Malcolm McLaren RIP

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WFMU just ran Irwin Chusid's 1983 interview with MMcL...really interesting, worth listening to the archived show when it's updated later this evening.

millions now zinging will never lol (WmC), Wednesday, 14 April 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I found that Ebert piece to be really interesting. The idea of Meyer, Ebert, McLaren and Rotten all working together is quite a thing to contemplate. Not really surprising it didn't work out but it has to be one of the great "what ifs" of 20th century popular culture. Thanks for linking. It's weird how there's a couple of bits that almost foreshadow what would happen in real life, like the final line of the movie would have been Rotten saying "Did yer ever had the feeling yer being watched" and Sid's quote after reading the script "I don't think my mum will like the bit about the heroin".

everything, Wednesday, 14 April 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

that momus/mclaren interview linked above makes both of them seem like pretentious nitwits. which sounds about right.

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 15 April 2010 08:06 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought it was a great interview. 8yrs on it makes me wonder where and in who the spirit of punk is hiding now ?

beat boy damager, power 2 the people (Its all about face), Thursday, 15 April 2010 09:54 (fourteen years ago) link

The spirit of punk was reincarnated in a baby girl born in Asia born on 1/1/2000. She will restore punk to world dominance in 2018.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Aja?

Mark G, Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought it was a great interview. 8yrs on it makes me wonder where and in who the spirit of punk is hiding now ?

― beat boy damager, power 2 the people (Its all about face), Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:54 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

like for serious? they just come off as pompous wankers to me. especially all the "people nowadays, they've lost touch with (x)" speculation which in my mind = total blowhard. through, i dunno, baudrillard into the mix and there'd be stratospheric levels of self-satisfied hyperbole about the "zeitgeist."

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

also "spirit of punk" whatevs

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

isn't momus like philosophically opposed to punk, too? he's mentioned this numerous times.

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

two 'pompous wankers' talking smack is what makes it great. and yeah 'spirit of punk', oi oi and the whole subversive fuck the world thing, i know it's cliche but whos doing that these days ?

'isn't momus like philosophically opposed to punk, too? he's mentioned this numerous times."

haha...and who sounds like pretentious twat now then

beat boy damager, power 2 the people (Its all about face), Thursday, 15 April 2010 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

"whole subversive fuck the world thing, i know it's cliche but whos doing that these days"

I feel the magnet-denials/fuck-the-worldism of ICP are subversive but in the wrong direction.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 15 April 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

haha...and who sounds like pretentious twat now then

er what? momus has written that about punk numerous times here and on his various web sites. just strikes me as odd that he would reject the sex pistols and then look to mclaren as some kind of guru.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 16 April 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i saw a couple wearing matching ICP t-shirts in the health-food co-op today.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 16 April 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link

punk music was bollocks if you ask me but the DIY ethics and aesthetics were choice. McLaren was always more than the one dimension the sex pistols portrayed.

so yeah, dunno about guru but as a role model on how to make grand artistic statements irrespective of success, failure or morality, he was quite inspirational.

beat boy damager, power 2 the people (Its all about face), Friday, 16 April 2010 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

everyone seems to have behaved brilliantly over this, it seems to have brought out the best in all his ex friends ex enemies ex wives and whoever else. no one's had a bad word to say.

even NME has got it right, their best cover in *years*

http://www.nme.com/layout/magImage.php

piscesx, Friday, 16 April 2010 05:01 (fourteen years ago) link

time heals i wounds, i guess. or maybe he made up with people late in life. certainly he fucked enough people over once upon a time.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 16 April 2010 05:56 (fourteen years ago) link

"time heals i wounds" is of course the bad brains version of "time heals all wounds"

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 16 April 2010 05:56 (fourteen years ago) link

"Momus says nowt but his prayers, y'knaa"

Mark G, Friday, 16 April 2010 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Funeral was today.

Guess who: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47694000/jpg/_47694434_adamant_getty226282.jpg

Mark G, Thursday, 22 April 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Adam Ant - look'n like a hobo

...as if he needed the pic on his hat

beat boy damager, power 2 the people (Its all about face), Thursday, 22 April 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I've must have seen a dozen WDYLL threads, and I'll be damned if there's a man or woman amongst us who can call Adam fucking Ant out for looking like a hobo.

Soukesian, Thursday, 22 April 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

If only i knew what a WDYLL thread was ?

Just sayin prince charming seems a lifetime ago. Anyone got a full frontal of the pic to see how the head matches the rest of the ensemble ?

or a photostream of the funeral/procession. It sounded fittingly grand and irreverently spectacular.

beat boy damager, power 2 the people (Its all about face), Thursday, 22 April 2010 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link

he looks good for his age, tho.

regarding mclaren being some sort of shady, untrustworthy character in business deals...

what did he actually do that was so bad? aside from kicking adam ant out of his own band. or is this just a rep he played up himself?

max arrrrrgh, Sunday, 25 April 2010 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

everyone seems to have behaved brilliantly over this, it seems to have brought out the best in all his ex friends ex enemies ex wives and whoever else. no one's had a bad word to say.

even NME has got it right, their best cover in *years*

― piscesx, Friday, 16 April 2010 06:01 (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ha. will this image change every week now?

max arrrrrgh, Sunday, 25 April 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

ah brilliant! i hope so. wonder why it does/ did that? how very 21st century.

piscesx, Sunday, 25 April 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Funeral sounds a laugh anyway
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/malcolm-mclaren-funeral-sean-ohagan

sonofstan, Sunday, 25 April 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

hmmm.....

Mark G, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 07:19 (fourteen years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

RIP

anyone else at this point in malcolm mclaren and the bootzilla orchestra's "call a wave" hear "women of ireland", e.g. this kind of bit?

conrad, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 15:12 (one month ago) link


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