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strongo - I thought my copy of angel dust was actually heatwarped or something so I exchanged it at musicland. Getting it home and hearing the exact same thing was pretty revelatory for me.

kkvgz, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

(note that these transactions involved a 30-minute bike ride each way to the mall in a Maryland summer.)

kkvgz, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

...I even have a Daisy Chainsaw shirt. Never actually saw 'em so it must have been from a friend who worked at A&M.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

ned i kind of imagine your closet as being to band t-shirts what imelda marcos's was to shoes

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

You're not far wrong.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

That said my girlfriend looks askance at some of my choices given their collapsing structural integrity. Then again she somehow ended up with my Bowie/NIN tour shirt, so.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

pix!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

Great, another Tumblr.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

haha I thought Daisy Chainsaw was a made-up sitcom band. next you're gonna tell me Eu4oria is a real drug.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

well, it is....under a different name.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

daisy chainsaw IS exactly the kind of band darlene connor would have been listening to

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

True, but not the neighbor girl who got in those guys' van (also not Daisy Chainsaw material, those guys).

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

Who knew, they had another video at least:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAhWI4BWBvM

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

They actually even made a second album after Katie Jane left. (Not a good one, though.)

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

"a very special episode of roseanne...featuring music from prolapse and therapy?"

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

Haha, I haven't thought about Daisy Chainsaw in a long time. There used to be a vocal contingent of Queen Adreena fans on another message board I used to frequent years ago, it was quite a surprise when I made that connection.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

There's even a Queen Adreena thread on here. Not a Daisy Chainsaw one (yet, at least):

Queen Adreena - gothic or dud

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

Queenadreena basically picks up right where Katie Jane-era Daisy Chainsaw left off, except some of the songs are much longer.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 August 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

Whiney, I think I am just ambivalent about turning thirty two at the end of August.
You're making it too real.

Trip Maker, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

and oh shit, my parents are getting back in town today, better clean up the house!

Trip Maker, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

Man, would love to see some Sifl and Olly reruns; IMO that was the best of their weird homegrown TV shows

frogbs, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

there was a noticeable lack of sifl and olly.

Trip Maker, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

I have no idea how I LOVED sifl & Olly but loathe Tim & Eric.

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

socks imo

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

Sifl & Olly was just innocently funny. Tim & Eric is all *wink wink* "we're SOOOO clever!"

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

sifl and olly was just goofy fuck-around cable-access shit that somehow found its way on basic cable, like so much i loved in the '90s.

tim and eric is like...self-conscious art-comedy. or something

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

or what johnny f said.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

sifl and olly also feels like the tail-end of a certain knowing-but-not-toxic '90s aesthetic whereas for better or worse tim and eric is VERY '00s.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

sifl and olly was just goofy fuck-around cable-access shit that somehow found its way on basic cable, like so much i loved in the '90s.

fuck, remember ODDVILLE?

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Was waiting and waiting for the Rosie Perez going bipolar on racism psa. it never came up.

≝ (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha jesus, oddville.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

this just popped into my fb feed, speaking of

http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/400665/jimmy-the-cab-driver-ironic.jhtml#id=1613860

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, i think the 90s were defined by this attitude of "lets do something cool and punky and a little arty, since we're lucky to be on the company dime for once and probably never again." It def defined like Spike Jones and Michel Gondry videos, TV shows like Mr. Show and Sifl&Olly, the design of Coop and Kozik, the careers of bands from Melvins up through Smashing Pumpkins.

The 00s are defined by entitled kids growing up with the EXPECTATION of their art validated by corporations, which is why Cool Kids will bend over backwards to have an Mountain Dew logo on their album cover, or Tim & Eric can make a whole show without any jokes.

In a way, Louis CK's new show is very 90s.

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

I bought Eleventeen and took it back to the store because it was too far out for me.
i did that with 36 Chambers :/

― james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, August 1, 2011 3:36 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark

:-o

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

lol i had NO IDEA that jimmy the cab driver was donal logue until right now

i think the 90s were defined by this attitude of "lets do something cool and punky and a little arty, since we're lucky to be on the company dime for once and probably never again."

agree with this btw. was definitely building throughout the '80s but yeah.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

i think the 90s were defined by this attitude of "lets do something cool and punky and a little arty, since we're lucky to be on the company dime for once and probably never again."

http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/images/covers/green-jelly-cereal-killer.jpg

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

hoos, i was a huuuuuge rap nerd from 88 to 92. When I started getting my teenage identity-crisis growing pains in the wake of the Chronic, I felt like a music about inner city tribulations and smoking endo and whatever just wasn't being made FOR me. I didn't relate anymore. I needed Ministry and Faith No More or whatever

For a short while, I became a rockist (an alt-rockist, tbh) and by like age 15 or whatever, getting a CD of a bunch of dudes sitting around a microphone going "Yo Meth where my Killa Tape at God?" (what?!) just sounded like lazy, retarded, stupid bullshit to me.

Obviously, I changed my tune about a year later.

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

soto, we could probably have a whole thread of 90s "lets do something cool and punky and a little arty, since we're lucky to be on the company dime for once and probably never again."

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

lots of Britpop qualifies tbh

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

well i mean hell hype williams counts in this regard too

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

"In a way, Louis CK's new show is very 90s."

only if the next episode he goes skydiving with dan cortese while screaming, "I'm gonna dip my BALLS in it"

Philip Nunez, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

haha well in terms of "never being on the company dime again" i think we can say the state crew won, even if the victory gets a little pyrrhic at times.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

A lot of those dudes are STILL on Viacom's dime!

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

yeah that's what i meant

i think

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

has anyone ever seen Austin Stories since it was on? I'm curious how that holds up

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

most of them are also still not funny

xp

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

also agreed sifl and ollie were the shit

performance art, performance art...bringing mannequin parts...to the park

om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

sifl and olly also feels like the tail-end of a certain knowing-but-not-toxic '90s aesthetic whereas for better or worse tim and eric is VERY '00s.

One of the things I noticed about T&E videos is that everything seemed so very deliberate, all their "screw-ups" seem very rehearsed, whereas S&O really did seem like "we have a week to make this, so we don't have time for re-writes or second takes". The "Songs of Season 1" disc is still a favorite of mine. I love how they did songs like "Gravy for Baby" which were only like half-thought out and seemed like you were hearing them trying it for the first time.

frogbs, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

haha well in terms of "never being on the company dime again" i think we can say the state crew won, even if the victory gets a little pyrrhic at times.

I wanted to get on these guys for being such shitty directors, but it turns out that they know that movies like "Night at the Museum" are shit and do it anyway because it pays so well

frogbs, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link


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