The Reverend, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Yup, I got a year on ya Rev.

I'm gonna mention ilxor in everyone of my posts until I get dn'd (ilxor), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

VH1 Classic is showing awesome 80's and 90's MTV clips all weekend... shockingly uncut and without commentary. Just clips. I'm enjoying it.

billstevejim, Saturday, 30 July 2011 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

"Clips" meaning non-videos... they just showed Redman on Cribs.

billstevejim, Saturday, 30 July 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

Watchin Biggie on the Grind Beach Party with Eric Nies, just watched Puck vs. Pedro. Really enjoying this tbh.

Trip Maker, Saturday, 30 July 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

OMG lol 90s

Trip Maker, Saturday, 30 July 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

taping all 12 hours of this tbh

ennui morricone (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 30 July 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

think i'm od'ing on 90s nostalgia, need to sit down a minute here whoa

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 30 July 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

hey chris can i come over and watch HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS

maura, Saturday, 30 July 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

This compilation of every 80s contest/giveaway is incredible!
Quiet Riot spends Christmas at your house!
Motley Cruise to nowhere!
Bon Jovi Jamaican holiday!
I don't even remember the Jon Cryer movie Hiding Out, but apparently they gave away an 87 Maserati as part of a prize package promotion.

Trip Maker, Saturday, 30 July 2011 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

hey chris can i come over and watch HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS

― maura, Saturday, July 30, 2011 5:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol, i emailed u the press release like three weeks ago and we had a conversation abt it.

ennui morricone (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 31 July 2011 05:45 (twelve years ago) link

sure thing! I should probably add a "this is how I understand it anyway I could be wrong about some of this because it's stuff you figure out/research yourself as you go, not stuff ppl sit you down and explain to you"

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

those armageddon residuals are really working out for you, huh

thomp, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

When it was released on BlueRay, they had to replace it with a generic bossanova.

≝ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man, Steven Tyler is destroying all of my images of the rock and roll industry. I thought all this stuff was taught to up-and-coming rockstars by Yo La Tengo and David Cross.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

those armageddon residuals are really working out for you, huh

well that's the thing about mechanicals! they're gonna sell a lot of the Armageddon soundtrack; they want five 'smith tracks including "Sweet Emotion," a proven seller? kick ass, people, let's fuckin EAT: you're printing up a million copies because it's 1998 and we're all gonna be rich and successful forever, this business is bulletproof, the compulsory mechanical rate's 7.10 cents or 1.35 cents/min, that's 7.10 x 1,000,000 x5 (or maybe four, I forget if mechanicals are different for cover versions), you do that math, it means I Am Steven Tyler And I Get Money. didn't even have to get out of bed for that one iirc. waiter! my oysters!

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

idk about this though because I assume that the re-recorded versions would also need some paperwork done.)

― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, August 2, 2011 10:09 AM (24 minutes ago)

re-recordings are for-hire deals so there's no need to negotiate, the standard compulsory license for covers takes care of the original rights owners

big triffid in my backyard (Edward III), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

They used to do that on sitcoms in the 80s a lot.

What was the show with the twins? I remember they had a fake Bryan Adams "Run to You" playing and the girls were all "I love this song!"

There had to have been a point to that.

≝ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

saw the fist hour of MTV stuff last nite, so cuet

forget about the song "little suzy's on the up" <3

they were really pushing stereo as a big new innovation

it's weird how you forget how close the early 80s were to the 70s, like before madonna's iconic "like a virgin" mtv awards performance dan akroyd introduces her with his tom synder impression

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

Apparently jumpsuits were very popular in 1981.

righteousmaelstrom, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

saw the fist hour of MTV stuff last nite

man, strongo was right, they really can get away with a lot these days!

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

it's weird how you forget how close the early 80s were to the 70s, like before madonna's iconic "like a virgin" mtv awards performance dan akroyd introduces her with his tom synder impression

I thought the same thing!!!

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

also a noticably wasted ronnie wood mugging behind david lee roth's acceptance speech for jump was funny.

there was a performance clip of styx doing "rockin' the paradise" that was literally the dorkiest thing i'd ever seen, man i can't believe that band was popular with kids

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

I liked that jangly Byrdsy song with a dumbass video about the end of a relationship.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

As a kid, we went to the condo of one of my mom's friends. It was the first time my step-dad had seen MTV and he was just aghast that people paid for cable and still had to watch commercials.

