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I totally agree about the David Cavanagh Pixies article: and I did feel embarrassed buying it. But not as embarrassed as buying Loaded for the interview with Lisa from Steps. I'd rather buy soft porn than lad's mags.

alex thomson, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I too enjoyed that Pixies article, which I encountered in the best way possible -- namely, I just borrowed a friend's copy that he happened to have with him. No money exchanged, no guilt!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Even the stuff I don't like is interesting to me to read about, so any rock magazines are OK as long as you don't actually have to buy their latest issue. (Rock magazines that they have in the library here(*) - MOJO, Q, Aussie ROLLING STONE...pretty grim selection I gotta admit. Rock magazines I read if they're lying round at a friend's place - WIRE, OPPROBRIUM, obscure American fanzines with articles about their (my friends') bands in 'em. Rock mags I have actually bought in the last few years - 2nd hand copies of old '70s ones (esp. CREEM)). By that criterion (i.e. being current doesn't matter much), MOJO is a pretty good one 'cause its bias is so largely archaelogical anyway...I don't think that's a bad thing as such...it's true of course that most of their writers have pretty old-geezerish tastes - yeah well DUH - but you know what, they're much worse when they write about modern stuff than when they're doing a career autopsy of yet another geezer icon, that's 'cause old guys have even worse taste in 'modern' music than fuckin' teenagers. (Not me tho') (* = Dunedin)

Duane Zarakov, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

...yeah & if yr going to pick on a mag merely for being old-geezerish & square, Q is about 1,000,000 time worser than MOJO. Although at least Q has jokes. (Albeit the kind yr uncle would make)

D.Zarakov, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Q is a thousand times worse, because it pretends to be up-to-date. The problem with MOJO is not what it does cover but what it doesn't - the careful research etc. is always interesting when applied to bands you actually want to know about.

Tom, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Funny. I like Nick Drake far more than I like most people Mojo covers, but the last feature they did on him, while well-written in its way, was essentially as irrelevant and nonsensical as could be parodied or imagined ("I AM LIVING IN THE COUNTRYSIDE ..."; yes, wake up, MacDonald, we know, we know). And the one before that thought it necessary to show us the fucking magazine from Drake's prep school in 1962.

But on other occasions when covering people I like, Mojo pull it off magnificently. The Gainsbourg piece was the last such example.

Tom and Dr C are right about Uncut, I think. Half the time it's fascinating (Reynolds's Kid A thinkpiece, Paul Morley's everlasting way with the language, Chris Roberts making even the hackwork of the film soundtracks roundup read as though he's taking the utmost pleasure from the whole thing), but often you feel as though those involved should get out a little more and stop thinking Americana and singer-songwriters are, like, timeless and worth covering in perpetuity. It's all Jonesy's fault, of course. I could rerun some of Taylor Parkes's jokes about Jones spending most of his spare time roaming the prairie but actually knowing so little that he thought a Jimmy Nail track was by Mark Eitzel, etc., but you've probably got the idea.

I think there'd be a consensus round here about who the good and the bad Uncut writers are. And the bad ones would be those who would fit best into Mojo.

Robin Carmody, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Yeah, Q is from "look-at-us-we-know-what's-going-on-really" hell. It doesn't have Mojo's saving grace of actual knowledge and affection for the past (which is a million times better than pretending you're hip).

Whatever I may have thought of Mojo, I've never considered it to be nauseatingly smug and self-satisfied as Q is. Q, after all, is edited by the sort of people who jack it all in to write scripts for EastEnders.

Robin Carmody, Thursday, 8 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Q is indeed beneath contempt. It's really intended to sit on the coffee-table underneath 'Good Housekeeping'. Except Dad gets it out and puts it on top of the pile when his 'mates' come round. (Whaddya mean - how do I know?)

Anyway let me spring to the defence of Allan Jones. I think it's to his credit that he's managed to put together so many interesting writers (Penman, McDonald, Morley, Stubbs, Roberts) on one journal. For that we should let him have the odd Waylon Jennings interview.

Does anyone else find Nigel "5 stars" Williamson as unintentionally funny as I do. Is there an artist or genre that this man does NOT like? He seems to give everything from Spooky Tooth to Sade the same cheerily favourable review.

Dr. C, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Dr C:

"Anyway let me spring to the defence of Allan Jones."

