i'm think maybe a buncha people haven't heard time fades away, since it's barely ever been released on cd. seems more forgotten about by the general public than TtN and OtB, to me
― If you can believe your eyes and ears (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 5 June 2010 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link
That's true. It still hasn't received a proper release on cd. Probably never will in Neil's lifetime. I grabbed a digital copy of the internet, which is better (or no worse) than giving money to bootleggers for a pirated vinyl transfer to a cdr.
― Protect family from germs of disease (KMS), Sunday, 6 June 2010 01:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean the digital copies on the internet are obviously vinyl rips as well.
― Protect family from germs of disease (KMS), Sunday, 6 June 2010 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link
there's an hdcd rip out there too - it was prepped for release at some point in the 90s and pulled at the last minute.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 6 June 2010 02:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I read that on the wikipedia page after I posted my comment. They went as far as pressing test cds back in the Nineties. I'll have relisten to my copy on headphones to see if I can tell it's source. It boggles the mind as to why they just don't go ahead and release the thing at this point.
― Protect family from germs of disease (KMS), Sunday, 6 June 2010 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Roomfull, did you see Bert too? how was he?
Jansch was very good. Like most of the audience, I'm not really familiar w/his stuff, but enjoyed what I heard. He did "Black Water Side". He talked a little with the audience and at the end thanked us for not throwing anything at him.
― Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
super cool that neil is bringing jansch on tour ... hopefully the audiences are respectful. guess neil and bert aren't playing any songs together though? that'd be interesting.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Neil at the Fox Theater in Oakland=hooray! Tix $90-$200=fuck that. I know Neil loves his big ticket prices, but seriously for 2 people I could get a fucking subscription to the opera for that rate.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 01:00 (fourteen years ago) link
ha, i know -- was sort of afraid that he'd schedule a date in my neck of the woods and then i'd have to freak out about whether i could actually afford it. but he hasn't scheduled one yet. amazing that people pay so much for tix to these shows -- i'm a HUGE fan, but I have trouble spending more than $50 for any concert.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 02:24 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i'm kind of realizing i might never see him again because of ticket prices
― For Nick Lachey, Forever Ago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link
now you're depressing me ...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link
$50 + surcharge is as high as I will go for rock n roll.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 04:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:18 AM (2 years ago)
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 9 June 2010 05:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Funny news from the merch table: They were selling copies of the Archives BluRay box for $250.
― Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 June 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
such a bummer
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/11/09/BAAQ1G9C6V.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea
― jaxon, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
yeha, brutal. this will probably set archives vol. 2 back at least three decades.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
none of the archives stuff was in this warehouse fwiw
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link
well, for purely selfish reasons, i'm glad! hope nothing totally irreplaceable was lost.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link
"Yeah, I'd like to declare 3 cars, 20 guitars...a whole lot of posters and stuff...and, uh, all the masters of Times Fades Away, yeah, every damn copy I had...that's the ticket..."
― da croupier, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link
here's the official word:
1-despite the damage, most everything of real value survived.2-the archives are safe and not there.3-some video and film was onsite and is ok.4- Lincvolt was parked over night there and did not fare well in the fire.5-no precious guitars were on site.6- I foresee a yard sale in our future and imagine that you will hear abut itthru me or other official channels.7- everyone is ok
― tylerw, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Happy 65th!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY4U--ACpsE
― clemenza, Friday, 12 November 2010 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo6gz1YYVnM
^^^oddly similar melody to Pocahantas
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 November 2010 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link
That's just amazing. I looked up the date, and the Pam Dickinson song is 1966. To me, that's a much more credible example of (subconscious, I'm sure) plagarism than George Harrison and the Chiffons. I'm contacting this woman immediately to see if she wants to launch a lawsuit. If she says yes, I'm quitting my job and going to law school.
― clemenza, Friday, 12 November 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
haha
um the song is written by Carole King
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 November 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm thinking that Neil and Carole are probably good friends; sounds like my lawsuit's a non-starter.
― clemenza, Friday, 12 November 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link
it's just weird - it popped up on this Girl Group Sounds box set and I was like waitaminit I know this melody from somewhere
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 12 November 2010 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link
ha! i've heard that song before, but never made the connection. but yeah, pretty similar.
― tylerw, Friday, 12 November 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Dammit, I wanna sue someone. I think I'm going to go after Marlon Brando's estate.
― clemenza, Friday, 12 November 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Descendants of Hernan Cortez v. Neil Young & Crazy Horse
― tylerw, Friday, 12 November 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link
More seriously, what do you guys think of "Sea of Madness"? I saw the Big Sur movie on TV probably 30-35 years ago, and it always stuck in my mind; didn't get a hold of it till a couple of years ago, and then it turned up on Archives. I totally love it. The guy dancing at the fifty second mark in the clip above is great beyond words.
― clemenza, Friday, 12 November 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
love "sea of madness"! i can kind of imagine a motown version of it or something.
― tylerw, Friday, 12 November 2010 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm thinking that Neil and Carole are probably good friends...
― clemenza, Friday, November 12, 2010 10:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
Well they did write "Oh Carole" and "Oh Neil" for each other.
(Or was that Neil Sedaka and Carole Pope? Neil Peart and Carole Bayer Sager?)
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 13 November 2010 04:55 (fourteen years ago) link
It was Neil Sedaka and Carole King. :)
― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 13 November 2010 10:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Why do I love being a Neil fan? Because I can hear a song of his hundreds of times and think, "oh this is pretty good" each time, but then suddenly be completely blindsided by how amazing it really is. This happened with "What Have You Done To My Life" this morning.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, that whole s/t album is probably my big neil re-discovery of the last few years. probably pushed its way into top 5 neil albums for me, thanks to that amazing remaster.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
that was one of the first Neil albums I bought (80s CD reissue, I think?) but I just HATED the way it sounded and sold it after a couple years. have never gone back to it. maybe I should
― from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i think that's how i first heard it too. it seriously is a major, major improvement. used to sound kinda rinky dink, but now it's big and layered.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
It's crazy how much better that remaster sounds, really.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
right? the thing just sparkles now, whereas it was pretty flat sounding (even on the vinyl i have). i guess there were a bunch of weirdnesses with the mix when it originally came out.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I think having the remaster is a huge reason why the song was such a revelation for me this morning.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
hmm searching for a d/l of the remaster is kinda hard...
― from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
oh never mind, found it
the claps on cinnamon girls are blowing me away right now, like i never heard the song before
― in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, after a billion live versions, it's easy to forget how rad that song is. where did it come from? cant really think of another song from the 60s it sounds like.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
wow this really does sound quite different than I remember. the fuzz guitar tone in particular seems like it must have been difficult to capture correctly
― from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link
just to jump on the s/t remaster train, it's maybe the best remaster I can think of ("best" as in greatest improvement in sound quality, hearing it in a new way, etc)
― hot lava hair (Z S), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
just chiming in here, all the remasters sound great but the first album is like a completely new + awesome album
the fuzz attack on stuff like "I've been waiting for you" and "the loner" is flattening
― if nothing else this thread will result in some great display names (Edward III), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link
& the wide open orchestration on "old laughing lady" could be off of Bryter Later
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
the s/t seems like a template for Gene Clark's "No Other" to me now
― from the lowly milligeir to the mighty gigahongro (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, true, and it's interesting how neil could've been more of a cult-type artist along the lines of Gene Clark. Kind of similar trajectories in their early days -- Neil just had some hits (and CSNY of course) that turned him into a superstar.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link