Search And Destroy: Afghan Whigs

destroy: that horrific remix of "Milez Is Ded" called "Rebirth Of The Cool" on Uptown, the songs on Congregation I didn't search (ESPECIALLY "The Temple"), the second Twilight Singers album (though a stray great track might reveal itself to me later), and if we could bleep out the bullshit references to the devil from all tracks that'd be great.

I haven't heard anything before Congregation.

Oh, no! It's the Strokes argument all over again!

Dulli sounded great, his band sounded great--and not unlike the Whigs at all. There's something about when he's playing (and I use that term loosely, because while he had a guitar strapped on, I'm not convinced that it was actually plugged in) that no matter what he quotes or plays (a Kate Bush song, A Love Supreme, etc.) it seems like music was absolutely meant to sound exactly this way and no other.

On the other hand, he rambled more than I remember--no one to rein him in, I guess. And he made a long, convoluted (I guess) tribute to Elliott Smith which was frankly awful. If he was your friend, fine, play a song and shut the fuck up--it's not something I want to hear him use in his Mr Superlove shtick.

So same old, I guess--way over the top, not someone I wanna be friends with, fucking sounded great. But not as good as the Whigs.

Also, did you stay for the second encore?

Last night Dulli praised The Darkness. And I so wished I had my cigarette lighter when they played "Faded."

Destroy: my current financial state which means I have no idea when I can get hold of the new Twilight Singers album.

I think it's an act, the whole asshole thing. I think he's a nice er gentleman.

Yeah, I was there, but had to leave early (i.e. 1:15) due to some, er, relationship issues. So I missed the encores. :(

See, the problem with these late shows is that it gives you way too much time to drink beforehand...

there's a crappy mp3 floating around on soulseek.

Among the reasons the Whigs never had a big crossover hit: most of their best songs wound up as import CD single b-sides.

http://www.summerskiss.com/category/news/

Search: everything between their first and last albums.
Destroy: their first and last albums.

The tracklisting for Unbreakable/A Retrospective out May 1 on Rhino Records

1- Retarded
2- Crazy
3- Turn On The Water
4- Debonair
5- I'm A Soldier
6- 66
7- Be Sweet
8- Come See About Me
9- Uptown Again
10- What Jail Is Like
11- Magazine
12- I'm Her Slave
13- Going To Town
14- Gentlemen
15- Let Me Lie To You
16- John the Baptist
17- Crime Scene Part One
18- Faded

Not chronological, very incomplete, but it's something, I suppose. :-/

Search: pretty much everything not on here
Destroy: the people who decided not to rerelease/remaster the whole catalog (maybe they will, though, someday, who knows?)

One disc is always going to be incomplete, isn't it?

(hell, just click on "whigsbitch" and check out all the other stuff this guy/girl has uploaded on youtube)

was really going ham on "black love" a week or so ago, listening to basically nothing else. some pretty amazing moments but all in all it's a really frustrating record. the magic of "gentleman" is missing somehow, greg dulli's singing struck me as really lazy, out-of-tune for no good reason. the worst is the mixing, it must be dulli's rhythm guitar that's pushed up so far, why? he just grinds away on like two notes. isn't this supposed to be funky? let the bass lead. rick mccollum is some kind of rough genius tho. and the drumming is really good; i read in an interview years and years ago that dulli booted a drummer for basically being a druggy raver? was that this guy?

songs like "night by candlelight", i don't get why the strings don't even seem like they're arranged. there are these big crescendos, but the bass and the chords aren't even the same, everyone is sawing away with emotion. yeah yeah i get the stonesy shambolic thing but this is a big unfocused mess.

hmm...interesting i've always liked it more than gentlemen...not really scrutinized the mix though.

but honestly i loved this album at a point in my life when i was very young, very depressed, and very drunk and it was so perfect for that i can't really judge it from a distance.

ha i feel the same way about gentlemen!

the "hard bitten lifer dude at the bar telling you kids crazy stories" steez about dulli that made a HUGE impression on me as a kid. hard relationships, drugs, booze, bad decisions, leather jackets, old records, sexy ladies with crazy problems, getting your shoes shined, bailing out your friend who got caught at a cockfight, bad shit going town to-ni-ee-ight, all that. i dunno if i'm just OLD now but it doesn't wear very well anymore. half the time i just want to say, greg, come on, your life isn't really like this. relax.

a friend of mine worked on a whigs video shoot a looong time ago and said that dulli showed up way way late, drinking a bottle of whiskey and walking with a pimp cane

gentlemen was the last one with the original drummer, then black love had a new drummer, then 1965 had another new drummer iirc

yeah dulli is totally over the top with the shtick, but somehow it seemed to usually work. dude is v. good at playing rock star.

