neil young

Consensus aropund these parts on that album?

I noticed the curious product placement too, Tal. There's an interesting thread here devoted to Landing on Water.

no "none of the above"????

just snuck in a vote for tonight's the night. right in the nick of time.

emotion of the less contained and calculated variety

me for tonights the night, too. its so close though - there are better songs on zuma and everybody knows, and almost enough to give the nod to one of them, but TTN takes it

Yeah, Tonight's The Night would be my second or third and very close.

Rust Never Sleeps by a hair, for side one and Powderfinger alone (though nearly sunk by Welfare Mothers).

Oh c'mon, Welfare Mothers is great! My favorite Neil Young throwaway.

DIVORCEE

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

a 3-way tie this time then.

Fair result.

Wait. Zuma should've been much higher, though.

c'est vrai

Someone voted for Everybody's Rockin' again.

One vote for "Zuma"! No way!! This poll is corrupt!!!

"On the Beach" - there's an ILM album if ever there was one

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.

So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.

I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:

How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".

Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.

When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."

And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.

Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"

On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now

hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.

i will never learn the ilm html tags...

weird

it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles

In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.

CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.

Dead Man = Neil's best electric work?

look at the bill for this thing
http://www.vancouver2010.com/more-2010-information/cultural-festivals-and-events/event-listings/hal-willner's-neil-young-project-_70660zv.html

I'm assuming thats a different Chris Brown, otherwise o_O

yeah, probably?
a mix of eh, cool! and whaaaa?
Sam Beam of Iron & Wine
Chris Brown
Vashti Bunyan
Robert Burger
Brendan Canning
Fred Cash
Jason Collett
Julie Doiron
Kevin Drew
Sam Goldberg
Shahzad Ismaily
Eric Mingus
Sun Kil Moon
Jenni Muldaur
Ambrosia Parsley
Justin Peroff
Ben Perowsky
Joan as Policewoman
Elizabeth Powell
Bill Priddle
Lou Reed
Alasdair Roberts
Ron Sexsmith
Teddy Thompson
James Blood Ulmer
Andrew Whiteman
Doug Wieselman

hoping for a mingus/blood ulmer/reed jam on down by the river

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j//msnbc/Components/Video/071107/tdy_chrisbrown_song3_071107.vmodv4.jpg

A MAAAAAAAAAID

Yeah, some good names on there and some wtf ones as well. I scanned it quickly the first time and saw "Bill Priddle" as "Mark Prindle".

http://celeb.wohoo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/chris-brown.jpg
can i get a heart of gooooold?

IT'S THE WOMAN IN YOU THAT MAKES YOU WANNA PLAY THIS GAAAAAME!

TAKE IT, ULMER!

haha

wish they would substitute teddy thompson for richard thompson

Neil Young and Bert Jansch, May 24 at DAR Constitution Hall ($83.50-$193.50)

Don't think I want to spend that much to see him on this solo tour.

great bill tho

man i would love to see bert jansch

Neil has always been at the vanguard of steep ticket prices.

geez that is a ridiculous ticket price

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8nveweVvh0

there is a single $248 seat available at the worcester mass show

thank god I have plans that night

i didn't go see neil the last time he was in town because tix were $100 bucks ... i had just bought the archives so I had blown my neil budget for the year, really.

I missed this poll. I realize that there's no accounting for personal taste, but I do find it unsettling that somebody counts Everybody's Rockin' as his/her favourite Neil Young album.

The cheap seats here in Houston are $69 w/service charge. The big problem though is it's a frontgate event and they don't have outlets in town, so you have to either go to the venue (Jones Hall) or purchase online. According to the seating chart, I've got a nice balcony seat.

Not that I'd have voted for it but shocked that Freedom pulled a zero on this one too, esp with Trans pulling in two votes.

oooof. feels like neil should be gifting everyone who was canceled on a free year of archives subscriptions or something. and a hand-rolled joint? someone else i know flew to austin only to have lightning cancel the show.

He should let us decide what the next Archives release is

I admit I'm a little bit concerned about this, plz post any updates here

Man I would like to have a concrete update, naturally a lot of rumors flying out there without anything official to fill the vacuum.

from a facebook neil group guy: "For those just a little concerned over the lack of any news, I have heard from someone definitely in the know that in terms of the reported illness, “everything is ok and nothing serious”."

Yeah weirdly the lack of updates convinced me that it wasn't anything to be alarmed about, though obv these are some well-rode horses so it is always a concern but seems like a "no news is good news" sitch

I also drove through 3 hours of some the worst driving weather I've experienced in a long time so I trying to be philosophical about the whole deal

They just dropped a Crazy Horse & Neil version of "Look At All The Things," which is good, but loses something without those piano and arranged harmonies from the '71 CH album.

