MTV - classic or dud?

no more leftfield animation. no more unattractive presenters who were actually there because they loved music/music video. no more creative initiatives designed to inspire/enlighten the viewer, only creative initiatives to make money (Blingo or whatever). hell i wouldn't mind if they actually promised to play at least 6 music videos an hour but they don't even do that.

So you don't watch that either, ha!

(Okeh, that was more than two years ago anyway)

Right now, my daughter's glued to the telly, watching the MTV Movie Awards. On MTV Nordic. On the cable. And it's due to the children occasionally switching it on that I get to see/hear any MTV at all, basically. ...Dud-o-drome, from what I've seen.

http://img201.exs.cx/img201/1826/mtv24oh.jpg

Inside the giant factory of cool known as MTV headquarters, a crew of hip twentysomethings has been hard at work creating a two-headed monster. This beast wants to be man's new best friend.

On Sunday, during the Super Bowl halftime, MTV2 is relaunching with a new focus on 12-24 year-old guys - and a new logo.

"What MTV2 is, while a departure from MTV, is really harkening back to the early days of MTV," says Tina Exarhos, executive vice president of marketing.

The network recognizes that their young-guy demographic are, as Cohn says, "operating on multiple platforms" - not just television, but the Web and video games - sometimes simultaneously. For example, after the show "Discover & Download" premiered with the Senegal-born R&B singer Akon, thousands of downloads immediately followed.

The channel is renewing a tradition of unveiling a new video every Tuesday, and running it at least 16 times that day. The first premiere will be Green Day's next single.

"We want Green Day to be a kind of house band for MTV2, the way people feel about MTV being the Eminem Network," says Tom Calderon, executive vice president of talent and music.

If you live or work in New York area, then you may have seen ads running for the past month featuring two-headed dogs and lines such as "GOES COMMANDO," although the spelling of the words looks more like GO ES COMM AN DO. These teaser campaign gave no clue as to what they meant, but referred the curious to a website featuring a "trick du jour" and promoting visitors to "sniff around."

The logo redesign began about nine months ago when MTV Networks decided to give MTV2 a new identity to differentiate it from MTV. MTV2 also made a large Internet buy on gaming Web sites and handed out two-headed dog hats, t-shirts, and sweatshirts in the New York area.

oh, so they make refrigerators!

1000% dud these days. It's actually sad how it really doesn't have ANY redeeming qualities left. Cynicism aside, it really did used to.

I do swear that MTV was actually pretty good once -- I don't think it's just because I'm older. Not only was the music better (especially with shows like AMP and 120 minutes) but even the early Real World casts were much more interesting than the ones now.

eurgh what a horrible idea. no video should be played that much in one day, esp. not when it's by fucking Green Day

this guy has no business doing this job

the quotes in that nypost article about kids liking indie rock music are refreshingly? disturbingly? transparent and weird.

In the mid to late 80's, wasn't there a radio station that simulcast the audio from MTV? Possibly broadcast out of NYC? I think the commercials might have been different, but the music videos played the same time so that you could listen along on the radio while watching... Unless my memory is crazy and this is totally not true at all.

Apparently I was featured on MTV.com in 2003 (yes... I know... amazing):

http://web.archive.org/web/20030823200614/http://www.mtv.com/news/youtellus/topics/non_artist_topics/death_of_the_lp/082103.jhtml

MTV NEWS: YOU TELL US

Arguing Over The Album

Think back, for just a minute, to Nirvana's Nevermind — would it still be such a classic with the exclusion of half (or more) of its twelve timeless cuts? How about Radiohead's OK Computer? Would it even be worthy of its unanimous critical acclaim if reduced to "Paranoid Android" and a few outtakes? Now look at Tool's Lateralus. Although radio single "Schism" was one of its weakest tracks, the emotional depth and impact of the entire album left no listener unchanged in the wake of its perfection. Without the album format, what's left for the incredible artists who have a knack for writing timeless full-length works?

