can someone show me a NEW shoegaze band

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Trouble with "shoegazer" is that it was so of-it's-time that anyone trying to re-create it - modern spin or not - end up being a complete revivalist band.

I think most bands these days that are labelled "shoegazer" would be better suited to "slowcore" or "dream-pop" labels.

Labelling is wrong.

Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 13 December 2003 20:24 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe labeling is wrong. My personal view is to call Coldplay a shoegaze act. How the fuck is calling something slow core or dream-pop going to change a thing. This is an atmospheric aesthetic. Call it whatever you want. You know when you are there.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 20:45 (twenty years ago) link

You just said the C word.

Aaron W (Aaron W), Saturday, 13 December 2003 20:54 (twenty years ago) link

ooop..I wasn't supposed to cuss.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link

"Maybe labeling is wrong. My personal view is to call Coldplay a shoegaze act. How the fuck is calling something slow core or dream-pop going to change a thing. This is an atmospheric aesthetic. Call it whatever you want. You know when you are there."

Coldplay have certainly been influenced by Catherine Wheel, My Bloody Valentine and other bands like that, but that's not to say they're a shoegazer band.

I guess this is a semantical debate. Shoegazer, to me, isn't about an "atmospheric aesthetic", it's much more specific than that.

Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 13 December 2003 22:29 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks to the guy who called this a stupid thread for pointing me to Clairecords and for the shoegazer web ring.

I declare 2004 the year of the Shoegaze. I'm chinese for sake of argument. With all the discussion around here about it in the last month or so I feel Congress will agree.

A firecracker parade will follow.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 22:44 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.masstransfer.net

Nihilist Pop Star (mjt), Saturday, 13 December 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

MT..what should I be looking at masstransfer?

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 22:56 (twenty years ago) link

man i was drunk last night so don't take the stupid stuff personally

this thread is good now

the surface noise (electricsound), Saturday, 13 December 2003 22:57 (twenty years ago) link

And what is the dream-pop schtick? Kylie Minogue? Current 93 doing CrowleyMass? Coil doing Tainted Love in a less cabaret-type style?

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:09 (twenty years ago) link

Some of Joy Zipper's stuff is shoe-gazery and some isn't. Conveniently, I have the most MBV sounding track up on my blog right now. The song is Baby You Should Know (go to the Friday 12/5 entry) and I like it a lot. Blog is www.mysticalbeast.blogspot.com and soon I'll teach myself how to post links.

dlp9001, Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:13 (twenty years ago) link

you'll thank me:

www.theearlies.com

the priest, Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:14 (twenty years ago) link

Also www.melodic.com - the new compilation of 'tracks for horses' includes some mighty fine orchestrated dream pop. worth checking out.

the priest, Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks Priest, but if you know these guys tell em' to lengthen their clips. If you can't hear a chorus on a clip then...

I will now check out melodic.com

cs appleby (cs appleby), Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:26 (twenty years ago) link

i think this thread shoudl be about wombedelia, not shoegazing. shoegazing just means lots of effects pedals and vague lyricism right? there is bound to be overlap into several other "genres".

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

MT..what should I be looking at masstransfer?

I would click the "Free Sample Issue" button on the side and see what happens.

This zine is run by Ryan Anderson who used to play with Fuxa back in the old Michigan space rock days. Each issue comes with a free cd comp that is mostly showgaze and space rock. If you are interested in that sound they are very worth picking up. Ryan keeps the prices dirt cheap, they cost $7.20 a piece and that covers the shipping.

If you do decide to pick up back issues I would recommend that you start with issue three and work your way forward. The first couple issues were a bit patchy but they got better with every following issue.

As far as bands go, I would recommend looking into Tristeza/The Album Leaf, Cerberus Shoal, Landing, Hinterland, and Tex La Homa. ESOJ's(the surface noise) and Ned's picks are both completely otm and I would have recommended them myself if they had not beaten me to the punch.

Nihilist Pop Star (mjt), Sunday, 14 December 2003 00:09 (twenty years ago) link

Shoegazer Revival - S/D

Nick Mirov (nick), Sunday, 14 December 2003 02:36 (twenty years ago) link

You might like to check out some of the cassette-only releases on the Best Kept Secret label. http://www.indiepages.com/bestkeptsecret/.

