that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"

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let's all watch this together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsw7yaFGNQw

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

guys, stop trying to make 311 happen to us again

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

couldn't do it. "amber is the color of your energy" lol

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Black Keys

― solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 5:42 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark

srsly i saw these dudes in like 2004, "rubber factory" was one of the first CDs i ever burned, and then i forgot all about them for most of a decade and suddenly they're everywhere

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

also re: My Morning Jacket, this band is partially responsible for me "getting" American Dad

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

311 are staples @ the "Classic Alternative" station here.

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

so weird that "classic alternative" is a thing now

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

so weird that its standard-bearer is 311

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

music peaked around 98 man

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

drum corps nerds still listen to 311 because the drummer marched corps, and also because of similar facial hair styles (i presume)

adult music person (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

lol @ 1:20 of that video.

the dude plays the most rudimentary 'solo' and people start freaking out

goole, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, in some ways, it's kind of cool. they seem like the most average guys who happen to play in a band but who also work in the IT dept. or something. like they have a regular gig playing a restaurant patio in the summer.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i remember the nuttiest show i'd ever been to, which was one of the first: bush at sec taylor stadium in ames iowa, after their first album. it was the first big-ish, current-ish band to play that corner of the world in forever. i have never heard people scream louder or longer for an encore than that. they weren't very good (they were bush) but it was like budokan. some people just aren't that jaded about music (if you want to be charitable about it) and if you can get a handle on the affections of that kind of audience you'll be good for a long time.

goole, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^yeah i think that's true. you can kind of hit a sweet spot of utter mediocrity + rock star moves and people just kinda dig it.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

p-nut will be slapping his five string long after oddfuture are distant memories, RIP trollcore

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

lol I was about to say "there's one Bush song that isn't that bad" but then I couldn't for the life of me remember which one I was thinking of because all of the ones that came to mind were terrible

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

is the other guy with a mic just a backup singer? can every member of 311 only take on one musical task at a time?

2and2is5, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

he's the rapper, right?

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Uhhh.... Velvet Underground and Big Star?

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Big Head Todd still exists?

sarahel, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

they just had a new song on classic rock radio here! a john lee hooker cover i think.

goole, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

they do! it might be a colorado thing? i don't think they'd go anywhere else and play huge places, but here they're heroes. they play red rocks every summer afaik

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

they were like my pick for stupidest band name back in the mid-90s

sarahel, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Dizzee Rascal

I think everyone knows the Arcade Fire is huge.

In Canada probably, but outside? Although they do play big venues, I haven't seen them mentioned anywhere outside rock magazines and indie radio.

A quick look confirms Zucchero, Faithless, Eros Ramazotti, Status Quo, Jamiroquai, Toto, Daddy Yankee and Calle 13 do arena tours these days.

Siegbran, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

god, i should just do a poll for best red rocks bill this summer. a sampling:
Jethro Tull with Special Guest Kansas
Blues Traveler / Matisyahu / Toad the Wet Sprocket
Kenny Chesney, Billy Currington, Uncle Kracker
Chicago with the Colorado Symphony
STYX / Yes
Train / Maroon 5 / Gavin De Graw
Unity Tour 2011: 311 and Sublime with Rome
The Divine Rascals Tour with Carlos Santana and George Lopez

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

woah

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

don't stare into the abyss too long

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

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BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

hoos that sounds like it's right up you alley

goole, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

see, hoos has already lost his mind

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

your

callejón i should say

xp

goole, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

lmao

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

"WHO DOESN'T LOVE WILCO."

http://thenakedhero.com/wp-content/uploads/raised-hand-1.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Wilco

― Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 6:06 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think i saw them around 2005 at merriweather, which is huge, and the roots opened for them. at that point they would've been accurate for this thread.

also 90% of these bands are enjoyed by my cousins, who are all recently married in their mid-30s and used to be really into DMB. and like, hiking, and shit.

more fish for kunta (zachlyon), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

In Canada probably, but outside?

They topped the Norwegian album charts for a few weeks last August.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

1) have an identifiable, instantly familiar sound
2) stick with it through thick and thin, even in the midst of experimentation
3) write catchy, comfortable tunes
4) have no contempt for sentiment or easy appeal
5) have no vested interest in staying current
6) avoid confrontation and shock
7) connect with an at least moderately affluent audience that can raise kids & grow old with you

contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

8) get threatened by Scott Stapp

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Record Store Day
There's a new BEN HARPER record in stores today. Participating record stores have a really big litho to GIVE you as a special gift TILL they're GONE.

sarahel, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

the Flaming Lips play way larger venues now than they did for Transmissions..., Clouds Taste..., and Soft Bulletin

nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

1) have an identifiable, instantly familiar sound
2) stick with it through thick and thin, even in the midst of experimentation
3) write catchy, comfortable tunes
4) have no contempt for sentiment or easy appeal
5) have no vested interest in staying current
6) avoid confrontation and shock
7) connect with an at least moderately affluent audience that can raise kids & grow old with you

― contenderizer, Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:16 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think half of these kind overstate "safeness" as a virtue of these bands to their fans. half of the acts listed in this thread could drop a futuristic techno rock opera and most of their audience would be like "awright! return to form!"

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

311 futuristic techno rock opera? Really?

sarahel, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

if they dropped a full-on drum'n'bass album warning about the ills of a world without weed and hackysack their fans would explode with joy

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

i think some dude is right, for example, a lot of mars volta's early following and loyal following were at the drive in fans, but they def opened up to an album as bonkers as frances the mute

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

y'all haven't heard P-Nut in the 24th Century yet? it's crazeee.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

radiohead never gave up the "buzz" part but i think their continued popularity has a lot in common with what we've been talking about here, same with bjork

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah Radiohead and Bjork are basically the versions of this that gained (or never lost) the 'cool critical darling' tag

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

some bands i wish this kind of thing would happen to or happen faster, like how long does Ted Leo need to keep plugging away before he wakes up one day and is headlining huge venues?

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe if he changed his name to Big Head Ted?

sarahel, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

like it's always surprising to me ppl i know that have pretty like normalish taste in music that will listen to any weird half constructed minimal techno thing because it's radiohead and they hear thom's voice on it

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link


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