Who has more original, harder, stranger, colder, more bombastic riffs than Zep?
That said: Stairway to Heaven may be Zep's pop masterpiece, but pop isn't what I want out of a hard band. I've seen them twice but after the first album, they could only play arrangements of their multitracked recordings. If Zeps extraordinary arrangements bear any responsibility for the over-produced so-called power ballads that came after, I curse them. Finally, Jimmy played the coldest blues based solos ever - his solos bother me every time I hear them but, maybe that's a good thing.
― TK, Friday, 29 September 2000 00:00 (twenty-four years ago) link
as for zeppelin, to paraphrase cole gagne on branca, it does not matter what anyone thinks about them any more than it matters what anyone thinks of the sun. they were my ecstasy and education from ages 10-14 or so. i can't stand them most of the time now, after punk happened long ago for me but there are always precious moments when i can listen and get into it again. the reasons for loving them and hating them are both equally obvious and *don't matter*. zeppelin simply are.
curiously neglected so far:
i) the obvious vulnerable and androgynous qualities of robert plant's voice and persona. *this* is one item that separates them from standard macho beer-drinking rock and makes them valuable to misfit teen boys (god knows none of the *jocks* were listening to them in my gr 8 class).
ii) the tolkien's not there to make the fans feel smug and intellectual. fuck, when do most people read tolkien? gr 6? gr 7? it's there because, along with the music, zeppelin really aimed to create a fantasy-world and to achieve an otherworldly experience. item number two.
listening to just the cure all the time though. gah.
― sundar subramanian, Friday, 29 September 2000 00:00 (twenty-four years ago) link
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― Josh, Sunday, 1 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-four years ago) link
― sundar subramanian, Monday, 2 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-four years ago) link
The best Zep, though, were "Physical Graffiti" and "Presence." The first LP of the former is the best funk record ever recorded (better even that Parliament/Funkadelic). The second is just great.
― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Thursday, 5 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-four years ago) link
Kris.
― Kris P. Ozzfest Rainout, Thursday, 5 October 2000 00:00 (twenty-four years ago) link
― f.ccccc, Wednesday, 29 November 2000 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Omar Munoz, Wednesday, 3 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― swastikas forever, Thursday, 25 January 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Jack Redelfs, Wednesday, 21 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Jeff J., Monday, 26 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― ray charles, Tuesday, 27 March 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― LZ, Saturday, 23 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Fuck you all
― Milton Robertson, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Fred's gay, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Nicole, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Later bands would imitate the screamin and screaching guitars; however, the rythm sectio could not be duplicated. Furthermore, the sound of led zeppelin was a result of a combination of many influencs,including indian classical and celtic. Later bands' sound was a result of musical interests within the band that were limited in genre.
All of the musicians in the band are of the highest quality. JImmy Page ranks as one of the best guitarists ever, and the rythm section of John Paul Jones an John Bonham is unrivaled. The songwritig duo of Page and Plant was also one of the best ever.
Contrary to the beliefs of some people who have posted, Led zeppelin set records for sales of tickets and albums. Their live performances shattered tickt sales records, due to elongated versions of songs such as moby dick, which is also an example of Bonham's amazing talent. They are also right behind the beatles in total record sales. HOwever, the beatles had 21 albums, where zep only had 10.
Now could somebody clarify how zeppelin isn't good, because i just don't see it.
― jim, Saturday, 30 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Rajesh Naik, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― muppet monkey, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
I like Plant's voice.
― mark s, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
But the stuff I think I most enjoy from them are when they were just plain goofy and/or eccentric. I'm thinking "Boogie with Stu", "Hats Off (to Roy Harper)", "The Crunge", "Hot Dog", etc
Can't think of too many weak moments from Zep, actually...
― Joe, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
I can understand those who don't like them becasue of the Prog/Dinosaur overtones, but simply noting that they were in that field would negate the accusations of them bieng anti-intellectual and lacking skill.
Sure, some of their songs are *fairly* simple, but on the whole, they almost always managed to do something unexpected or quirky within the context of Loud Blues.
They're one of the few Rawk bands I can stand, because there's always something ungraspable about how they came to what they ended up doing. To me, if you can figure out how a band got to their end product (and could replicate it yourself), why bother listening to it?