Oh, I wasn't trying to criticise him - I think even the MM writers who took the piss had a respect for him, and an admiration for him; he wrote hardly at all for the Maker in his last few years there, and he was probably wise to adopt a background role, but he's clearly the sort of person who knows how to hold the thing together (more than he actually knew the music it was covering by then), and he mercifully steered it away from dumbed-down discourse, tacky features and flagwaving during his last 3 years there (when such things were already a disease over at the NME). Jones was the sort of editor whose importance you didn't realise until he left; the speed of the MM's decline immediately after his departure in March 97 proves that, and I'm ultimately prepared to forgive him however many dodgy things he may like. Reynolds excepted, you've listed all the "good" Uncut writers I was thinking of.

"Does anyone else find Nigel '5 stars' Williamson as unintentionally funny as I do"

He was the sort of "bad" Uncut writer I was thinking of. Dreadfully gushing writing and horribly retrogressive tastes for the most part. Uncut's bland dadrock downside.

Robin Carmody, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Very rarely pick it up because of the price, but I do enjoy it. It's crammed w/ so much detail, and I love how they cover all the records in an artists' career when they do a big feature. It's fun, come on! But hardly the place to look for unique commentary.

Question: How come all the obsessive mags like this come out of the U.K.? Are there ANY American mags that cover music in the manner of a Mojo? I honestly can't think of one. Somebody point me in the right direction.

Mark Richardson, Saturday, 10 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

I don't think you really see anything this focused on music in the states because the media conglomerates that publish the bulk of the magazines in America want *huge* circulation figures -- it would not be considered worth their while to sell the amount of magazines that Mojo sells. That's why magazines like Rolling Stone, the music is really more of a secondary concern to cuddling up to the flavor of the moment celebrity.

Nicole, Saturday, 10 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Richard Ashcroft on the cover... a big note about "progressive music"...

DUD!!!

Marcos, Monday, 12 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

Strange how the above two tendencies fit so well with each other ...

Robin Carmody, Monday, 12 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

mojo. the ramones/ny article was superb. was worth $$$ just for the cover. i prefer when they do articles on more 'recent' (ie post-punk) stuff as i can relate to it. but i have to say the articles on bands i hate (eg queen/genesis/quo) have been a blast to read. which is something i never find when i read q. thankyou. www.ireallylovemusic.co.uk

mark emsley, Tuesday, 13 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

two months pass...
First the Smiths, and now Cobain on the cover. The boomers must be dying off.

Mark, Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

And Thom Yorke on the next one! They're not even waiting for bands to become inactive anymore. At this rate cLOUDDEAD will be on the cover in another few months.

scott p., Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

eight months pass...
more honest than "opprobrium" where nepotism is cheap equivalent to mojo-ish timed press release/CD re-release, chief culprit Nick Cain track "slam-ducking-kid" of Opprobrium Du(h)ll Too "high-brow" space rock'n'puns'n'pans

George Gosset, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mojo is sometimes readable - and I have even occasionally done the odd piece for the bloody thing in the distant past - but not when it falls into "Top 100" hell, as it has done this month ("Top 100 people whose names we pulled out of a hat before lunch" - no thanks).

But the long historical pieces I do find useful, especially when regarding acts/artists about whose history I feel I ought to know more, e.g. Patto or ELO.

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Slightly more to the Top 100 hell this month but also quite frustrating - what theyve done is asked loads of people their 'heroes'. A lot of this is "wow that Jimi could really play his guitar" which is fine but hardly enlightening but there are glimses of something very interesting, when they ask some of the oldest living musicians about their influences and heroes and the people reach back to a time before even Mojo-history starts.

Tom, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Mojo's a darn good read even if they do tend to suck up to the unholy trilogy of Dylan, Beatles and the Stones.

However I now avoid the letters page at all costs, it's either gee you guys are rilly great for covering (insert name here) or someone complaining about the fact that they've dared to put Abba or Michael Jackson on the cover. Especially since the articles on the 'pop' acts are often more strange and interesting than the Lennon mended my bicycle ones they usually have.

Billy Dods, Monday, 18 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four years pass...
i want you to send me a magazines and cds
p.o.box os189
Osu Accra
Ghana

desmond abladey, Monday, 22 May 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

YOU LISTENING, MOJO?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the special issues. You can read them pretty fast cover to cover because of so many pictures. The last I read was a Rolling Stones and it had some great shots like Keith hanging out with his dad, multiple pics from Have you Seen your Mother Baby drag photo shoot, and lounging around at Laurel Canyon house with a nude groupie and Mick Taylor serving in tennis. All with the stories behind the shots.

Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Monday, 22 May 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

As someone who is actually into reading about retro stuff, I have to say I prefer Mojo to Uncut.

As great as The Beatles, David Bowie, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan and Neil Young are, there is still a limit to how much new stuff you are able to dig out about them.

Which makes Mojo more interesting because they aren't afraid to do a feature on Gerry & The Pacemakers, The Moody Blues, The Animals, Pete Seeger or David Crosby instead.

