Kylie Minogue: Classic or Dud?

Years ago she did not have big lips. Her right eyebrow did not touch her hairline like it does now, it was actually lower than the left one if you look at pics! Her boobs miraculously grew when she was seeing Micheal Hutchence, and her bum doesn't have a crease on it!!! Every bum has creases when you stand up. I dont rate her music either. I agree Better than the Devil you Know was OK, but her recent efforts such as at the Brit awards when she had her ar*e hanging out again, she wanted to be 'cool' by mixing her song with Blue Monday. SOoooo wasn't good.

She is an overrated, plastic, old tart who wants to get some clothes on and give women dignity, not make them look like they are gagging for it. Hopefully she'll go BACK out of fashion, AND SOON!!!!!!!

kylie's GREAT, CONSTANTLY OVERLOOKED single: what do i have to do?!

kylie overall: classic. since when has it been about 'artistry' and 'singing'? i'm shocked that this stuff has come up.

that's what i want - hologram pop stars.

YES!

It's amazing how Kylie jumped from my bad books into my good books with such a minute shift in style from the last album.

Both of their music style's is of course not their own, but Britney has this 'thing' about her that makes you want to watch her. She does actually look like what she does in the photos. And when people go on and on, criticising her about wearing skimpy stuff - we have to remember she is only 20 and has to entertain. However, Kylie is nearly 34 and is still prancing around like an old slut with her plastic, pinned up arse and nobody says a word!!! When are the papers gonna see sense and slate her for the old tart she is!!! She is revelling in all of this attention she is getting, and its about time it stopped! OK, Spears is rumoured to have had a boob-job (and propbably has), but when do you see them hanging out of her top, like the goofy- toothed dwarfs??? Those pics from her Fever tour are ridiculous. Her boobs are pushed up sooooooo much, you can see the plastic popping out of the flesh!!! And have you noticed that there's not a smile from the pop- pixie? She is just looking down on herself, revelling in her plasticness. I dont know, I think the country has been brainwashed. It was that song 'Cant get you out of my head' that done it. It must have had some kind of subliminal message saying "MEN: You will all adore Kylie - she is the perfect image of woman; and WOMEN: You will all not care that your men fantasise about Kylie every night in her hotpants, you must love her and want to be her".

Well, I think I must have been one of the few that escaped her propaganda tactics!

Is there anybody else out there??????????????????

Thank god she got rid of the bad perm and reinvented herself....

agree on that last point too.

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To tell you the truth I put on Fever a ot more than say, Rooty or Under Construction.

Fever is inconsistent. Light Years is all bliss, except that horrid ballad thing in the middle. You skip that obv.

I mean, is her explosive commercial success of 2 years ago now eclipsed?

I finally downloaded it yesterday and I'm obsessed with it now.
It's even better than I remembered - that synth part, that bassline, the whispered backing vocals in the chorus...holy shit, it's the best song ever.

Any thoughts on 'Ultimate Kylie'? Mine are that the first disc is best used as a frisbee, but that the second is really pretty great. I'm surprised by how many of these I like. I can even cope with the Robbie duet and 'Spinning Around' in retrospect.

I would like to pretend that I will listen to Enjoy Yourself before assembling my ballot, but I feel like that pretence would be insulting to all of you and also to myself.

I can't remember anything from Enjoy Yourself except Hand on Your Heart and the title track. they're both pretty good, but on a whole it's a repetitive step down from the debut. And then after the leap forward with Rhythm of Love, Let's Get To It feels like a major regression (and she herself didn't really jibe with it either, iirc.)

Enjoy Yourself also has Never Too Late! wouldn’t Change a Thing! Tears on my Pillow!

I loved these when I was 13 and deep into my SAW bag .. I dunno if they hit as well now but the pre-chorus/chorus hooks still are p enjoyable

let's get to it at least has some half-baked attempts at new jack swing etc., they're at least trying stuff on it even if the results are very underwhelming

This is going to be the best poll. I’m listening to her discography on shuffle. So many bangers among the deep cuts.

Was just reminded of perhaps the most wholesome/corniest thing in her live catalog: the “especially for you” duet with Kermit the frog. it cracks me up every time.

it's really impressive how she's easily able to vacillate between being an incredibly astute, controlled popstar and a charmingly corny normie.

also wanted to add, listening to Light Years again and I agree w/kitchenperson on I'm So High - it's a really outstanding track and that chorus really hits.

I'm so happy to read that omar. I sometimes think I'm So High might her most underrated song. I'm so glad I picked up the Light Years reissue, it has made me appreciate the album so much more.