― CountV/John T, Friday, 27 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Zeppelin's music, if you listen to it, was exstremly inventive and layered. Led Zeppelins actually musical influence can actually be felt most from everyone from Prince to REM to Jane's Addiction to Smashing Pumpkins. Not lame hair metal, lol. On the other hand all Black Sabbath ever influenced was moronic crap like death metal, or black metal and a bunch of low IQed, beer swilling "metal heads" with a mentality to "break stuff" and worship the devil. Please.
Also the comments about Led Zeppelin not being intellectual are ignorant in my opinion. Is Mozart not intellectual? He certainly did not have many lyrics about war or polotics did he? What was intellectual about Zeppelin was there musical ability. The world was filled with tons of good and lame bands that where "politcally consious", i think they where and still are a breath of fresh air. I like some Punk rock, but if you are that non-ecclectic as to be turned off to great musicans because of some silly ideal or scene (like punk) then your a idiot.
― Robert, Friday, 21 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
So, did Sabbath influence Iron Maiden or Judas Priest? Probably, but not in the way they might have liked. There may be a reason Maiden - a band that does few covers - did one of Whole Lotta Love, but never a single Sabbath tune.
― Jack Torrance, Thursday, 4 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― J Corabi, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Ron
― Ron Murray, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
So they influenced R. Kelly, too!
― Dan Perry, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― dleone, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― chaki, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ben Williams, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― mark s, Saturday, 8 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Anyband with Bonham at the back was on to a winner (unless it was Bonham's own band) and Page and Plant ain't so bad either. Actually, I recall Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull fame telling Melody Maker back in the day that with his lyrics and Zep's music they "could have made quite a good little rock and roll band." Ha ha ha ha ha.. sorry, I laugh my ass off everytime I hear that.
Gimme Physical Graffiti everytime. I think it's actually too good, if that's possible, which it isn't, but it feels like it is when I listen to that album. Does anyone else know what I (don't) mean?
― Roger Fascist, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Andrew L, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Meagan, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 07:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
Actually quite many. Check out Sabbath's "Behind the wall of sleep".
― Esko, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 16:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 19:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 17:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
But for the person who said 'Zeppelin=Overrated' and then trotted out Creedence FFS! Sheesh!! And to hear Plant getting sledged for his vocals and then having some numbnuts raving on about the monumentally mediocre Cure PURLEASE..
The best point in this entire thread is that Zeppelin's music has stood the test of time and that what passes for rock these days will be forgotten this time next year.
Cheers,
REB
― Rik E Boy (Rik E Boy), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 02:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 02:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 18:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 21:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 21:25 (twenty years ago) link
this implicit progression was symbolised by the band's unwillingness to let their rip-offs go credited to the original writers
Led Zeppelin's blues songs are NOT ripoffs and they DID NOT steal them!! They don't sound ANYTHING like the originals. Have you ever heard "When the Levee Breaks" by Memphis Minnee? Or "In My Time of Dying" by Bob Dylan?? Ever notice that they sound absolutely NOTHING like Zep's versions??? I really hate it when rock critics say this to somehow degrade Zep's music. It was pretty much the reason why Rolling Stone hated Zep so much. As if that IN ANY WAY has anything to do with how Zep's records sound!!
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 21:35 (twenty years ago) link
― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 21:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 22:29 (twenty years ago) link
My head says Side B of PG; my heart says Side A of IV (first I ever heard them).
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 4 May 2024 22:59 (six months ago) link
Real HEADZ know it's Side B of Coda.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 4 May 2024 23:15 (six months ago) link
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Song_Remains_the_Same_(album)#/media/File%3ALed_Zeppelin_-_The_Song_Remains_the_Same.jpgNo one’s favorite. It’s like this album doesn’t exist
― calstars, Saturday, 4 May 2024 23:27 (six months ago) link
https://rovimusic.rovicorp.com/image.jpg?c=qG2JuCil97x-J0iLhR1XAVWnbEN5fCjifro6xhIBuB4=&f=4
― calstars, Saturday, 4 May 2024 23:42 (six months ago) link
does anybody remember laughter
― mookieproof, Sunday, 5 May 2024 00:02 (six months ago) link
also lol did styx rip the idea for 'paradise theater' off this cover
― mookieproof, Sunday, 5 May 2024 00:05 (six months ago) link
has that cover always said "Gala Premier"?? is that the record store version of the ape playing basketball?
