Was waiting and waiting for the Rosie Perez going bipolar on racism psa. it never came up.
― ≝ (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha jesus, oddville.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
this just popped into my fb feed, speaking of
http://www.mtv.com/videos/misc/400665/jimmy-the-cab-driver-ironic.jhtml#id=1613860
I mean, i think the 90s were defined by this attitude of "lets do something cool and punky and a little arty, since we're lucky to be on the company dime for once and probably never again." It def defined like Spike Jones and Michel Gondry videos, TV shows like Mr. Show and Sifl&Olly, the design of Coop and Kozik, the careers of bands from Melvins up through Smashing Pumpkins.
The 00s are defined by entitled kids growing up with the EXPECTATION of their art validated by corporations, which is why Cool Kids will bend over backwards to have an Mountain Dew logo on their album cover, or Tim & Eric can make a whole show without any jokes.
In a way, Louis CK's new show is very 90s.
― james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I bought Eleventeen and took it back to the store because it was too far out for me.i did that with 36 Chambers :/
― james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, August 1, 2011 3:36 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark
:-o
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i had NO IDEA that jimmy the cab driver was donal logue until right now
i think the 90s were defined by this attitude of "lets do something cool and punky and a little arty, since we're lucky to be on the company dime for once and probably never again."
agree with this btw. was definitely building throughout the '80s but yeah.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/images/covers/green-jelly-cereal-killer.jpg
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
hoos, i was a huuuuuge rap nerd from 88 to 92. When I started getting my teenage identity-crisis growing pains in the wake of the Chronic, I felt like a music about inner city tribulations and smoking endo and whatever just wasn't being made FOR me. I didn't relate anymore. I needed Ministry and Faith No More or whatever
For a short while, I became a rockist (an alt-rockist, tbh) and by like age 15 or whatever, getting a CD of a bunch of dudes sitting around a microphone going "Yo Meth where my Killa Tape at God?" (what?!) just sounded like lazy, retarded, stupid bullshit to me.
Obviously, I changed my tune about a year later.
― james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
soto, we could probably have a whole thread of 90s "lets do something cool and punky and a little arty, since we're lucky to be on the company dime for once and probably never again."
― james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
lots of Britpop qualifies tbh
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
well i mean hell hype williams counts in this regard too
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
"In a way, Louis CK's new show is very 90s."
only if the next episode he goes skydiving with dan cortese while screaming, "I'm gonna dip my BALLS in it"
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
haha well in terms of "never being on the company dime again" i think we can say the state crew won, even if the victory gets a little pyrrhic at times.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
A lot of those dudes are STILL on Viacom's dime!
― james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah that's what i meant
i think
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prfRH01iG1U
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
has anyone ever seen Austin Stories since it was on? I'm curious how that holds up
― om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
most of them are also still not funny
xp
― Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
also agreed sifl and ollie were the shit
performance art, performance art...bringing mannequin parts...to the park
― om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
sifl and olly also feels like the tail-end of a certain knowing-but-not-toxic '90s aesthetic whereas for better or worse tim and eric is VERY '00s.
One of the things I noticed about T&E videos is that everything seemed so very deliberate, all their "screw-ups" seem very rehearsed, whereas S&O really did seem like "we have a week to make this, so we don't have time for re-writes or second takes". The "Songs of Season 1" disc is still a favorite of mine. I love how they did songs like "Gravy for Baby" which were only like half-thought out and seemed like you were hearing them trying it for the first time.
― frogbs, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I wanted to get on these guys for being such shitty directors, but it turns out that they know that movies like "Night at the Museum" are shit and do it anyway because it pays so well
― frogbs, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link
the mtv wiki is filled with wonderful nuggets btw
The fact that at the time rock music fans were less materialists and bought less music based on television suggestion were cited as reasons that MTV abandoned its once staple music.
oh, i see.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I haven't, but one of my friends moved to LA and ended up being bffs with Chip. He's a cool guy.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
woah!