Kent Burt (lingereffect), Sunday, 14 December 2003 04:40 (twenty years ago) link

you'd probably like Readymade too.

Readymade isn't exactly new. They were sending out annoying promo stuff 6/7 years ago.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 14 December 2003 05:46 (twenty years ago) link

give me some days to digest this lot y'all.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Sunday, 14 December 2003 07:56 (twenty years ago) link

yellow6

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Sunday, 14 December 2003 08:13 (twenty years ago) link

Readymade's latest album, 'On Point and Red', is wonderful for this. Also, a Seattle band called The Melody Unit, who definitely take the dream-pop side, but are wonderful. Look into their 7-minute songs, 'April New Year' and 'Suite for Caesar', but really, their entire 'Choose Your Own Adventure' album.

derrick (derrick), Sunday, 14 December 2003 08:49 (twenty years ago) link

didnt like Yellow6 at all.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Sunday, 14 December 2003 22:57 (twenty years ago) link

neither do i to be honest, although a couple of their early singles are quite nice

the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 14 December 2003 22:58 (twenty years ago) link

the Words On Music label is leaning towards the shoegaze/dreampop thing as well. they released the excellent Fiel Garvie album

the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 14 December 2003 22:59 (twenty years ago) link

M83 is like Air in a shoegazer poncho. Even if their site keeps crashing (it has a buggy fake DOS interface) -- c'mon, you owe it to the hypnotic nerve centers to figure something out. Their Dead Cities, Red Seas, and Lost Ghosts has hit this encroaching winter for me on all levels.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 14 December 2003 23:37 (twenty years ago) link

the Words On Music label is leaning towards the shoegaze/dreampop thing as well. they released the excellent Fiel Garvie album

The Meeting Places as well...reasonable enough rotegaze.

M83, now lemme tell ya, I guess I enjoyed the album the one time I heard it, but that was six months ago and I haven't felt any need to listen again.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 December 2003 23:53 (twenty years ago) link

words on music is supposed to release that comp with a bunch of bands all covering 'outdoor miner'. i wonder when that will see the light of day. Motion Picture is pretty dull, I haven't heard anything else on the label. oh wait, i've heard Coastal and they were dreary and uninspiring.

keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 15 December 2003 00:08 (twenty years ago) link

i like Coastal and i looove Should. i'm quite keen to hear the new For Against too. quite a few of the albums on WoM are on eBay for $8 apiece brand new (it's the label owner selling them)

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 15 December 2003 00:09 (twenty years ago) link

The Ides of Space, I guess.

Everyone should hear the new For Against.

JC (JC A.), Monday, 15 December 2003 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

sydney band Tides are quite gazey, and their demo EP promises very much.

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 15 December 2003 00:29 (twenty years ago) link

did should used to be called shift? i liked them, fortunate hazel made me a tape a long time ago.

keith m (keithmcl), Monday, 15 December 2003 00:35 (twenty years ago) link

yeah that's them.

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 15 December 2003 00:45 (twenty years ago) link

suntan

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 15 December 2003 05:38 (twenty years ago) link

Ulrich Schnauss seconded - A Strangely Isolated Place is fab.

Also Trespassers William, whose cover of Ride's "Vapour Trail" is gorgeous and a fair sign of how they sound in general.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 15 December 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

Monster Movie. Former Slowdive folks. Gorgeous. "Last Night I Dreamt Something Happened" is, I think, the name of their full-length. They have a self-titled 5 track EP that is AMAZING and a split single with Dreamend that is nice too. Seek!

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Monday, 15 December 2003 17:19 (twenty years ago) link

a band called Charlene put out an extremely kick-ass s/t shoegazing record this year. They're from Boston, they opened for that heinous Mark Gardner solo tour.

dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:21 (twenty years ago) link

wussom*pow!, from san francisco, who have one album out, have a really nice twee/shoegaze crossover thing going on.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:24 (twenty years ago) link

A Northern Chorus

Michael Patrick Brady (Michael Patrick Brady), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:25 (twenty years ago) link

Holy shite, that Malory's debut album, Not Here Not Now, is nothing short of magnificent. Is it still out of print? Does anyone know if it'll be rereleased? It needs to.

desolert (desolate), Monday, 15 December 2003 19:42 (twenty years ago) link

Hot damn, I've just been listening to Chapterhouse's Pearl, and it still seems almost as lovely as when I first heard it back in '91. S'gotta be the version with Rachel Slowdive's backing vox, though. Mmm. What a babe. Hey, has anybody got a scan of that NME poster of her dressed as Rambo?

