MTV - classic or dud?

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I omitted Oasis and Elastica from my original list cuz they actually shipped gold and platinum.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

you know i really wonder how much of our impression that mtv was playing '90s indie/alt outliers "all the time" is down to endless beavis and butt-head repeats.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

because the idea that i was gonna turn on mtv in the middle of a weekday and get helium and not, say, another viewing of "hey man, nice shot" doesn't square with my memories. at all.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, I also watched Alternative Nation every night and 120 Minutes every Sunday. I'm just saying I distinctly remember them playing Blur in the middle of the day, no one is saying Daisy Chainsaw here

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

tbf there's only three of here who probably even remember who daisy chainsaw is

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

jesus christ Daisy Chainsaw!

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

I'm one.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

*Raises hand*

kkvgz, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

btw i'm not at all denying mtv's entertainment value or its centrality to my daily life even once i became a total anti-radio snob for a few years in the mid '90s.

xposts okay well that's five of us then.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

I was too nervous to buy a Daisy Chainsaw album because of their name.

kkvgz, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

i think Darlene went to a Daisy Chainsaw concert on an episode of Roseanne

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

I bought Eleventeen and took it back to the store because it was too far out for me. I RE-bought it a couple years later and fell in love with it.

xp yes, she did!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

I bought Eleventeen and took it back to the store because it was too far out for me.

i did that with 36 Chambers :/

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

haha the only record i can remember buying that FREAKED ME OUT was "angel dust" but i persevered

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

also one of the few i ever had to hide from my parents because 1992 was the only year they seemed to give a shit about the parental advisory sticker

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

strongo - I thought my copy of angel dust was actually heatwarped or something so I exchanged it at musicland. Getting it home and hearing the exact same thing was pretty revelatory for me.

kkvgz, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

(note that these transactions involved a 30-minute bike ride each way to the mall in a Maryland summer.)

kkvgz, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

...I even have a Daisy Chainsaw shirt. Never actually saw 'em so it must have been from a friend who worked at A&M.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

ned i kind of imagine your closet as being to band t-shirts what imelda marcos's was to shoes

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

You're not far wrong.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

That said my girlfriend looks askance at some of my choices given their collapsing structural integrity. Then again she somehow ended up with my Bowie/NIN tour shirt, so.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

pix!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

Great, another Tumblr.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

haha I thought Daisy Chainsaw was a made-up sitcom band. next you're gonna tell me Eu4oria is a real drug.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

well, it is....under a different name.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

daisy chainsaw IS exactly the kind of band darlene connor would have been listening to

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

True, but not the neighbor girl who got in those guys' van (also not Daisy Chainsaw material, those guys).

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

Who knew, they had another video at least:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAhWI4BWBvM

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

They actually even made a second album after Katie Jane left. (Not a good one, though.)

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

"a very special episode of roseanne...featuring music from prolapse and therapy?"

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

Haha, I haven't thought about Daisy Chainsaw in a long time. There used to be a vocal contingent of Queen Adreena fans on another message board I used to frequent years ago, it was quite a surprise when I made that connection.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

There's even a Queen Adreena thread on here. Not a Daisy Chainsaw one (yet, at least):

Queen Adreena - gothic or dud

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

Queenadreena basically picks up right where Katie Jane-era Daisy Chainsaw left off, except some of the songs are much longer.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

Whiney, I think I am just ambivalent about turning thirty two at the end of August.
You're making it too real.

Trip Maker, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

and oh shit, my parents are getting back in town today, better clean up the house!

Trip Maker, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

Man, would love to see some Sifl and Olly reruns; IMO that was the best of their weird homegrown TV shows

frogbs, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

there was a noticeable lack of sifl and olly.

Trip Maker, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

I have no idea how I LOVED sifl & Olly but loathe Tim & Eric.

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

socks imo

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

Sifl & Olly was just innocently funny. Tim & Eric is all *wink wink* "we're SOOOO clever!"

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

sifl and olly was just goofy fuck-around cable-access shit that somehow found its way on basic cable, like so much i loved in the '90s.

tim and eric is like...self-conscious art-comedy. or something

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

or what johnny f said.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

sifl and olly also feels like the tail-end of a certain knowing-but-not-toxic '90s aesthetic whereas for better or worse tim and eric is VERY '00s.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

sifl and olly was just goofy fuck-around cable-access shit that somehow found its way on basic cable, like so much i loved in the '90s.

fuck, remember ODDVILLE?

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Was waiting and waiting for the Rosie Perez going bipolar on racism psa. it never came up.

≝ (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha jesus, oddville.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

this just popped into my fb feed, speaking of

http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/400665/jimmy-the-cab-driver-ironic.jhtml#id=1613860

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, i think the 90s were defined by this attitude of "lets do something cool and punky and a little arty, since we're lucky to be on the company dime for once and probably never again." It def defined like Spike Jones and Michel Gondry videos, TV shows like Mr. Show and Sifl&Olly, the design of Coop and Kozik, the careers of bands from Melvins up through Smashing Pumpkins.

The 00s are defined by entitled kids growing up with the EXPECTATION of their art validated by corporations, which is why Cool Kids will bend over backwards to have an Mountain Dew logo on their album cover, or Tim & Eric can make a whole show without any jokes.

In a way, Louis CK's new show is very 90s.

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

I bought Eleventeen and took it back to the store because it was too far out for me.
i did that with 36 Chambers :/

― james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, August 1, 2011 3:36 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark

:-o

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link


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