"i just knew that she was fine... like a ticket on the dash"
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― insane drown posse (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link
His relatively progressive and gentlemanly style is contagious, too; on the soon-to-be smash "Fancy", T.I. ditches the "superficial gold-digging bitches" he once praised on songs like "Whatever You Like", instead opting for a single lady with her own BMW and Jaguar in the garage.
that's a real big "relatively" there.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link
this album seriously got a good review in pfork? or ANYWHERE? what. is going. on. with. "critics".
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link
can I just point out that American indie ppl giving the stamp of approval to a Degrassi alum isn't really all that surprising, at least not to me
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link
like he could have released a single called "I Eat Yr Baby's Entrails After Repeated Rapings" and someone would be talking about his daring satire or some shit
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
haha the review basically gives that up at the end:
As much as rap is built on artful navel-gazing, it's also founded in struggle. And just as Drake's dramatically exposed selfishness is unique to hip-hop, so are his adversities. He grew up in an affluent Toronto suburb and was graced with everything but a functional pair of parents, who split when he was three. Like Kanye West before him, Drake vies for superstardom while embracing his non-drug-dealing, non-violent, non-dire history-- one that connects with most rap fans in a completely reasonable way. And, suddenly, all that "I" turns into a lot of "we."
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link
idk what degrassi is, but nothing about this album (which i actually gave in and listened to, and most of it is actually just insipid and boring when he's not being the worst lyricist ever) really screamed indie-crit catnip like kanye does even at his worst.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link
omfgomfg who is the retard who wrote that
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i HATE people
Ryan Dombal, but we are all Canadian child actors who prove Kanye West is a horrible role model.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link
lmao @ lex
― dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Degrassi High is a Canadian television show about sad-sack high school kids and how difficult it is to be a special snowflake, which IMO panders directly to the American indie mindset and generates a lot of slack-cutting where you would least expect, like for example with Drake
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link
all the lines the review quotes, which are typical, are more objectionable to me than straight up "fuck her in the eye" misogyny.
― dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link
ryan dombal, last time i heard that name was when i had to go in on his atrocious review of the last rihanna album on some other thread. iodfsjfknkjdsdlk'\;:"::"" HATE
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I really miss the days when "the american indie mindset" was all about how disgusting a picture Unsane could put on their album cover
― insane drown posse (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link
like iirc he was virtually victim-blaming her. i assume he's always this terrible?
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link
b-b-but Drake inspired TI to give up materialistic bitches for the independently wealthy! What could be more refreshing, unexpected and progressive than that?
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link
"I wish I wasn't famous/ I wish I was still in school/ So I could have you in my dorm room/ I would put it on you crazy"
... okay really?
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link
8. I can bring em through and shut em down... ONYX
― insane drown posse (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Guys, I need to go to the emergency room
I think I SMH too hard and sprained something
But even when this Romeo starts tossing dollar bills at a strip club on "Miss Me", his ogling is somehow lonely and level: "I don't judge her but I could never love her/ 'Cause to her I'm just a rapper and soon she'll have met another."
ah if only drake could find a stripper that didn't objectify him
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link
"While all my closest friends out partyin'/ I'm just here makin' the music that they party to," he shrugs on "Light Up". Which all seems very Boy Who Cried Penthouse Suite except that Drake manages to make his plight tugging and relatable thanks to a potent mix of empathy, candidness, and grandeur.
no he doesn't, at least not when you pull shit out of context (and I highly doubt that in context it's any more sympathetic either; it's not like Kanye's "Welcome To Heartbreak" that are full of similar douchebaggery but totals up to "I have all of this shit and still suspect I'm a superficial fraud")
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link
his triangulation of sensitive and braggin' tropes is so dull and plodding idk how a critic can praise it, nor how guys can relate & girls find it dreamy, since the personality painted is smirking sneaky hypocritical douchebag.
― dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link
ugh "are" should be "is"; point being Kanye > Drake, no matter how much Kanye may suck at times
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link
And, largely thanks to sonic co-conspirators Noah "40" Shebib and Boi-1da, Thank Me Later is held together by misty keyboards and dank drums that recall everyone from Sade to Boards of Canada to Massive Attack to the xx (who are thanked in the record's liner notes).
attn Lex: aside from the Degrassi thing, here's the other reason why dude spooged all over this album
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link
omg I just got to the T.I. part
lolololololol
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Drake is the guy you get drinks with who talks about himself for a few hours-- if you're lucky, he might ask you for advice on one or two things. But this is OK because Drake's stories are better than yours. Like the one about how Lil Wayne befriended and signed him at the height of Weezy's powers. Or how he got with Rihanna last year. Or that time he flashed from a Toronto has-been to a top-flight hit maker off the strength of a self-released mixtape. Of course, there's the classic about sipping a few too many glasses of Ace of Spades and asking Nicki Minaj to marry him. Sounds like a sweet existence.
This is a very telling paragraph.
― da croupier, Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:16 AM (20 minutes ago)
this is like when people defend dane cook
― fman29.5 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link
just as Drake's dramatically exposed selfishness is unique to hip-hop
HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD AN EMCEE BEFORE
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link
ahahahahaha
― insane drown posse (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link
idk how a critic can praise it, nor how guys can relate & girls find it dreamy, since the personality painted is smirking sneaky hypocritical douchebag.
pretty sure the ladies find drake dreamy for the same reason they found rick springfield dreamy. and as for why guys want to identify with a smirking sneaky hypocritical douchebag, well...
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link
grandeur
GRANDEUR?
are you fucking shitting me. only grandeur drake's familiar with is the empty void where wit and humour and substance and likability should be on this record
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link
naw he's saying selfishness is found in hip hop more than elsewhere
― dat nigga del griffith (zvookster), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link
ha okay I misread that bit that made me incensed but the part that follows which was quoted upthread that basically says "woe is Drake, he grew up a television star in suburbia" makes the part I yelled about completely incomprehensible; pretty sure that whining about being privileged is neither unique to hip-hop nor pervasive through hip-hop
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link
you guys are making me want to actually read the review instead of just watch people freak out about the number score on other msg boards
― insane drown posse (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link
well between excerpts the entire thing is pretty much posted on this thread
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i didn't think pfork still had reviews as soul-baring as this one
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Drake's stories are better than yours
i feel sorry for ryan dombal suddenly
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
damn right, they're better than yours(, Ryan)
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link
haha tempted to run with the Rick Springfield 2k10 line to describe Drake but afraid that would be unfair to "Jessie's Girl"
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link
well in 2010 famous friends are worth more than having at least one great song
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link
this is seriously some bullshit
― hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link
like people can relate to drake because hes not from the hood or hes been on tv since he was a kid?
― hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link
wonder what Ryan would have given He's The DJ I'm The Rapper back in the day, or was it too low on grandeur
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:52 (fourteen years ago) link
is it okay if i just hate this album without listening to it and save myself some time? Agreed?
― I have been forks-style since day one (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link
agreed. did the same thing with the blueprint 3 and it worked out great
― hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
well the big difference is that He's the DJ, I'm the Rapper actually WAS a wholly relatable album of suburban-friendly narrative rather than ungrateful, repellent narcissism, so likely it would have been dismissed for being fake and cheesy
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
haha totally, which is kinda what i meant by "low on grandeur"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
otm otm otm xp
― hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
He's The DJ I'm The Rapper is also A FUCKING RAP ALBUM
― peabo bison (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link