Plus Mojo does actually attempt to turn their (mainly 30-40-50 something) readers into more recent stuff too, that is, recent stuff that Mojo finds good (and the Mojo staff has a considerably broader taste in recent music compared to the Americana crazed Uncut staff)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 22 May 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link

It's funny, I've stopped liking Mojo since Phil Alexander took over as editor yet i liked RAW and Kerrang when he edited them(also presented Raw Power on TV)

Stevie Chick does get some good bands in Mojo(and Kerrang too).
I suppose having read Mojo for years now ive read about every band they cover. If they stopped repeating themselves and covered some more obscure acts I either haven't read much about/or heard of, i might buy. Then again would that sell?

Its time they gave Parliament/Funkadelic a front cover and just devoted the entire magazine to them and all the spin offs. That would make great reading.

Someone should write a really good pfunk book.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 22 May 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Would it make great circulation though? I doubt it, not with their demographic. I'd certainly buy it, but would anyone else?

(I speak from the perspective of someone who for two years unsuccessfully lobbied U***t to give Todd Rundgren the front cover and 30 pages inside)

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 07:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Latest odds for the first hip-hop act to get a full Mojo front cover:

4-5 Public Enemy
Evens Beastie Boys
7-4 Outkast
2-1 Eminem
4-1 Wu Tang Clan (Up from 5-1)
8-1 Jay Z
12-1 50 Cent (down from 8-1)
15-1 Run DMC/LL Cool J
40-1 Dizzee Rascal
50-1 bar

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Of course, if Jesus Jones ever make a comeback...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:21 (eighteen years ago) link

hmm. People buying a magazine because Jesus Jones is on the cover....

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Bear in mind the Mojo IT'S ALL GONE WRONG SINCE demographic.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Mojo

Odds to appear on the front cover

Wire 20-1
Throwing Muses 40-1
The Stranglers 75-1
Underworld 100-1
King Crimson 200-1
Killing Joke 250-1
The Associates 400-1
The Chameleons 500-1
Rush 1000-1
Porcupine Tree 10,000-1

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Ringo Starr evens

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Ringo's had his own front cover already when they did one of their special fleece the punters 4 different Beatles covers.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Have Talking Heads had a Mojo front cover?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:42 (eighteen years ago) link

There are never enough Beatles covers as far as Mojo are concerned!

Nick Hornby - evens

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Have Roxy Music had a Mojo front cover?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Its time they gave Parliament/Funkadelic a front cover and just devoted the entire magazine to them and all the spin offs.

Again that's the problem about funk/hip-hop fans. Your extreme intolerance towards anything that is not funk/hip-hop/R&B related.

Mojo have never devoted their entire magazine to one single genre, and never will. They have done funk specials, and they will again. They have also done hip-hop specials, and the likelyness of Mojo putting Public Enemy on their front page is way bigger than the likeliness of Mixmag or Kingsize putting Coldplay on their front page. Who who is the most intolerant here?

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Wrong Geir, they've done Glam rock and Krautrock specials.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 08:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Who who?

Daddy you're a fool to cry....

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Ringo has already had a lot more attention than he deserves. He was a lucky man to become the drummer for a group otherwise consisting of three geniuses.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Where is Plastic Ono Band?

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:10 (eighteen years ago) link

They are not appearing in scene of big sounds recently.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:15 (eighteen years ago) link

(I speak from the perspective of someone who for two years unsuccessfully lobbied U***t to give Todd Rundgren the front cover and 30 pages inside)

weirdly, i wouldn't have thought that would be a tough pitch there - isn't paul lester a huge Todd fan?

i am not a nugget (stevie), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:15 (eighteen years ago) link

The Mojo readership probably prefer "Imagine" to "Plastic Ono Band". You see, they have taste. :)

As for Todd Rundgren, you would have been more likely to succeed with Mojo. Select usually prefer "safe" cover stories.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I'd rather read about the making of "Plastic Ono Band" than "Imagine" which is fairly well served already.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:18 (eighteen years ago) link

What I mean is that every other aspect of the Beatles seems to have been covered ad nauseum but I don't remember ever reading anything very much about Lennon+Ono/ Plastic Ono Band

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:19 (eighteen years ago) link

(I speak from the perspective of someone who for two years unsuccessfully lobbied U***t to give Todd Rundgren the front cover and 30 pages inside)

weirdly, i wouldn't have thought that would be a tough pitch there - isn't paul lester a huge Todd fan?