Palomino (Palomino), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:42 (twenty years ago) link

clairecords are planning to reissue Malory's debut in the new year

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:02 (twenty years ago) link

Does any remember Autohaze? Mostly released through Summershine out of Australia. More neo-rock/folk but blow me away everytime I hear Hey!

cs appleby (cs appleby), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 04:06 (twenty years ago) link

i remember them very well. released three great-to-fantastic singles and a lovely mini-album before drowning in a pit of dull Neil Youngisms.

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 04:09 (twenty years ago) link

their debut single (along with much released on Summershine) is one of melbourne's proudest moments

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 04:10 (twenty years ago) link

Thank you. They are one of my favorite bands EVER.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 04:36 (twenty years ago) link

interesting! are you familiar with the summershine catalogue in its entirety? i was in the right place at the right time and have everything jason released.

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 04:38 (twenty years ago) link

I always wanted to be more interested with the label. The few I heard I cannot really pull back into memory but I would always love to get re-aquainted. I really was a Autohaze freak. What else do you have to offer Mr. Surface?

cs appleby (cs appleby), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 04:44 (twenty years ago) link

if we're talking about australian stuff specifically, the Afterglow "fall behind" 7" is a corker (and the only good thing they ever did). all the Jupiter stuff is great (and all compiled on the "Arum" CD). anything by the Earthmen that summershine released is pretty good stuff too, although that veers into standard indierock in the later stuff.

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 04:48 (twenty years ago) link

I'll find em.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 04:54 (twenty years ago) link

there’s a new Belong album coming out . the sample tracks seem a little odd but gotta say, not on my bingo card for the year

https://belong.bandcamp.com/album/realistic-ix

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 16 May 2024 02:09 (six months ago) link

also admit that their second album continues to get regular plays 13 years later

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 16 May 2024 02:09 (six months ago) link

1) always amazes when i see release dates like 3 mos away, and while it makes sense to me roughly understanding what is supposed to happen, it still seems soooo far away, it would stress the hell out of me if i were an artist.
2) recommendation of stuff unknown to me from trusted source— another good day

well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Thursday, 16 May 2024 02:21 (six months ago) link

my kid is way into all of this now. I think i said elsewhere that duster played one of the worst sets I've ever seen a band play probably 20 years ago. It's cool they have this revival; they're headlining the Warfield in SF! that's so weird. obviously I like all of these bands and even like some of the new ones. We saw Soft Blue Shimmer at a bar in SF last week and they were really good.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 16 May 2024 03:56 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

They Are Gutting a Body of Water put out a collection of previously unreleased tracks earlier this week and they've been kicking my ass. For my money they're the most interesting band making shoegaze/adjacent music right now--doing a whole lot more than just rehashing old sounds. They incorporate electronic music in really cool and sometimes subtle ways, have a bit of a glitch thing going, and work in some breakbeats here and there. Got to see them play in NYC back in March and though it was a very short set, it was most excellent. Had almost DnB-like tracks playing through a sequencer or something in between songs played by the band.

And what's the deal with Philly? Seems to be a pretty clear thruline from Alex G-->Blue Smiley-->TAGABOW. Don't know that I'll be able to find the interviews but I seem to remember the guy from Blue Smiley calling themselves an Alex G tribute band and then another interview with the guy from TAGABOW calling themselves a Blue Smiley tribute band. But each is much more than their influences.

So, anybody else keen on these guys?

Ubiquitor, Friday, 21 June 2024 18:02 (four months ago) link

What’s the album? Doesn’t seem to ge on their bandcamp page.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 22 June 2024 00:12 (four months ago) link

swanlike (loosies 2020-2023)

It's up on spotify and youtube

Ubiquitor, Saturday, 22 June 2024 00:33 (four months ago) link

I love TAGABOW. I didn't get into "s" quite as much as Dextiny XL, but I agree completely that they're doing more interesting stuff w/ shoegaze than most.