Just cancelled rest of Love Earth tour when “a couple “ of them got sick after the Detroit gig and are not recovered yet . They hope to reschedule

were set to play several shows in Canada in July and the Hollywood Bowl in late September. Now it seems those shows are no more — though the band said it is open to playing those missed dates “as time passes when we are ready to rock again.”

Show at the Gorge on July 26 , a month away is cancelled

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2024-06-27/neil-young-crazy-horse-cancel-tour-hollywood-bowl-sick

Is neil a part of the sick "couple"?

no idea — this is a bummer though! glad I bit the bullet and caught one of the earlier shows this year. hope it's not the end of the road for the horse, they sounded killer. I've seen some complaints that they were "too loose" and I've thought ... "you realize what band you're talking about here?"

this sucks so much, from literally getting turned away at the gate from the chicago show to this :(

ticketmaster promises i will probably get my money back in 30 days, lord willing

i was hoping this would be my first ny show. ah well.

If Ticketmaster doesn't call the venue. They can process the refund. (You may even be able to do this now.) I learned the hard way when Ticketmaster took back tickets to a repeatedly COVID-delayed show, only to keep the money and falsely claim they must've refunded the money since the tickets were no longer in my account. Credit card wouldn't do anything - after the window for disputes has closed, they said they could do nothing, even if I presented evidence. So I called MSG and they luckily could see EVERYTHING on their system - i.e. they voided the tickets but never sent back payment - so they processed it immediately and said next time call us, not Ticketmaster. As if I needed saying, FUCK TICKETMASTER.

*(Ticketmaster voided the tickets, not the venue)

MSG sounds awesome; who are they?

Madison Square Garden. (They also own the Beacon, Radio City Music Hall and I think a few other venues in NYC.)

Neil's forthcoming science fiction novel update: it's still forthcoming.

https://americansongwriter.com/neil-youngs-sci-fi-novel-and-his-hilarious-response-about-his-ongoing-project/

Crazy Horse - Early Daze is out today, this is some primo shit, lost CH studio album basically

Nice to hear, can't wait to play it.

great ragged vibes, the CH version of "helpless" is excellent

some of the stuff has been in the archives box sets but hearing it all together as one session everything sound very cohesive

In all honestly, I lost interest in the never-ending parade of Young releases a few years ago--I remember when every new record up till the early-'80s felt like an event--but I would buy that early Crazy Horse record. Didn't know they recorded "Helpless."

What's the story re: the CH "Helpless"? In Shakey they mention a 7-minute version that the engineer failed to record. Was that not true, or did they get another take on tape?

Yeah it's weird - maybe they did it again?

Here's the excerpt:

“Young and the Horse cut “Everybody’s Alone,” “Oh Lonesome Me,” “Wonderin’,” “I Believe in You,” “Birds,” an exquisite version of Whitten’s “Look at All the Things,” as well as an epic ballad called “Helpless” that failed to make it to tape. “We were doing it live, everybody playing and singing at once, and we did about an eight- or nine-minute version of it … with a long instrumental in the middle,” Young told writer Jean-Charles Costa. “And the engineer didn’t press the button down. It was much more free than anything I’ve done onstage.”

Any way, Early Daze is excellent, I'm definitely getting it. I've grown to welcome all of these Neil Young releases because for me they simply replaced what generally happens in unofficial channels, and it's not like I complained when I was a hardcore Dylan collector finding "new" bootlegs every week. They're not for everybody and even diehard fans should be discerning enough not to want everything (just as I never bothered with a good number of Dylan bootlegs/archival releases), but I'm glad it's just out there in the best quality possible. FWIW, I gave Fuckin' Up a chance and I thought it was surprisingly good. I didn't realize it was actually a recording of a private concert he did, and in a way it kind of reflects that appeal - it's a one-off that I'm glad I heard (if not witnessed). I'm not sure if I'll ever get a copy, but I'm glad I gave it a good listen all the way through.

this is not that version of "helpless", it's probably an earlier take – it's about 4 minutes. not mindblowing, but pretty nice!

Early Daze is great but it all should've been on Archives Vol 1 ... it basically took Neil 20 years to put together a deluxe edition of Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere. But now we can cobble that together ourselves!

neil is definitely frustrating with how he does stuff but i'm trying to just kick back with it and listen to it as a record and i think as a set of songs it's a great listening experience

it's funny - i'm semi-passable at playing a couple of his tunes. then i went to a recent open-mic and watched someone turf out doing "powderfinger" on acoustic and thought "nope, i'm not ready yet."