that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"

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arcade fire is probably at or going to be at this stage very soon

i don't know if you were responding to my post or just commenting on the thread in general, but anyhow that's what kind of confused me. i would expect to see a huge billboard advertising them at this point but i didn't even realize the decemberists were still together

dell (del), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

this is sorta like the dream rocker retirement plan, though, isn't it? keep on doing yr thing, financial security and no media spotlight bullshit

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Death Cab for Cutie

skip, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

del i was just responding to the thread in general

but yeah decemberists is OTM there's a couple guys at work who love them now, very non-hipster musical tastes (they love they might be giants) and they don't even know of "her majesty the decemberists" which i remember being their buzz album

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

The Frames

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

this is sorta like the dream rocker retirement plan, though, isn't it? keep on doing yr thing, financial security and no media spotlight bullshit

― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:47 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i mean we're mainly being snarky but for the most part i feel like these kinds of acts have really just had admirable career arcs, catering to a fanbase that stuck with them well after the tastemakers and the industry machinery kind of forgot they existed

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah otm i think it's great, probably the only real form of "success" left imo

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Death Cab are sorta like this, although they're still pretty high profile.

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't speak to precise sales numbers (and have a meeting to run to so I can't look them up now) but conceptually I'd think The Postal Service was more a candidate here than Death Cab

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

arcade fire is probably at or going to be at this stage very soon

I think everyone knows the Arcade Fire is huge. Hold Steady and My Morning Jacket otm though. MMJ played Madison Square Garden on New Year's Eve one year. yikes.

dmr, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i always look at the summer lineup for the big venue near me (red rocks) and wonder who is buying tickets for a lot of these shows. but the bands playing must be successful beyond mere buzz, which is pretty admirable. buzz must be overrated. i mean red rocks is a 9,000-seat amphitheatre and here are just a few of the bands playing: blues traveler, thievery corp., death cab, kings of leon, big head fucking todd...someone buys tickets for this stuff!

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Paul Oakenfold

matt2, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Wilco

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't speak to precise sales numbers (and have a meeting to run to so I can't look them up now) but conceptually I'd think The Postal Service was more a candidate here than Death Cab

― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:59 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

if Postal Service had released a note of music or toured in the last 7 years or whatever i'm sure they'd be huge, and i'm sure in some ways Death Cab's popularity is kind of a placeholder for PS (as is Owl City). but their existence as a current act is kind of hypothetical at this point.

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

think that wilco have really done the best job in terms of a long term career -- they've got pitchforky cred, oldsters, jam bandsters, dad rockers. WHO DOESN'T LOVE WILCO.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Countdown to Ned post in 10, 9, 8...

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Weird Al

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

here's another show at red rocks this summer that might just take the cake here: Unity Tour 2011: 311 and Sublime with Rome

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Weird Al has had a surprisingly long shelf life but his chart/media presence is high enough that his popularity hasn't really escaped anyone's notice

ICP kinda fit the bill before the Gathering trailer and the "Miracles" video went viral

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost. Ha, Thievery Corporation. Never would have believed the makers of "2001: A Spliff Odyssey" would still be around, let alone popular.

We need to talk about Bevan (DL), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Sade is playing the 20,000-capacity 02 Arena in London soon, she's probably bigger than ever.

Bass Solo (Matt #2), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

she also had one of the biggest albums of 2010 and nobody was under the impression that she wasn't popular anymore

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

The New Deal became kind of weirdly successful

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Guess I missed that then

xpost

Bass Solo (Matt #2), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

here's another show at red rocks this summer that might just take the cake here: Unity Tour 2011: 311 and Sublime with Rome

― tylerw, Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:16 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

one of the hosts of the "power trip morning show" in minneapolis (the morning show of the local sports talk station) is like OBSESSED with 311, he talks about them all the time, and actually traveled from mpls to see them at red rocks, crazy

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, they have a really devoted fanbase. i mean, they've been around for like 15 years now, right? i hate being snobby, but people who like them are truly savages.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

ICP kinda fit the bill before the Gathering trailer and the "Miracles" video went viral

I was about to argue this but yeah, OTM; they got HUGE media attention circa The Great Milenko and then everyone sort of forgot they were still around, even though they still kept selling way more albums than they really should. (I think you could plausibly argue that they haven't matched their Milenko/Jeckel Brothers album sales in subsequent years but again, I have no facts behind that.)

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah like he calls them the greatest band of all time and means it, it's mental illness

omaha stylee

P-NUT!

http://brigade311.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/060900_pnut.jpg

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, it's like people who go to 311 shows have ~experiences~ and they become fans for life. i dunno, maybe they're amazing live. look at that guy.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

let's all watch this together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsw7yaFGNQw

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

guys, stop trying to make 311 happen to us again

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

couldn't do it. "amber is the color of your energy" lol

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Black Keys

― solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:42 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark

srsly i saw these dudes in like 2004, "rubber factory" was one of the first CDs i ever burned, and then i forgot all about them for most of a decade and suddenly they're everywhere

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

also re: My Morning Jacket, this band is partially responsible for me "getting" American Dad

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

311 are staples @ the "Classic Alternative" station here.