I'm interested to see how people rate X these days and which songs will make the list. I've played it a few times since I picked up the reissue and it has a handful of my favourite Kylie songs. Cosmic always hits me hard. The vulnerability is so beautiful and I honestly don't think her voice has sounded better. A lot of her albums have killer closing tracks. Burning Up, Can't Beat The Feeling, Story, Celebrate You, Light Years etc. Cosmic might be my favourite of the bunch.

light years has some of her very best songs but also some real duds. i really love "please stay" which was only a minor hit and seems largely forgotten these days

Bit surprised at the lack of love for Hand On Your Heart, especially with its gorgeous descending chords in the chorus. Also to observe Kylie has two entirely unrelated songs called Love At First Sight - the undeniable banger from 2002, but also this none-more-PWL effort from 1989.

there's probably a good song in "hand on your heart" but the recording is so flat & over-compressed, it's horrible. the whole album's like that and it just leaves no impression as a result

The extended fllter disco version of hand on your heart from the 2004 showgirl tour is ingrained in my head as the definitive version. Can’t get enough of it. That whole show had great arrangements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bwpzjF8kG0

light years has some of her very best songs but also some real duds. i really love "please stay" which was only a minor hit and seems largely forgotten these days

― ufo

I used to think there were lots of duds on it, but recently I've been enjoying almost everything on there, even the ballad. I don't need to hear Kids ever again though.

does anyone rate Kids nowadays? It seems so out of place

tbf I often feel like I am like one remix or live rearrangement away from loving a Kylie track I wasn’t originally into

I never really rated it and I will happily stand up for a handful of Robbie Williams singles from back in the day. It does seem out of place on the album. I'm guessing the label insisted it was on there as they weren't expecting the whole campaign to go as well as it did and figured the album needed an extra push as he was still in his imperial phase. The album campaign would have gone on for even longer if they'd put out Your Disco Needs You at Christmas instead of Please Stay.

that version of "hand on your heart" is much better yeah. i don't think the original arrangement is even bad it's just terribly produced and doesn't hit at all in the way that it should.

"kids" is a dud and completely out of place yeah. i don't like "your disco needs you" much either, i prefer my disco lighter & breezier

Your Disco Needs You does seem to divide people. I still think it would have been absolutely massive if released as a single.

Light Years seems a lot more agreeable to me than it did at the time, when it felt extremely calculating and a bit of a PR-mandated repudiation of the previous album - Kylie’s equivalent of “woke 1.0 was crazy” I guess.

Straight out the gate the Fever run just felt both more confident and comfortable, she no longer needed to prove that she could still top the charts so instead could focus on making the best chartbound dance-pop possible.

But in light of the various iterations around that basic blueprint since then, I don’t hear the same degree of calculation in Light Years that I did at the time.

focus on

Fever is one of the best examples I can think of where an artist capitalized on the momentum they'd built up and turned it into something special and career defining. The whole era including the quality of the music, the single choices, the videos and even the B-sides was such a triumph.

I liked the singles from Body Language at the time. Didn't know until now that Emiliana Torrini had a writing credit on Slow.

When I was a kid I don't think I realised the Kylie 'Better the Devil you know" was a different song from the Sonia / Eurovision one with the same name - I was more familiar with that, but have no idea how?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VTQ9hqMu5M here ya go

at the time I thought "Your Disco Needs You" felt very cynical and pandering, but in a world where "Firework" and "Born This Way" exist now it feels much more quaint and charming

I was dying at that Kermit duet btw, it’s classic variety show cornball and vv charming.

^ 100%

there's probably a good song in "hand on your heart" but the recording is so flat & over-compressed, it's horrible. the whole album's like that and it just leaves no impression as a result

Fever is one of the best examples I can think of where an artist capitalized on the momentum they'd built up and turned it into something special and career defining. The whole era including the quality of the music, the single choices, the videos and even the B-sides was such a triumph.

i think it was a vv revelatory time, especially for Americans like myself who forgot about her after her brief US success in the late '80s. i didn't get the full scope of it til years later seeing other videos, live performances, photo shoots etc.

also - Bally Total Fitness licensed her music video to Can't Get You Out of My Head for their commercials over here, in line with their tradition of using popstars to sell their services, going back years to Sheena Easton being their featured spokesperson in ads. anyway, i saw this ad and they had the music video chyron crediting her and i was completely taken aback that this was Kylie Minogue, of "Locomotion" fame. i associated her fully with the era of peak hair metal, terrible power ballads, novelty cover songs (obv), Steve Winwood having a huge #1 album, etc.