You couldn't get a huger Todd fan than PL. But neither of us was able to get past Jonesey Customs...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:20 (eighteen years ago) link

"Plastic Ono Band" is probably the least Beatles sounding anyone in The Beatles has ever released, and as such may be a more risque thing to write about. Yet, I am pretty sure it was well-covered in one of their Lennon-specials.

And, btw. they have yet to make a "Mind Games" special, a "Tug Of War" special, a "Flowers In The Dirt" special or a "Cloud Nine" special. All of those were way better albums than "Plastic Ono Band".

You couldn't get a huger Todd fan than PL. But neither of us was able to get past Jonesey Customs...

There is an inhouse rule in Select that if they are ever to do a cover story of a more obscure act, it will always have to be some Americana act. :)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Where is Band band?

Samuel KB Amphong (Dada), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:24 (eighteen years ago) link

They must be on the next cover of "Select"...

Where is Duke Ellingham Swing Band band?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Last act calculated to outrage the Mojo core reader on name alone

bae (sic), Sunday, 24 December 2023 18:16 (ten months ago) link

Still very “chuffed” the album I made the art for won Mojo’s Best Electronic Album Of The Year. Been reading this magazine for 20 something years, I think.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 25 December 2023 00:34 (ten months ago) link

Congrats!

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 25 December 2023 02:19 (ten months ago) link

Thanks!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 25 December 2023 08:09 (ten months ago) link

It's a great album (and cover).

Still think of James Holden as a progressive/trance DJ so didn't realise he was now making albums like this

groovypanda, Monday, 25 December 2023 11:25 (ten months ago) link

Thanks, groovypanda.
His albums have morphed and progressed over the last few releases. Check out his Animal Spirits project if you haven't. It was a huge honor and surprise to be asked to contribute since I've been a fan of his recordings for a while.
As for the artwork - I also made a 12 page booklet that comes with the vinyl and cd (and pdf with Bandcamp digi) versions of the album.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 25 December 2023 11:48 (ten months ago) link

It's a lovely sleeve, Captain - congrats!

impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Monday, 25 December 2023 13:23 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

I'm obliged to mention that someone Out There is posting most/all of the Mojo CD comps to alt.binaries.sounds.lossless.rock. If you know what that is, you'll know how to find them.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 January 2024 03:40 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Feb was Wings, including a compilation called Jet

Mar is The North Will Rise Again with a compilation of Manchester bands and liam on the cover. didn't entice me to buy it.

koogs, Thursday, 22 February 2024 15:16 (eight months ago) link

sucks so bad that as a digital subscriber I don't have access to the CDs.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:16 (eight months ago) link

Must have been in another thread that I posted this, but it also sucks that Mojo and Uncut seem to have largely disappeared around here. Between a nearby killer newsstand and the local Barnes & Noble I was always able to pick these up, but I haven't seen a new issue of either in many months.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 February 2024 16:18 (eight months ago) link

two months pass...

supermarket stocks mojo so i do notice when they change. anyway the new one.

Jun 2024

Kate Bush – The Early Years is this month’s cover story. Everything from her early demos through Wuthering Heights to Never For Ever. Plus! An insider relives the incredible Tour Of Life. Also in the issue: The Yardbirds – the whole story; Scott Walker’s Climate Of Hunter at 40; Beth Gibbons returns; Tangerine Dream’s synth madness; Labi Siffre – famous at last. And: Crowded House; Curtis Mayfield; Anita Pallenberg; Steve Harley; Nirvana; Leyla McCalla; Richard Thompson; Lou Reed; Buzzcocks; Minutemen.

THIS MONTH’S COVERMOUNT CD is MOJO WORKING!: 15 slices of raucous, raving, rumbustious British R&B by The Yardbirds, Manfred Mann, Graham Bond, Cyril Davies, Geno Washington, Alexis Korner and more!

koogs, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 11:35 (six months ago) link

I wrote the Minutemen story - 4-page oral history on the making of Double Nickels, with new/unpublished interviews with Mike Watt, Bob Mould, Kira Roessler, Joe Baiza, Joe Carducci, Ray Farrell and David Fricke.

Buy magazines, they rule.

Big Bong Theory (stevie), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 13:58 (six months ago) link

Greatt article! Gotta go back and listen to the album

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:30 (six months ago) link

Haven't read it in age, but I was at an airport, saw it and thought now is the time. Enjoyed all of it, but especially the Minutemen article - nice work stevie! Quite moving tbh.

woof, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 14:37 (six months ago) link

Yeah Mojo and The Wire have just completely disappeared around here, haven't seen an issue in bookstores or newsstands for many, many months.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:10 (six months ago) link

For me it's that I don't really go into newsagents much any more - I never see it to think about buying it. Anyway, just subscribed.

woof, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:17 (six months ago) link

Ah thanks Boring and Woof! Have interviewed Mike W a number of ties and he never fails to leave me verklempt - the thing about thinking Ulysses was a happy, exciting book until rereading it when he was 40 ("The book didn't change, but I had") hit me hard on this one.

