It's so frustrating that there's a whole load of Sea Nymphs material which is the equal(if not better) of that album that has never seen the light of day, except for on live bootlegs and that one Peel Session. Enough for at least two more albums, apparently.
Apart from that, there's only the early cassette album Mr & Mrs Smith & Mr Drake, which is rather more lo-fi, but has a kind of eerie timelessness about it that the later more polished stuff lacks.
― Pheeel, Friday, 14 May 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link
would say the SN album is nothing if not completely timeless tbh
― coalition to me (acoleuthic), Friday, 14 May 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
This has just reminded me that I have a decent rip of the SN peel session on a DAT tape of all things, I must dig that out.
― double shyamalan (MaresNest), Friday, 14 May 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2010/03/spratleys-japs-hazel-cd-ep-1999-uk.html
― double shyamalan (MaresNest), Monday, 17 May 2010 12:25 (fourteen years ago) link
So 'Pony' is still in stock? Might get me a copy...
(btw I bumped the Cardiacsy thread for Knifeworld earlier. Some decent bass on that album) ;-)
― coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 17 May 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh hey, I noticed, to be honest it was so damn long ago (maybe 6 years or more) that I recorded anything for Kavus I can't honestly remember what I did, I know it was only a few tracks, maybe 3 or 4. I didn't think he'd even use any of it because at the time, the tracks were pretty skeletal. So the decent bass is most likely Craig or Kavus :)
― double shyamalan (MaresNest), Monday, 17 May 2010 12:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh wait so that album's been in the making for a while? He did all that Authority stuff even after beginning Knifeworld?
― coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 17 May 2010 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep, it's his magnificent octopus
― double shyamalan (MaresNest), Monday, 17 May 2010 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link
except he says there's another one out soon as well, maybe it's a two-part octopus
'Me To The Future Of You' is his Dirty Boy, though; that's pretty much beyond any doubt
― coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 17 May 2010 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Out soon...
― double shyamalan (MaresNest), Monday, 17 May 2010 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link
so glad I didn't use all 25 nominations for the 05-09 poll, just sayin'
― coalition to me (acoleuthic), Monday, 17 May 2010 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link
More on this soon, but
'Fanny' by Spratley's Japs is one of the best songs ever
― always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Kavus has confirmed in a podcast interview that Cardiacs won't be playing live again. Not really a surprise given the apparent seriousness of Tim's condition, but still sad to hear it nonetheless. He did also mention the benefit album will probably be out by the end of the year.
― Pheeel, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 11:57 (fourteen years ago) link
ah well. tim's got a better excuse than andy partridge i guess
still hoping tim recovers, and recovers sufficiently to finish mixing LSD - but more that he recovers, really
― acoleuthic, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link
― always changing, always the same (acoleuthic), Saturday, 5 June 2010 03:24 (2 months ago)
loverocksunanthem
possibly my favourite song now
it's just too much, too good. it's what my head looks like on the inside.
cannot begin to convey how it makes me feel, and how it aligns with my best feelings
― acoleuthic, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Info on the tribute album here, available for pre-order : http://www.thegenepool.co.uk/items/597.htm
― Portnoy Leaves Dream Theater (Matt #2), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Andy Partridge!
― 17th Century Catholic Spain (Abbbottt), Friday, 22 October 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
The blurb say Tim is still in hospital over two years since his stroke :-(
― Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 22 October 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
WE WILL PRAISE HIM
― acoleuthic, Friday, 22 October 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm really interested to hear which song Ultrasound cover, I recently got a copy of The Sea Nymphs album which I remember their lead singer Tiny praising in the NME back in the day.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 22 October 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
aargh i want to preorder but don't know what my address will be when this ships! what a lame conundrum
― sleepingbag, Friday, 22 October 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
+ i don't trust my building's office to forward anything to me after i move because i've brought them previous tennant's mail before and the girl at the office there threw it out in front of me!
― sleepingbag, Friday, 22 October 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Got it today, psyched!
― philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Wednesday, 22 December 2010 23:49 (thirteen years ago) link
It's not on Gracenote yet, boo!
Any word on Tim's condition? It's been such a long time...just realized that Guns is going to be 12 years old :()
― frogbs, Thursday, 3 February 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Well sadly, he's still in an extremely dependant state. The record they were working on before Tim's attack (LSD) will likely remain unreleased because his vocals had yet to be added.
Did you know about this frogbs?
http://www.thegenepool.co.uk/items/597.htm
It's pretty great in the main and all proceeds go directly to Tim.
― philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm working w/Moe Staiano (ex Sleepytime Gorilla Museum percussionist) on a Tim Smith benefit in San Francisco for May. Several bands who want to cover Cardiacs will play (and if your band is in the bay and wants to play, let me know)
― Dominique, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
sometimes, every now and then, I wish I lived in the uk america
― Dominique, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 02:55 (3 years ago)
also I need to get my mitts on that album - my bank account has been empty since I got my ticket to NZ so as soon as I'm next paid that thing is en route chez moi. refuse point-blank to d/l it without paying.
Although if you could titillate me with some descriptions, MN... :P
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow MaresNest really is our source on the ground...but it's still very sad to hear of his state of course.
