that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"

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maybe if he changed his name to Big Head Ted?

sarahel, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

like it's always surprising to me ppl i know that have pretty like normalish taste in music that will listen to any weird half constructed minimal techno thing because it's radiohead and they hear thom's voice on it

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i think half of these kind overstate "safeness" as a virtue of these bands to their fans. half of the acts listed in this thread could drop a futuristic techno rock opera and most of their audience would be like "awright! return to form!"

― bile al (some dude), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:33 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

that's fair. i wasn't trying to make a blanket statement about all bands of this sort, only describing a formula that applies to a subcategory of them (pearl jam, black keys, my morning jacket, lots of jam bands). i stressed safeness (or comfortableness) as a virtue not to be snide, but because it is a virtue of a sort, and one that doesn't earn a lot of pop-cultural or critical attention.

for bands like flaming lips and ween, projecting sincerity and avoiding controversy clearly aren't the point.

contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

WOW from 311's FB page:

823,097
people like this

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah jeez WEEN, surprised it took this long for them to get mentioned

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link

oh wow yeah them totally

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

very non-hipster musical tastes (they love they might be giants)

just coming here to say :(

underrated earl sweatshirt fans i have boned (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i had no idea about their following until the last band i was in, the singer was a super fan and like it sounded they have almost a borderline deadhead/phishhead level of rabid following, she would buy every ween new thing no matter what

very non-hipster musical tastes (they love they might be giants)

just coming here to say :(

― underrated earl sweatshirt fans i have boned (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:55 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what's wrong w/TMBG? i fucks with lincoln

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i've met people with insane collections of ween bootlegs, otm about deadhead/phish levels of diehards.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

nothing, I love the first three albums (Lincoln is the peak) just that... well, if yr a TMBG fan you're already outing yourself as something of a nerd, they're a weird band to cite as a "non-hipster" taste because they certainly aren't mainstream or AOR or whatever

underrated earl sweatshirt fans i have boned (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

xp

underrated earl sweatshirt fans i have boned (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

just fyi every band I know dreams of getting to this stage. this stage represents total arrival. you don't have to worry about your haters and you don't have to be constantly trying to win over new people.

w of in the attic (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

weird it's almost like I said exactly that aerosmith

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

you also know what color you energy is

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Brainstorm, take me away from the norm
I got to tell you something
This phenomenon, I had to put it in a song
And it goes like

Chorus:
Whoa, amber is the color of your energy
Whoa, shades of gold displayed naturally

You ought to know what brings me here
You glide through my head blind to fear
And I know why

(Chorus 2x)

You live too far away
Your voice rings like a bell anyway
Don't give up your independence
Unless it feels so right
Nothing good comes easily
Sometimes you gotta fight

(Chorus)

Launched a thousand ships in my heart
So easy, still it's fine from afar
And you know that
Whoa, brainstorm take me away from the norm
Whoa, I got to tell you something

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link

this thread sent me down a rabbit hole of wikis, youtubes, and fan boards about the mars volta and their revolving drum chair. every random video of thomas pridgen soundchecking or deantoni parks playing with meshell ndegeocello is clogged up with mars volta fans arguing about drummers.

(i had no idea that they had won a grammy or that they're really popular... i'm guessing they have a big high school prog rock following?)

adult music person (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i think they may fill the void for certain teens that rush filled for me

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

underrated aerosmith otm, this is valhalla

contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

devendra banhart

Crooked Lust (thebingo), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

huh, really? banhart is still big?

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

contenderizer give credit to gbx, he was the first guy ever to notice this

w of in the attic (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

oh right, thanks, aerosmith

contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

no one is giving me the proper credit

i thought i was in the stage of my ILX career where i could comfortable tour 2000 seat theaters but I GUESS NOT THANKS FOR NOTHING

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

contenderizer give credit to gbx, he was the first guy ever to notice this

― w of in the attic (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 3:16 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

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cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

pre-order my next post on ILX and you'll receive a special edition t-shirt, limited edition 78rpm 10-inch of me reading all my posts from the neil young thread, and my 7th grade school yearbook photo

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^guy knows how to treat his fans. do u want to be on a bill w/ uncle kracker this summer.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

dunno, i'm holding out for the remaster w/black light woodblock print of gbx's "I like to fart and I'm crazy" period.

sarahel, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

greg dulli/twilight singers?

goole, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

was thinking Kid Rock b/c he seems bizarrely ubiquitous to me (tbh I'm not paying much attention) but then I saw that Devil Without A Cause went 11x platinum. So Kid Rock's a bad answer, but still, holy shit.

Euler, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm still surprised that Linkin Park and Papa Roach are still quite popular

MarkoP, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Drive-by Truckers should be included here

Moreno, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

dunno, i'm holding out for the remaster w/black light woodblock print of gbx's "I like to fart and I'm crazy" period.

― sarahel, Tuesday, May 17, 2011 8:31 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

irl lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

30 Seconds to Mars

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

^yeah i saw some ridic video on youtube and it was like they were jesus and U2 rolled into a space suit burrito

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i've seen that one it was crazytown

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

-crazytown

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

what about deerhoof? i didn't even know they were still around but they played a pretty big place around here last year and i think it even sold out. maybe that's just around here though.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah a lot of mainstream rock radio staples kinda sorta qualify for this thread (Incubus, Weezer, Foo Fighters) but Papa Roach is probably the best example because they seem like such a one hit wonder but the last few years you can hear one of their new songs on those stations every hour on the hour

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

1) have an identifiable, instantly familiar sound
2) stick with it through thick and thin, even in the midst of experimentation
3) write catchy, comfortable tunes
4) have no contempt for sentiment or easy appeal
5) have no vested interest in staying current
6) avoid confrontation and shock
7) connect with an at least moderately affluent audience that can raise kids & grow old with you

Cowboy Junkies
Allison Krauss
Lyle Lovett
k.d. lang

more horses after the main event (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

xp: then there are bands like Green Day, where you blink and then suddenly they are way more massively popular than you ever could have imagined them getting

like, it was around the time that they did a Broadway show that I was all "okay people, I am not opposed to this band but this is now officially silly"

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

That reminds me, I have to write a review of the new Incubus album by Friday and I'm still kinda boggling at the fact that it's 2011 and there's a new Incubus album.

that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

album of the year, amirite?

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

you're never ever funny (on purpose).

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

who - ilxor or Phil?

sarahel, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

love the parenthetical xp

btw, wasnt trying to be lol style funny w/ that post—just my way of asking "so, how's the album?"

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Jennifer Lopez seems to have come back with a vengeance. I heard On the Floor in every store and restaurant I walked inside of on 7th/8th Ave. and Times Square last week.

Leopard on the Cheetos Bag (MintIce), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

a lot of this stuff has to do with good management - a manager's job is to sort of help the band locate a place where they can reliably ply their trade without having to be constantly worrying about growth, staying hip, etc

Cowboy Junkies
Allison Krauss
Lyle Lovett
k.d. lang

Krauss is so damn smart she should be teaching seminars on how to do business

w of in the attic (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

neil young

Lamp, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Krauss is so damn smart she should be teaching seminars on how to do business

aero have you gone blonde yet?

goole, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link


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