Stephen, 18
Austin, TX

hahaha awesome

A++

Although radio single "Schism" was one of its weakest tracks, the emotional depth and impact of the entire album left no listener unchanged in the wake of its perfection.

loooooool

I totally could have been a Pfork writer in 2003, amirite?

you said the same thing word for word about Fleet Foxes the other week

:'(

^^ me crying while listening to Robin Pecknold's voice... the voice of a beautiful angel.

is stephen ilxor really older than me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mOhv63gSNQ

more here - http://www.urlesque.com/2010/08/20/90s-mtv-commercials/

You tell me... how old are you, Rev?

xp

24

Yup, I got a year on ya Rev.

VH1 Classic is showing awesome 80's and 90's MTV clips all weekend... shockingly uncut and without commentary. Just clips. I'm enjoying it.

"Clips" meaning non-videos... they just showed Redman on Cribs.

Watchin Biggie on the Grind Beach Party with Eric Nies, just watched Puck vs. Pedro. Really enjoying this tbh.

OMG lol 90s

taping all 12 hours of this tbh

think i'm od'ing on 90s nostalgia, need to sit down a minute here whoa

hey chris can i come over and watch HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS

This compilation of every 80s contest/giveaway is incredible!
Quiet Riot spends Christmas at your house!
Motley Cruise to nowhere!
Bon Jovi Jamaican holiday!
I don't even remember the Jon Cryer movie Hiding Out, but apparently they gave away an 87 Maserati as part of a prize package promotion.

hey chris can i come over and watch HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS

― maura, Saturday, July 30, 2011 5:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol, i emailed u the press release like three weeks ago and we had a conversation abt it.

taping all 12 hours of this tbh

I wish it was longer than 12 hours tbh.

It's refreshing to see these clips presented unedited and in random order, as opposed to some kind of "countdown" with a lame host, or without any lame commentary or interruptions from VJ's. This is the best way to re-air this stuff.. Some of these choices are so strange and unexpected... not typically the stuff that was shown on previous "Best of MTV" celebrations from 10-15 years ago. This is way better IMO.

Why aren't more people watching this? I figured ILM would love it.

When it was released on BlueRay, they had to replace it with a generic bossanova.

Oh man, Steven Tyler is destroying all of my images of the rock and roll industry. I thought all this stuff was taught to up-and-coming rockstars by Yo La Tengo and David Cross.

those armageddon residuals are really working out for you, huh

well that's the thing about mechanicals! they're gonna sell a lot of the Armageddon soundtrack; they want five 'smith tracks including "Sweet Emotion," a proven seller? kick ass, people, let's fuckin EAT: you're printing up a million copies because it's 1998 and we're all gonna be rich and successful forever, this business is bulletproof, the compulsory mechanical rate's 7.10 cents or 1.35 cents/min, that's 7.10 x 1,000,000 x5 (or maybe four, I forget if mechanicals are different for cover versions), you do that math, it means I Am Steven Tyler And I Get Money. didn't even have to get out of bed for that one iirc. waiter! my oysters!

idk about this though because I assume that the re-recorded versions would also need some paperwork done.)

― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, August 2, 2011 10:09 AM (24 minutes ago)

re-recordings are for-hire deals so there's no need to negotiate, the standard compulsory license for covers takes care of the original rights owners

They used to do that on sitcoms in the 80s a lot.

What was the show with the twins? I remember they had a fake Bryan Adams "Run to You" playing and the girls were all "I love this song!"

There had to have been a point to that.

saw the fist hour of MTV stuff last nite, so cuet

forget about the song "little suzy's on the up" <3

they were really pushing stereo as a big new innovation

it's weird how you forget how close the early 80s were to the 70s, like before madonna's iconic "like a virgin" mtv awards performance dan akroyd introduces her with his tom synder impression

Apparently jumpsuits were very popular in 1981.

saw the fist hour of MTV stuff last nite

man, strongo was right, they really can get away with a lot these days!

it's weird how you forget how close the early 80s were to the 70s, like before madonna's iconic "like a virgin" mtv awards performance dan akroyd introduces her with his tom synder impression

I thought the same thing!!!

also a noticably wasted ronnie wood mugging behind david lee roth's acceptance speech for jump was funny.

there was a performance clip of styx doing "rockin' the paradise" that was literally the dorkiest thing i'd ever seen, man i can't believe that band was popular with kids

I liked that jangly Byrdsy song with a dumbass video about the end of a relationship.