Big Bong Theory (stevie), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:17 (six months ago) link

yeah it was very insightful. I love autodidacts

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:26 (six months ago) link

[xp by which I mean when he reread it at 40 he found it to be a sad book]

Big Bong Theory (stevie), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:33 (six months ago) link

I wrote the Minutemen story - 4-page oral history on the making of Double Nickels, with new/unpublished interviews with Mike Watt, Bob Mould, Kira Roessler, Joe Baiza, Joe Carducci, Ray Farrell and David Fricke.

Wonderful. I was actually hoping for this earlier this month when I played through all of their records after seeing so many people on social media commemorate D. Boon's birthday on April 1. Still frustrating that Mike Watt was never able to release an uncut remastered edition of Double Nickels - he definitely tried but I guess Greg Ginn blew him off.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:33 (six months ago) link

Have yet to hear anyone (other than Mugger) speak fondly of Ginn.

Big Bong Theory (stevie), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:52 (six months ago) link

How did other bands get their masters back? Offer Ginn a lot of money or go through the courts? Money something I assume Watt and others don't have.

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:21 (six months ago) link

Mojo is absolutely killing it as of late. I know rock is dead and all but it's kind of wild that there's no American magazine left that's going to put Pearl Jam on a cover in 2024

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:26 (six months ago) link

xp I think you just need to get some solid lawyers to confront SST and Ginn rolls over. A couple of catches: doesn't work if the band members can't agree to terms and clear the way for lawyers to move forward (see Hüsker Dü) and even if Ginn concedes, he hasn't done shit to properly maintain or store the masters, so even though you get back the rights, the physical masters may be lose (see Meat Puppets)

birdistheword, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:29 (six months ago) link

*lost

birdistheword, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 20:29 (six months ago) link

I know it's the wrong mag, but Select has a cover mount of Can Live tracks this month..

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:21 (six months ago) link

I think that's Uncut, didn't Select go away a long time ago?

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 21:24 (six months ago) link

Oh yeah. Uncut. Opps.

Mark G, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:13 (six months ago) link

xp I think you just need to get some solid lawyers to confront SST and Ginn rolls over. A couple of catches: doesn't work if the band members can't agree to terms and clear the way for lawyers to move forward (see Hüsker Dü) and even if Ginn concedes, he hasn't done shit to properly maintain or store the masters, so even though you get back the rights, the physical masters may be lose (see Meat Puppets)

― birdistheword, Tuesday, April 30, 2024 3:29 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

i spoke with this directly with terry katzman about the husker du stuff (terry ran reflex records for the huskers) before he died, they did have lawyers - the same lawyers that dino jr. and meat puppets used i think he said -- but the husker contract was different and had some more onerous language in it that they could not overcome. the band was actually all fairly united (at least as united as huskers get) and behind the project. ginn does not just roll over by any means.

so they could do the savage young du boxset, because that was largely based on terry's tapes and pre-sst. the original plan was to work with numero on a reissue series of the entire catalog - i think he said the idea was to have sets where it would be a remastered album then another disc of outtakes and/or live performances of that era.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:22 (six months ago) link

^^^ oh maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:31 (six months ago) link

yeah it's a tragedy that it never happened and now that Terry is gone it never will, he had so much energy to make it happen he cared way more about that band than the members did

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:41 (six months ago) link

Yeah, the impression Bob gave me last time I interviewed him is that they had lawyers, they'd approached Ginn, but that it was just too hard, and in the end he's just written it all off as a lost cause. It's such a shame.

SST seem to have bumped up their vinyl represses over the last couple of years, but I don't see them doing any deluxe reissues with outtakes, etc, and that's a shame. I remember telling Carducci when I was researching my Flag book that it was a tragedy they weren't celebrating the back catalog that way, and that the CDs didn't sound great and could do with a remaster at the very least, but he argued that they sound fine. Still...

Big Bong Theory (stevie), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 13:44 (six months ago) link

Interesting and very sad. I was going by that interview Grant did where he claimed Bob was asking for too much control and too big of a share of the catalog in order to get it away from SST, but I guess a lot happened after that bump in the road.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 20:56 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.mojo4music.com/magazine/latest-issues/mojo-368-july-2024-paul-weller/

Weller cover, Byrds related cover cd

koogs, Saturday, 18 May 2024 18:49 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

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