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

so weird that "classic alternative" is a thing now

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

so weird that its standard-bearer is 311

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

music peaked around 98 man

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

drum corps nerds still listen to 311 because the drummer marched corps, and also because of similar facial hair styles (i presume)

adult music person (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ 1:20 of that video.

the dude plays the most rudimentary 'solo' and people start freaking out

goole, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, in some ways, it's kind of cool. they seem like the most average guys who happen to play in a band but who also work in the IT dept. or something. like they have a regular gig playing a restaurant patio in the summer.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i remember the nuttiest show i'd ever been to, which was one of the first: bush at sec taylor stadium in ames iowa, after their first album. it was the first big-ish, current-ish band to play that corner of the world in forever. i have never heard people scream louder or longer for an encore than that. they weren't very good (they were bush) but it was like budokan. some people just aren't that jaded about music (if you want to be charitable about it) and if you can get a handle on the affections of that kind of audience you'll be good for a long time.

goole, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^yeah i think that's true. you can kind of hit a sweet spot of utter mediocrity + rock star moves and people just kinda dig it.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

p-nut will be slapping his five string long after oddfuture are distant memories, RIP trollcore

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

lol I was about to say "there's one Bush song that isn't that bad" but then I couldn't for the life of me remember which one I was thinking of because all of the ones that came to mind were terrible

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

is the other guy with a mic just a backup singer? can every member of 311 only take on one musical task at a time?

2and2is5, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

he's the rapper, right?

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Uhhh.... Velvet Underground and Big Star?

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Big Head Todd still exists?

sarahel, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Gen Z kids love My Bloody Valentine.

Also, reunion bias kinda distorts this question for me:

The last time I saw Pavement (peak) was in 2/97 in a tiny bar in San Francisco (<200 people).

I skipped their TT tour and 2010 reunion shows for various reasons but then I was able to see their most recent reunion shows in this enormous music venue (3 sold out nights at ~3500 seats).

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 13 July 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

little more of a nuanced example, but in my "trying to keep up with the goons" days of hip hop listening, I got into Jellyroll through the collaboration with Haystak, the Strictly Business album, which got some positive recognition in hip hop zines and HipHopDx. I enjoyed it, it was a solid album. Jellyroll had also had that one song with Lil Wyte that blew up minorly in 2010, "Pop Another Pill", so I thought maybe he'd start getting more big features but then he kinda resumed being more of an undie rapper again and doing low rent mixtapes and I forgot all about him for years.

so I go to Welcome to Rockville in 2021, and I hear a familiar voice at one of the smaller stages, and it's JellyRoll! and people are flocking to the stage quickly, but like it's still one of the smaller stages at the festival.

apparently he blew the fuck up shortly after that, like....dude just won three CMT awards! I was blown away. my friend was talking about him and I was like "the little known rapper that used to collabo with Haystak and Lil Wyte?" and she's like "nah he sings now, he's on TV and has performed at the Grand Ole Opry"

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link

he was on the cover of billboard

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

in his undies

slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link

yea I love the jelly roll story lol

hes come a long way from the days of goon classic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNi0zDTPgOc

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

There are a ton of artists I've never heard of that have songs doing streaming numbers in the hundreds of millions. Tik Tok, I assume?

Rag'n'Bone Man 852 million
Hotel Ugly 394 m
Roar 432 m
TV Girl 382 m
Falling in Reverse 271 m
David Kushner 351 m
JVKE 732 m
ThxSoMch 295 m
Bakar 323 m
Rainbow Kitten Surprise 262 m

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link

Rag'n'Bone Man is big in the UK I think. At least in a "see his record advertised on the tube" way, never actually heard him.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link

He looks like Jelly Roll's British equivalent

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:47 (one year ago) link

I hear Rag'n'Bone Man all the time on the radio here (in Montreal).

silverfish, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link

(xxp) You're not missing much.

Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link

Yes, he is very very popular.

Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 July 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Hozier is back for more! We can’t wait to see Hozier at #MyXEC on August 17 on his Unreal Unearth Tour 2024.

Tickets go on sale Friday, November 17, 2023. pic.twitter.com/WWf0dbK9lg

— Xcel Energy Center (@XcelEnergyCtr) November 9, 2023



Hozier is playing a hockey arena, had no idea he was that popular

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link

I recently noticed he had several albums currently on the Billboard 200

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:34 (one year ago) link

Mt. Joy is playing Madison Square Garden next year.

Discovering The Wombats were not only still at it but quite big in the States was jaw-dropping

PaulTMA, Thursday, 9 November 2023 21:12 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

How the heck does Hozier have the #1 single right now?

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Sunday, 28 April 2024 01:26 (six months ago) link

I think I mentioned upthread that he played the local 20k hockey arena when he came through on tour, crazy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 28 April 2024 12:11 (six months ago) link

'shed seven have just had a uk no 1 album, even if such things mean little anymore' to thread

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:03 (six months ago) link

it's not that they're 'more' popular, just that they've somehow played the long game finely enough that the dwindling charts and other media have come closer to them, not the other way round

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:05 (six months ago) link

Imagine sitting down and listening to the new Shed Seven album which you have just bought in a shop.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:16 (six months ago) link

this is precisely what Michael Dugher and Stella Creasy will be doing rn

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:23 (six months ago) link


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