As a kid, we went to the condo of one of my mom's friends. It was the first time my step-dad had seen MTV and he was just aghast that people paid for cable and still had to watch commercials.

dude was waaaay ahead of the curve when it came to entitled people and their staggering incredulity about paying money for content

should have saved that zing for when it followed

I liked that jangly Byrdsy song with a dumbass video about the end of a relationship.

― Trip Maker, Tuesday, August 2, 2011 10:35 AM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

trip maker - yeah! robin lane and the chartbusters, that was great, never heard of that band ever

http://www.mtv.com/videos/robin-lane-the-chartbusters/98184/when-things-go-wrong.jhtml

I think I still have a VHS copy of the MTV Awards with the MJ kiss somewhere. That was also the one where Sandra Bullock was presenting with someone (I want to say Adam Sandler) and she misread the cue on the teleprompter and asked Adam what it was like to kiss Keanu Reeves. He handlded it pretty well and riffed about how safe he felt in Keanu's arms.

Something about this moment seemed staged to me... In a good way.

probably in that it was completely scripted

i just said that

No repeats of the Jenny McCarthy Show though.

Probably because it was fucking awful and no one wants to see it.

it's weird how you forget how close the early 80s were to the 70s, like before madonna's iconic "like a virgin" mtv awards performance dan akroyd introduces her with his tom synder impression

sorta like how now is pretty much still the 00's

Probably because it was fucking awful and no one wants to see it.

Wasn't really the standard VH1 was using in showing some of those old clips.

They played "Get Next To Jenny" from Spring Break :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ysyZF-DZFY&list=UUFRDjnACLA5vWxxLCC7elVQ&index=1&feature=plcp

but MTV plays music videos
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/AMTV.png

http://www.splicetoday.com/pop-culture/life-as-art

Michael Jordan tried to make Kennedy's virginity the stakes in a dice game, apparently:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/chi-mj-dice-kennedy-virginitiy-20130702,0,6933007.story

filet

https://archive.org/details/mtv-80s-vhs-full-recording-collection/

ahhh just came here to post that - so good

i was reading a piece on "the marshall mathers LP" when the author mentioned this program. i don't think i've thought about it once in 20 years. it was like being teleported back to being 9 years old and watching cable in my friend's basement. sort of nauseating tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o7AEb5agrc

When that would come on (after Beavis & Butt-head or Daria), I couldn’t change the channel fast enough.

(I was 19, not 9, but same diff)

otm

Oh god, so that led me down the rabbit hole of discovering The Wondergirls, a "supergroup" that was assembled for the Celebrity Deathmatch soundtrack (which I also had no idea existed).

Get a load of this lineup!

Ken Andrews (Failure) – guitar, synth
Ian Astbury (The Cult) – vocals, guitar, harmonica, percussion
Doug Ardito (Puddle of Mudd) – keyboards
Jay Gordon (Orgy) – vocals, synth
Martyn LeNoble (Porno for Pyros) – bass guitar
Shannon Leto (30 Seconds to Mars) – drums
Mark McGrath (Sugar Ray) – vocals
Ryan Shuck (Orgy) – guitar
Troy Van Leeuwen (A Perfect Circle/QOTSA) – guitar
Scott Weiland (STP) – vocals, keyboards
Ashley Hamilton (actor, known for Beethoven's 2nd) - vocals
Chris Lloyd (???) - guitar

MTV is going to hell for this pic.twitter.com/m4CWniQiIT

— N. (@nahalidabarbie) February 5, 2021