Sonic Youth: Classic or Dud/S&D?

I thought this would be about the Daydream Nation Deluxe cd that leaked yesterday.

Other songs I would include as tuneful, well-composed SY tunes (sometimes maybe a bit on the proggy side of SY as opposed to the 'pop' side):
"Candle"
"Dirty Boots"
"Disappearer"
"Wish Fulfillment"
maybe "Disconnection Notice"
"New Hampshire"

(By and large, though, there's not usually a whole lot going on melodically, which may be what emsk's friend is getting at. They have tunes but they're usually very basic ones.)

I made a similar comp for Dominique Leone but I never sent it to him, it went:

1. Intro
2. Teenage Riot
3. Schizophrenia
4. Tom Violence
5. Star Power
6. Eric's Trip
7. Dissapear
8. The Sprawl
9. Candle
10. Mote
11. Shadow of a Doubt
12. Sugar Kane
13. Wish Fulfillment
14. Pacific Coast Highway
15. Cotton Crown
16. Xpressway to yr Skull

basically the most hummable numbers from the 86-91 or so period. And anyone who says they don't write catchy singable songs to me will have to hear some of my singing, and it usually starts with "I went away, to see an old friend of mine..."

I like your comp a lot.

"Green Light" is another song I love that hardly anyone mentions.

I didn't mean for the mix to be a "Sonic Youth goes pop" mix per se, just a good intro to the band for someone who hadn't heard much of them before. By and large, that tended to be pop-oriented stuff.

I did almost put "Star Power" on there, though.

Daydream Nation live next month: SO EXCITED YOU GUYS.

Expressway To Your Skull

Shadow of A Doubt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSc8957FoSQ

Expressway to Yr Skull

or Madonna, Sean and Me

best song ever, especially on vinly, because it goes on forever.

starfield road

Their first EP is an absolute monument in post-punk worthy of rubbing shoulders with PIL in my opinion.

Yes! I feel like one of those arbitrary revisionists who always piss me off, but I swear that first EP is, in hindsight, the best thing they ever did.

worthy of rubbing shoulders with PIL

Glad I've never heard it then.

Shadow of A Doubt:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSc8957FoSQ

cool, never seen that before. that's one of my favorite sy tracks

so, um, SYR 7 ???

Saw it on vinyl the other day, 1 song on each side. Anybody heard it?

bump, dammit.

>>I made a similar comp for Dominique Leone but I never sent it to him, it went:

1. Intro
2. Teenage Riot
3. Schizophrenia
4. Tom Violence
5. Star Power
6. Eric's Trip
7. Dissapear
8. The Sprawl
9. Candle
10. Mote
11. Shadow of a Doubt
12. Sugar Kane
13. Wish Fulfillment
14. Pacific Coast Highway
15. Cotton Crown
16. Xpressway to yr Skull<<

wow this is grebt..

>basically the most hummable numbers

but i thought Juno said they were JUST NOIZE!???

I don't think I'd describe 5 out of the 8? minutes of Mote as hummable actually

you can hum whatever you want! win win!

so, um, SYR 7 ???

I haven't heard the music yet, but I like the sleeve:

"Thurston Moore. Goodbye 20th Century, Goodbye Talent."

http://www.saucerlike.com/articles.php?x=display&id=14

Thank you.

Battery Park show broadcasting live on WFMU right now :D

just started, they're on their first song

This is awesome! Thanks for the tip.

no prob, I was stuck at work just a few blocks away from where they were playing! so I was glad I got to listen to it

I wonder why they didn't broadcast the Feelies ... ?

oh shit they're broadcasting...now???

okay what link am I supposed to click on? You guys are holding out.

Is this the right link? What do I do when I get here?
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2008/06/reminder-sonic.html

Help please thanx

(1 hour ago)

it's over now, it was from about 5 to 6:15

I'm sure they'll archive it but it probably won't be up right away

the concert was INCREDIBLE! and with Mark Ibold on bass? I'd neven seen them live, and I was gobsmacked. Thurston was amusing too - when Kim forgot the words - "she's injecting the lyrics now". When he friend a guitar cable - "we need bluetooth up in this piece".

One thing's for sure though: Moore is enjoying the relative freedom that comes with a return to indie-dom. "It feels great," he told Rock & Roll Daily. "The last four or five records we did were just so compromised by that [major label] situation. But that's the way it goes."

asshole. Those last three records, at least, were fantastic. But I guess that was just because the major label made them do it.

I don't think he's saying they aren't good records.

I agree, but I still wonder what he means by compromised. Obviously Geffen is not forcing them to make records with big radio singles.

I get that, but what's he mean by saying they were "compromised"? xp lol

who did they sign with?

article is coy (decision isn't public yet), but suggests either Domino or Matador

Where's this article?

pitchfork lol

Yeah, aside from Rather Ripped's much shorter song running times, I'm really at a loss on what the label might've leaned on them to do on the last 4 albums, especially compared to the pressure the band was likely under circa Dirty. I always just figured, they have so many outlets for instrumental and/or abrasive noisy stuff with the SYR series and all those side projects that the proper albums were the way they were by choice.

I think this means he wants the next one to sound like Bull Tongue.

Maybe he just means the experience of having to work with a major label took some of the fun out of releasing those albums.

What a fucktard. Sonic Youth are easily the most out-there band signed to a major these days.

maybe it is you who are the fucktard

If Moore thinks A Thousand Leaves, Sonic Nurse, Murray Street, and Rather Ripped are "compromised," then more artists should cut deals with major labels this cutthroat.

Actually the key example here is NYC Ghosts & Flowers surely. I suspect Dan is right - perhaps it was things like being locked into a particular release time, or having to meet with major label publicists, or not having any control over their album-promotion etc. etc.

i was under the impression the band chose to release all of their last 5 albums in May or June on purpose to do tour/promo in the summer while their kids weren't in school.

so changing the subject, is SYR 7: J'Accuse/Ted Hughes going to get a CD release? I don't mind downloading a vinyl rip, but my numerology/OCD complex with the SYR series is now totally misaligned with the latest SYR 8 CD! FUCK! HELP!