Nicolas Jaar: I was a Teenage Villalobos

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My point being that it is impossible for indie kids to sleep on it, now.

Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Friday, 18 February 2011 06:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah sorry mcoll, thought you were being dancist. Personally think the more discerning indie contingent need jaar in their lives right now and I'm not too surprised they're lapping up the new album, given its abstractions and quirks. But hey, no problem with that. Is it daft to ask whether jaar or Blake could become the new Richard d james? ie dance maverick releases art album gets adopted by indies and guardian supplement readers etc?

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 08:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Stupid question imo.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 09:59 (thirteen years ago) link

We already have one Burial.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I know your opinion Matt; I wasn't asking you

;-)

xpost Burial though? Seriously?

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Even the average Burial fan has little idea of who he actually is/what he looks like. Good as his work is, I don't think he has the personality nor the eclecticism to compete as a modern-day Aphex in terms of impact upon the wider world like James did.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Is it daft to ask whether jaar or Blake could become the new Richard d james? ie dance maverick releases art album gets adopted by indies and guardian supplement readers etc?

― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 08:59 (1 hour ago)

never change, dog latin ;)

roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Well you didn't mention looks or personality in your initial criteria. I don't know what an "art album" or for that matter a "dance maverick" but it's not like there's been a hole where the dance producer who indie listeners and Guardian supplements like should be. That's obviously been Burial for a couple of years at least. It doesn't matter whether such a producer exists anyway, apart from making a certain type of dance listener feel good about themselves.

I'm liking this album a lot more now I've been listening to it on headphones, in a lot of ways his production style feels more Geoff Barrow than Villalobos - more crackly, soundtracky. In two minds about the Fabric gig though, this music just doesn't feel like it would be that interesting in a live setting with a live band.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah sorry mcoll, thought you were being dancist. Personally think the more discerning indie contingent need jaar in their lives right now and I'm not too surprised they're lapping up the new album, given its abstractions and quirks. But hey, no problem with that. Is it daft to ask whether jaar or Blake could become the new Richard d james? ie dance maverick releases art album gets adopted by indies and guardian supplement readers etc?

― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, February 18, 2011 8:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

posts very much in character.

in a lot of ways his production style feels more Geoff Barrow than Villalobos

would have never made this connection myself but it is v. otm.

Tim F, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:12 (thirteen years ago) link

so pissed off that nicolas jaar and taylor swift are playing london on the same night

NO ONE ELSE UNDERSTANDS THE DISTRESS THAT THIS CAUSES ME :( :( :(

lex pretend, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:14 (thirteen years ago) link

i saw him at the subclub and it was ok. definitely not worth going out of your way or paying a hefty door fee for but perfectly fine. i was more into it then most people there though, it seemed.

jed_, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:17 (thirteen years ago) link

but yes he is v pretty

jed_, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:18 (thirteen years ago) link

or "a total ride" as my friend kept saying.

jed_, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't like Taylor Swift but I'd go and see her if I were you, it'll almost certainly be a good gig whereas Jaar could go either way. And you'll almost certainly have like 20 opportunities to see Nicolas Jaar in London in the next couple of years.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Definitely a headphones album. Sounds like an art installation on regular speakers. Personally, I'm kind of hyped for the Fabric set to be honest. I don't think he'll let us down.

Apologies to Matt upthread - I was kind of sleepy on the train into work and just having a brainshit into my iphone.

Although, y'know I think there's something to be said for people like Blake and Jaar having, what Tim F I think called, "the Aphex Twin factor" on the Blake thread. That is: A solid dance background; A flexible approach to making music that is apparent from release to release; A tangible image that people can latch on to (helps that both Jaar and Blake are good-looking, James not so much); Certain arty (but not art-school) tendencies (I see "Space Is Only Noise" as a kind of SAWII, while the earlier singles are Jaar's Analogue Bubblebaths); the ability to crossover from 'proper' dance to indie dance to middlebrow media without pandering to a mainstream or compromising their initial values... Just saying I see quite a few parallels, so I'm not surprised Pitchfork are giving this the thumbs up.

chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link

or "a total ride" as my friend kept saying.

― jed_, Friday, February 18, 2011 10:18 AM (22 minutes ago)

lol where is ur friend from?

plax (ico), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:43 (thirteen years ago) link

whether or not jaar crosses over to indie kids = least interesting thing about him

lex pretend, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link

plax, glasgow!

jed_, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

oh ok cos this is a totally irish thing to say, i never heard anybody not from ireland say that

plax (ico), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyway, Aphex Twin occupies a unique position in dance music history that's connected to the time at which he emerged as much as his music and personality. There'll never be another Aphex Twin in the same way there won't be another Beatles.