I am a major sucker for heavy distortion, warped sounds and tons o' fuzz.

You know Blue Smiley's main songwriter passed away several years ago now, yeah?

alpine static, Saturday, 22 June 2024 07:48 (four months ago) link

"what's the deal with Philly?"

best indie rock scene in America for a decade now, probably? i assume it's because everywhere nearby got too expensive and artists ended up there. (idk, i live 3,000 miles away.)

alpine static, Saturday, 22 June 2024 07:49 (four months ago) link

Mad not to make the album buyable.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 22 June 2024 11:51 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Philly is pretty good for independent music and always has been, ime as someone both from here and as someone who left for 15 years only to return. The punk/hc and indie-rock scene of the mid to late 90s was incredible, and it's kept up since then tbh.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 19 July 2024 16:41 (three months ago) link

xpost alpine static, yeah it's a damn shame. Spotify algorithm fired Blue Smiley across my bow a few months before the remaining members put out their previously unreleased material in the fall of '23 and I was utterly crestfallen to hear that the brains behind the operation had passed away. Their music sounds like it comes from a damaged soul, but it has a particularly uplifting quality that I feel can only come from such a source.

Ubiquitor, Saturday, 20 July 2024 00:24 (three months ago) link

The new album by Orcas (Rafael Anton Irisarri + Benoît Pioulard) came out this week and will make your ears bleed technicolor

https://orcasmorr.bandcamp.com/album/how-to-color-a-thousand-mistakes

Xgau Murder Spa (nikola), Saturday, 20 July 2024 16:53 (three months ago) link

Lorelle Meets The Obsolete in Tijuana last night. (my short review: fuck yeah!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_CgDxFZlJI

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 28 July 2024 01:40 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5C6g9L2-c

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 28 July 2024 01:40 (three months ago) link

awesome

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 July 2024 01:53 (three months ago) link

Think I talked about Pink Breath of Heaven earlier in the thread — easily my new favorite SF band and I would have seen them last night again if it wasn’t for finally getting a chance to see Cold Gawd at last. Anyway: new Pink Breath single is out:

https://pinkbreathofheaven.bandcamp.com/track/the-wind-is-calling

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 August 2024 00:14 (three months ago) link

this popped up on boomkat email this week, probably fits here musically but someone will know more about them than i do

Belong:
https://boomkat.com/products/realistic-ix

koogs, Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:24 (three months ago) link

(i only clicked through because i liked the cover)

koogs, Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:24 (three months ago) link

alternatively i could scroll back like a page...

koogs, Saturday, 10 August 2024 10:25 (three months ago) link

The Belong album is so MBV drenched, it’s crazy.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 10 August 2024 13:08 (three months ago) link

https://www.stereogum.com/2245469/tiktok-has-made-shoegaze-bigger-than-ever/columns/sounding-board/

are we talking about this anywhere else?

― 龜, wednesday 20 december 2023 10:38 (seven months ago)

Wisp (still only 19 years old) played at the Pukkelpop festival in Belgium yesterday and reviews are very positive.

In case you didn't click that, here's a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foTFjWd21e0

StanM, Sunday, 18 August 2024 07:06 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Full Cold Gawd set from July

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTu5UTnBYZk

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 6 September 2024 21:05 (two months ago) link

Yup, they're something live, caught them a month back here doing an opening set as mentioned upthread a bit and it killed.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 September 2024 21:59 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Is there a good Shoegaze thread?

Joe Dilworth (amazing drummer and photographer*) is releasing a book of his photographs from 1987-1994 from London including many, many acts that were performing in the scene before shoegaze and shoegaze-adjacent was retroactively applied to it. Many appeared in Melody Maker.

*Joe was the original drummer of Stereolab, Cavern Of Anti-Matter, Th' Faith Healers & Add N to (X). His photographs appeared on hundreds of albums, most notably for this thread: the Isn't Anything front and back covers.

https://bildbandberlin.com/collections/all-books/products/joe-dilworth-everything-all-at-once-forever
hardback, limited to 600

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 28 September 2024 02:49 (one month ago) link

Hmm! Very tempted.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 September 2024 02:50 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Tanukichan latest - Circles is ok shoegaze but doesn’t wow me

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 23:22 (two weeks ago) link


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