Supposedly Tundra covers Will Bleed Amen. Prepare yr ears :p
― Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
that is the single thing I am most looking forward to tbh
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH-BAB-BA-BA-DAH-DUH-DUH
I think those Duhs match up with the Will Bleed Amen riff...maybe..possibly...
Loved a lot of 2010 music, but this makes the '10 ILM poll look just feeble.
― Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
ah man I am trying to imagine an alternate ILX reality where Guns is released in our messageboard's lifetime, and its subsequent appearance in the year-end poll
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link
hell, Sing To God
Well for one, The North Sea Radio Orchestra do a version of March which is one of my favourites and NSRO are beyond awesome.
And here is a mild derail to prove it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR6axzyFX-k
― philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link
44 Cardiacs - Sing To God (Parts 1 and 2) 348 points, 7 votes, 6 first-place votes
ooooooh! will listen now :) p.s. on that 'discoveries of 2010' thread I concur w/ you about P-Model
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh yes, thanks fot that frogbs and for taking the time to answer!
― philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Lex (not having any past knowledge): ooh who're this Cardaics band? (Lex would phrase it better than that)
But they're our little secret, and that's better than horrid ubiquity.
― Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link
The comp is pretty excellent throughout, the only clunker is Jullianne Regan's phoned in version of a Sea Nymphs track.
Additionally there was a bonus cd of even more covers that might still be available too, or may be a download only thing, but it's pretty high standard.
― philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Lex attempting to listen to Cardiacs would be the best thing ever, especially if we started him on The Sea Nymphs and he declared it awesome, wanting to know more...
...then, BAM, The Duck And Roger The Horse. KO.
I don't think it'd be horrid if Cardiacs were ubiquitous, but they're not going to achieve such a thing (at the moment, I think they have a very bright critical future however). I proselytise them whenever possible! It is nice to have a posse of people as passionate about them as I am. Hence my projected votes-breakdown :P
The bonus CD opens with Silvery <3 and I intend to get hold of it too!
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
xpI wanna hear Radiohead in triple-guitar mode tear through Signs (and I don't even like Radiohead these days).
Or The-Dream cover 'Eden in the Air', with harmonised auto-tuned backup!
― Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
ah man, now I really could post all night
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Well sadly, he's still in an extremely dependant state. The record they were working on before Tim's attack (LSD) will likely remain unreleased because his vocals had yet to be added.Did you know about this frogbs?http://www.thegenepool.co.uk/items/597.htmIt's pretty great in the main and all proceeds go directly to Tim.
Yeah. I bought it; haven't heard whether its very good or not (I honestly cannot imagine how you cover this band) but I haven't bought any other Cardiacs discs because I haven't found any 'official' release (as they generally fetch > $100 on amazon and ebay), so its the least I could do. I've dealt with the death of some of my musical heroes (Klaus Dinger especially stung) but the thought of Tim Smith being incapacitated is just killing me.
If ilx ever did a year end poll for 1995, Sing to God would have to be #1; it's my pick for best album of all-time
― frogbs, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Eden In The Air given a psych-RnB makeover would be INSANE
frogbs, we do not appear to have met much, and yet we are curiously in agreement on a number of important topics!
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
A few of the covers from the comp are on YouTube.
Oh and has anyone seen these guys? Gilliam.
An Israeli band playing really great, faintly Klezmerish versions of Cardiacs songs gawd bless 'em.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exVrxNuMeOE
― philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
p.s. on that 'discoveries of 2010' thread I concur w/ you about P-Model
i really ought to start a thread for them...
― frogbs, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link
xp hehheh. Saying that, one important element of being into Cardiacs (+parts of the family) for me was being quite measured in my listening; not burning myself out on the frenzied amazingness. They are too intense or concentration-dependent to burn out on - your brain says 'enough' - unlike XTC who I'm on a huge break from. But that's just me..
― Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I remember we've had some discussion like this before, with you favouring this continued exposure..for me, they are a treat, like a bottle of champagne.
― Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link
NSRO were lovely, MORE MORE MORE (I'll have a little snuffle around) and now yeah that cover calls...
btw, THE MAGIC OF POLLZ FREEFORM 1990's ALTERNATIVE ALBUM POLL - THE RECKONING (TOP TEN COUNTING DOWN NOW)
Cardiacs are a kinda go-to for me - I rarely go 2 or 3 days without a fix. Recently I've been mad discovering other shit. Hasn't stopped me, of course. Complete listens-through are a rare and delightful treat, of course :)
― acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
StG your #1 all time too?? That album was like my destiny. I discovered Cardiacs by accident!! Someone sent me a tune and I completely forgot about it, but listened to "Captain Lou Albano's History of Music" (love this tune) and next up was "Cardiacs - In a City Lining". I think like 3 minutes in I had this feeling of, whoaaaa, this is going to be one of your new favorite bands. After hearing the first two albums and reading all about StG I had a strong feeling that it could become my favorite album of all time. I remember giving it that first listen, getting to "Dirty Boy" and cranking it up so loud it made my ears ring for a good half hour after.
― frogbs, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Big <3in in this thread! Dirty Boy is one of the few pieces of music that makes me actually feel *faint*. It's so overpowering, nothing can follow it. It absorbs (most) rock music.
― Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link