Matt DC, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago) link

it's quite a glasgow thing too, i think.

jed_, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago) link

xp

jed_, Friday, 18 February 2011 10:51 (thirteen years ago) link

u better not be lying bc im gonna say that in a knowitall way sometime in future and i need that info to be accurate.

plax (ico), Friday, 18 February 2011 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link

straight up, you can say that to any glaswegian even pensioners.

jed_, Friday, 18 February 2011 11:02 (thirteen years ago) link

fyi plaxico lives in london now.

gr8080, Friday, 18 February 2011 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link

can't remember where u live

plax (ico), Friday, 18 February 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link

fyi honolulu.

gr8080, Friday, 18 February 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link

photos or it didn't happen

seminal fuiud (NickB), Friday, 18 February 2011 13:05 (thirteen years ago) link

gr80 p sure u have never mentioned that before u r hella mysterious!

plax (ico), Friday, 18 February 2011 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I interviewed him for BurningAmbulance.com. Link.

that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 18 February 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

here's his podcast for xlr8r

http://www.xlr8r.com/podcast/2011/02/nicolas-jaar

erschloraque, Friday, 18 February 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh I just realised that unperson wasn't linking to a gr8080 interview.

Tim F, Friday, 18 February 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Hahah

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 February 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

i'm psyched for this! The opening times say 8pm-1am. Anyone know any more details than this, as I need to make sure I get me last train back. Are there other acts playing?

ford lopatin (dog latin), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Wish I was going, but an old friend is in town that night, and I'd feel harsh about missing out on seeing them.

I imagine the live set up will be great and a psyched crowd will really add to it.

that said, I've only seen bands on a Fabric night and not as a concert venue.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

If the venue's open til 1am I would assume he'll be playing until 1 - according to the Fabric website there's a support act but dunno who. If you need to leave at, say, 11 for your last train you run the risk of missing the whole thing.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

finally listened to this record a couple times. it's interesting, appealingly casual, and sometimes gets to a pretty awesome place mood-wise, but it's just not very, i don't know, satisfying?

adult music person (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Last train's at 1:36. I hope he's not playing til 1, on a Wednesday that's pretty late for people living outside of Zone 1.

ford lopatin (dog latin), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

He'll play 10 / 10:30 till 12, anyone in London who plays after 12ish and doesnt expect the entire crowd to leave for the last tube is an idiot,

There will most likely be a dj till 12 for people to dance to after the live stuff..

That said, if anyone is going to play late & loud, it would be at Fabric.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Carsten Kleimann's on first.

I'll be going on my jack if anyone fancies meeting up, just bell me - oh double seven three nine eight four double oh three nine.

ford lopatin (dog latin), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i left the house before this was bumped! i wasn't sure i was gonna make it until i did though, due to having to leg it over from taylor swift at the O2 - got to fabric at 11, enough time for a good portion of his set. which was rather amazing. "el bandido"!!!! everything sounded HUGE on the fabric system. live band worked really well, loved the drum rolls and the SAXOPHONIST <3

lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link

jealous...

misty sensorium (Plasmon), Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah it ruled. I turned up right at the beginning an hung around like Gary no pals for two hours, then I had to leave at the end of bandido cos I was worried about missing the train (plus it was ridiculously crowded, maybe the promoters had underestimated the popularity of the night?). Did I miss much after el bandido? What I found impressive was how the little nuances of tracks off the album suddenly became hugely catchy earworms live. And yes the band were incredible. The drummer has a real flair for jiggedy beats. The sax was something else too.

ford lopatin (dog latin), Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link

haha fabric is always rammed, ugh @ that place. even more so for gigs as far as i can tell, last gig i saw there was ryan leslie on a monday and it was heaving :(

lex pretend, Thursday, 31 March 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

one imagines it gets extra-rammed for gigs because the total capacity of the club is tryin to fit into one room?

Neo Tony (sic), Thursday, 31 March 2011 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ "Gary no pals"

jealous of anyone who's gotten to hear a good set on Fabric's system

gr8080, Thursday, 31 March 2011 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I would have loved to see this.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 31 March 2011 09:14 (thirteen years ago) link

They should really keep the live acts in Room 2 - Room 1 just isn't very well set-up for watching someone on a stage.

Matt DC, Thursday, 31 March 2011 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link

But it's got the boomin system.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 31 March 2011 11:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm at the bbc maida vale studios now waiting for his session to begin!

lex pretend, Thursday, 31 March 2011 11:42 (thirteen years ago) link


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