Their version of Come See About Me is still probably my favourite cover of all time.

^^^ YES

like their Creep and Can't Get Enough Of better, I think

still can't figure out what the hell honkey's ladder is about. Is this song about race and class? or is it just about some crime movie that I haven't seen?

oh also, after 3 years, I just found my copy of black love.

Love Black Love, especially Night by Candlelight.

Anyone know the origin of the song title Vampire Lanois? Dulli get mad at Daniel Lanois or something?

It's not a dis. iirc they were New Orleans pals back then and its a nod to his fashion sense

Ah. That's neat-o.

https://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2022/05/how-do-you-burn-1651501485.jpeg

new album how do you burn out 9/9

Greg Dulli’s frequent collaborator Mark Lanegan sang on two tracks, and provided the name How Do You Burn? Susan Marshall, who sang on the Whigs album 1965, guests on “Catch A Colt,” and Van Hunt (who’d previously toured with the Whigs and was on Do The Beast), appears on both “Jyja” and “Take Me There.” Marcy Mays, who sang on Gentlemen‘s “My Curse,” returns for “Domino And Jimmy” here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fblcAv6GRNU

Great news! They'll be playing in my hometown in August

This dream is not a dream
I wake with it
Inside of me
Alone, I swear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im2fGcu7B5k

Seeing them tomorrow. Psyched.

really impressed with the new album especially the two tracks that van hunt features on ("jyja" and "take me there")

doesn't really remind me of any other whigs record in the catalog except in spades, and only in that every song does something different but there is a sustained, mean/forbidding/defeatedly gorgeous atmosphere they share. my thoughtless one-sentence review would be this is what i wanted dynamite steps to be

this is the most obnoxiously brickwalled album i've heard in a while

it's a shame because otherwise it's yet another quite good album from dulli. "jyja" is a real highlight

tentatively would put it better than do to the beast, not quite as good as in spades

Seeing them tomorrow, first headlining gig I've seen from them in a while. Last time was opening for Built to Spill on that weird bill, which I mostly remember for being loud. I'm taking a blank slate friend who I think has never even heard of them, I'm curious what he thinks.

love this record

While not quite as good as the times I saw them with the singers and horns, they killed it tonight. Dulli's voice sounds great, and the setlist leaned confidently toward their more recent material, with stuff from the first era doled out judiciously. Want to say "Line of Shots" from the new one was a highlight.

Apparently Dulli was having amp and guitar problems all night, but sounded great. Some dude already posted a few clips:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUIPT4YxtBk

Listening to the album now, had a rush when Marcy Mays’ voice unexpectedly opened Domino and Jimmy. With so long between nu-Whigs albums, they should noodle out a Twilight Singers record or two between ‘em.

Should have put a spoiler alert there! Was just about to listen.

I meant to hide tag but fucked it up :(

I’m on phone but endorse anyone linking a mod request and then deleting the following posts!

oh come on

any number of places have mentioned her involvement

No worries. I didn't really care that much.

Just to spoil further, Domino & Jimmy on morning TV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aJ3kolKb0U

I can't believe I used to go to clubs on weeknights on a regular basis. But I did have a good time; Dulli continues to never give less than 115%. I wasn't familiar with the new stuff, but it's all solid. Have they been doing that shout-out to Shawn Smith at other shows?

Just finally getting around to the new one, man that opener is like Afghan Whigs gone stoner rock, I dig it.

I was going through our kitchen cabinets and found an old jar of jam made with Afghan figs.

god they were so good live

At least two of my fave shows of all time.