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Sunday, 5 May 2024 03:00 (six months ago) link
ok
best LED ZEPPELIN album side
― mookieproof, Sunday, 5 May 2024 06:21 (six months ago) link
“You build my hopes so high / baby then you let me down so low”
― calstars, Friday, 10 May 2024 19:25 (five months ago) link
“Youuuuuuaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh — you build my hopes so high then you let me down you let me down you let me down so low”
― calstars, Friday, 10 May 2024 22:34 (five months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/PISOeyp.jpegLove jimmy’s extra small zoso sweater phase
― calstars, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 23:14 (five months ago) link
Borrowed it from one of his 12-year-old girlfriends, no doubt.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 21 May 2024 23:44 (five months ago) link
I wonder what jimmy thought about Pink Floyd
― calstars, Friday, 24 May 2024 00:52 (five months ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/track/49gK7IgvdjZDcei0HJ8yYu?si=GkoPW4vMTmq4D9eu6b4flQ
― calstars, Monday, 27 May 2024 01:44 (five months ago) link
ain't clicking on that without context
― mookieproof, Monday, 27 May 2024 01:50 (five months ago) link
It’s we’re gonna groove studio!I need to find the version from the dvd, it slays
― calstars, Monday, 27 May 2024 02:00 (five months ago) link
“Woman I don’t know which way to go”
― calstars, Monday, 27 May 2024 02:09 (five months ago) link
Uhh
― calstars, Monday, 27 May 2024 02:10 (five months ago) link
you may need to ramble
― mookieproof, Monday, 27 May 2024 02:10 (five months ago) link
Good call
― calstars, Monday, 27 May 2024 02:13 (five months ago) link
All of my memories of coda are intertwined with trying to stay alive in ultima iv
― calstars, Monday, 27 May 2024 02:17 (five months ago) link
I didn’t know it was possible to “hole up” so you can imagine the problems of not sleeping
― calstars, Monday, 27 May 2024 02:21 (five months ago) link
It’s we’re gonna groove studio!I need to find the version from the dvd, it slays― calstars
― calstars
my understanding is that the _coda_ version is just the version from the dvd with overdubs! it's presented as "studio" but it's not actually
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 27 May 2024 16:25 (five months ago) link
ahh that makes sense
― calstars, Tuesday, 28 May 2024 01:21 (five months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/86OibII.jpeg
― calstars, Saturday, 29 June 2024 22:23 (four months ago) link
📹
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 29 June 2024 23:04 (four months ago) link
https://halftimebeverage.com/media/catalog/product/cache/5a9ece781d558937ae51db0fc99c94f4/rdi/rdi/ballantine-3212_1.png
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 29 June 2024 23:04 (four months ago) link
lol true
― calstars, Saturday, 29 June 2024 23:17 (four months ago) link
welp
Travel press tradition passed down from @finnygo: Other embeds and I rolled a question on an orange up to JD Vance from the back of the plane. Quick response rolled back on his favorite song: Led Zeppelin, Ten Years Gone. pic.twitter.com/wxJpDRQ6gd— Kit Maher (@KitMaherCNN) October 8, 2024
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 04:04 (four weeks ago) link
should've gone extra troll and chosen "no quarter"
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 04:31 (four weeks ago) link
There are many days when "No Quarter" is my favorite LZ song.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 13:36 (four weeks ago) link
1970: LED ZEPPELIN - Better than THE BEATLES? | Nationwide | BBC Archive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLDJVCC3Ip4
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 13:49 (four weeks ago) link
The Led Zeppelin
― calstars, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 13:56 (four weeks ago) link
no quarter is of infinite depth, sometimes it’s my favorite too. one of those songs I can just completely escape into. A distant cousin of “no quarter” is “the asphalt world” by suede.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 9 October 2024 14:09 (four weeks ago) link
surely his least favorite is Immigrant Song
― There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Wednesday, 9 October 2024 14:16 (four weeks ago) link