― om nom nom nnamdi asomugha (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
As a result, MTV's viewers became familiar with the names of Spike Jonze, Michel Gondry, David Fincher, Samuel Bayer, Matt Mahurin, Mark Romanek, Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Faris, Anton Corbijn, Mark Pellington, Tarsem, Hype Williams, Jake Scott, Jonathan Glazer, Marcus Nispel, F. Gary Gray, Jim Yukich, Russell Mulcahy, Steve Barron and Marty Callner, among others.
terrifying to me how many of these people still delight/horrify us regularly at the cinema now.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
list forgot Brett Ratner lol
― james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, Gore Verbinski.
― kkvgz, Monday, 1 August 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i do feel bad for all those kids who went to film school with me in the late '90s and assumed that directing music videos would continue to be a profitable career after they graduated.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
or writing about music
― james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
"i knew you grew up thinking you'd get to make your own 'closer' one day, but ten years from now you'll be lucky to get a case of beer and a pat on the head for directing a best coast video that will be a one-day-only feature on pitchfork tv."
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
pitch... fork?
― Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
so i was just recounting to my friend the other day how i remember kurt loder reporting keith haring's death on mtv news in 1990 (even though i was six and it was the first time i'd ever heard of him, and looking back maybe the first time i ever heard of AIDS?), and it was weird for all of us to imagine that there was a time when mtv had a tentative finger on like downtown nyc art circles (even tho by the time he died i guess KH had become known worldwide for the berlin wall graffiti)
― rameau: first blood (donna rouge), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^surely the Haring ref was cuz of Madonna tbf
― Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
tho i do think a few downtown nyc types found their way onto mtv via bumper animations and the like in the '80s
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
the first time i ever heard of AIDS was like at age 7 when I wanted to be "blood brothers" with my best friend and he told me about new risks that made the age old ritual impossible
― james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
has that andy warhol show from the '80s ever found its way to the surface? there were only a couple of eps right?
― rameau: first blood (donna rouge), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
tho i do think a few downtown nyc types found their way onto mtv via bumper animations and the like in the '80s― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, August 1, 2011 1:17 PM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, August 1, 2011 1:17 PM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
The MTV30 thing played the bumper Robert Longo did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn5iKVB6g5U
― james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
also yeah i guess a lot of those dudes also made videos (william wegman, robert longo etc)
lol xp
― rameau: first blood (donna rouge), Monday, 1 August 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.deadline.com/2011/07/mtv-greenlights-dumb-girls-comedy-pilot/
― kkvgz, Monday, 1 August 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
controversial titles
― kkvgz, Monday, 1 August 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link
great monday thread, keep it goin
― james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 1 August 2011 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link
man i gotta say every time i tune into a new mtv sitcom/drama i am 0_o at how explicit they are. not in a THIS CHANNEL IS DESTROYING THE FABRIC OF SOCIETY kinda way. just amazement at how much they can get away with now.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess that is true across the board, tv-wise, but still.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I lol'd at the dearth of applause after Madonna's SHOCKING and ICONIC "Like a Virgin performance on the first Video Awards. She bascially just rolls on the floor for a few minutes, it's great, and then ten people clapped.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 1 August 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Britney looked great wearing her vagina in her Oops I Did it Again VMA performance.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 1 August 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
haha yeah madonna humping the floor is definitely one of those "my, how far we've come..." moments.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
What is MTV going to be like in 2019 for today's kids to be forced to get all nostalgiac for like Teen Mom and Teen Wolf and shit?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 1 August 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
grade school mom and the real world: off-world colony
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 1 August 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
LOL OLDS
― J0rdan S., Monday, 1 August 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
most ppl i know who watched mtv a lot in the post-video ere just ended up not watching it & aren't really nostalgic for real world-road rules challenges
i think the last thing ppl got rightfully nostalgic about was trl
― J0rdan S., Monday, 1 August 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link