≝ (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

dude was waaaay ahead of the curve when it came to entitled people and their staggering incredulity about paying money for content

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

should have saved that zing for when it followed

zvookster, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

I liked that jangly Byrdsy song with a dumbass video about the end of a relationship.

― Trip Maker, Tuesday, August 2, 2011 10:35 AM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

trip maker - yeah! robin lane and the chartbusters, that was great, never heard of that band ever

http://www.mtv.com/videos/robin-lane-the-chartbusters/98184/when-things-go-wrong.jhtml

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

I think I still have a VHS copy of the MTV Awards with the MJ kiss somewhere. That was also the one where Sandra Bullock was presenting with someone (I want to say Adam Sandler) and she misread the cue on the teleprompter and asked Adam what it was like to kiss Keanu Reeves. He handlded it pretty well and riffed about how safe he felt in Keanu's arms.

Something about this moment seemed staged to me... In a good way.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:43 (twelve years ago) link

probably in that it was completely scripted

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:47 (twelve years ago) link

i just said that

billstevejim, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:59 (twelve years ago) link

No repeats of the Jenny McCarthy Show though.

Probably because it was fucking awful and no one wants to see it.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:59 (twelve years ago) link

it's weird how you forget how close the early 80s were to the 70s, like before madonna's iconic "like a virgin" mtv awards performance dan akroyd introduces her with his tom synder impression

sorta like how now is pretty much still the 00's

billstevejim, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 07:17 (twelve years ago) link

Probably because it was fucking awful and no one wants to see it.

Wasn't really the standard VH1 was using in showing some of those old clips.

≝ (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

They played "Get Next To Jenny" from Spring Break :)

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

but MTV plays music videos
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/AMTV.png

billstevejim, Monday, 12 November 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

http://www.splicetoday.com/pop-culture/life-as-art

Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 22:02 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

Michael Jordan tried to make Kennedy's virginity the stakes in a dice game, apparently:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-mj-dice-kennedy-virginitiy-20130702,0,6933007.story

epic check, please! (Eazy), Wednesday, 17 July 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link

filet

how's life, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

ahhh just came here to post that - so good

nashwan, Friday, 8 May 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link

four weeks pass...

i was reading a piece on "the marshall mathers LP" when the author mentioned this program. i don't think i've thought about it once in 20 years. it was like being teleported back to being 9 years old and watching cable in my friend's basement. sort of nauseating tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o7AEb5agrc

budo jeru, Friday, 5 June 2020 04:15 (four years ago) link

When that would come on (after Beavis & Butt-head or Daria), I couldn’t change the channel fast enough.

(I was 19, not 9, but same diff)

Charging for Brewskis™ (morrisp), Friday, 5 June 2020 05:51 (four years ago) link

otm

Sam Weller, Friday, 5 June 2020 14:32 (four years ago) link

Oh god, so that led me down the rabbit hole of discovering The Wondergirls, a "supergroup" that was assembled for the Celebrity Deathmatch soundtrack (which I also had no idea existed).

Get a load of this lineup!

Ken Andrews (Failure) – guitar, synth
Ian Astbury (The Cult) – vocals, guitar, harmonica, percussion
Doug Ardito (Puddle of Mudd) – keyboards
Jay Gordon (Orgy) – vocals, synth
Martyn LeNoble (Porno for Pyros) – bass guitar
Shannon Leto (30 Seconds to Mars) – drums
Mark McGrath (Sugar Ray) – vocals
Ryan Shuck (Orgy) – guitar
Troy Van Leeuwen (A Perfect Circle/QOTSA) – guitar
Scott Weiland (STP) – vocals, keyboards
Ashley Hamilton (actor, known for Beethoven's 2nd) - vocals
Chris Lloyd (???) - guitar

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 June 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

MTV is going to hell for this pic.twitter.com/m4CWniQiIT

— N. (@nahalidabarbie) February 5, 2021

, Saturday, 6 February 2021 01:44 (three years ago) link


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