MTV - classic or dud?

lots of Britpop qualifies tbh

well i mean hell hype williams counts in this regard too

"In a way, Louis CK's new show is very 90s."

only if the next episode he goes skydiving with dan cortese while screaming, "I'm gonna dip my BALLS in it"

haha well in terms of "never being on the company dime again" i think we can say the state crew won, even if the victory gets a little pyrrhic at times.

A lot of those dudes are STILL on Viacom's dime!

yeah that's what i meant

i think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prfRH01iG1U

has anyone ever seen Austin Stories since it was on? I'm curious how that holds up

most of them are also still not funny

xp

also agreed sifl and ollie were the shit

performance art, performance art...bringing mannequin parts...to the park

sifl and olly also feels like the tail-end of a certain knowing-but-not-toxic '90s aesthetic whereas for better or worse tim and eric is VERY '00s.

One of the things I noticed about T&E videos is that everything seemed so very deliberate, all their "screw-ups" seem very rehearsed, whereas S&O really did seem like "we have a week to make this, so we don't have time for re-writes or second takes". The "Songs of Season 1" disc is still a favorite of mine. I love how they did songs like "Gravy for Baby" which were only like half-thought out and seemed like you were hearing them trying it for the first time.

haha well in terms of "never being on the company dime again" i think we can say the state crew won, even if the victory gets a little pyrrhic at times.

I wanted to get on these guys for being such shitty directors, but it turns out that they know that movies like "Night at the Museum" are shit and do it anyway because it pays so well

the mtv wiki is filled with wonderful nuggets btw

The fact that at the time rock music fans were less materialists and bought less music based on television suggestion were cited as reasons that MTV abandoned its once staple music.

oh, i see.

has anyone ever seen Austin Stories since it was on? I'm curious how that holds up

I haven't, but one of my friends moved to LA and ended up being bffs with Chip. He's a cool guy.

woah!

As a result, MTV's viewers became familiar with the names of Spike Jonze, Michel Gondry, David Fincher, Samuel Bayer, Matt Mahurin, Mark Romanek, Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Faris, Anton Corbijn, Mark Pellington, Tarsem, Hype Williams, Jake Scott, Jonathan Glazer, Marcus Nispel, F. Gary Gray, Jim Yukich, Russell Mulcahy, Steve Barron and Marty Callner, among others.

terrifying to me how many of these people still delight/horrify us regularly at the cinema now.

list forgot Brett Ratner lol

Also, Gore Verbinski.

i do feel bad for all those kids who went to film school with me in the late '90s and assumed that directing music videos would continue to be a profitable career after they graduated.

or writing about music

"i knew you grew up thinking you'd get to make your own 'closer' one day, but ten years from now you'll be lucky to get a case of beer and a pat on the head for directing a best coast video that will be a one-day-only feature on pitchfork tv."

pitch... fork?

so i was just recounting to my friend the other day how i remember kurt loder reporting keith haring's death on mtv news in 1990 (even though i was six and it was the first time i'd ever heard of him, and looking back maybe the first time i ever heard of AIDS?), and it was weird for all of us to imagine that there was a time when mtv had a tentative finger on like downtown nyc art circles (even tho by the time he died i guess KH had become known worldwide for the berlin wall graffiti)

^^^surely the Haring ref was cuz of Madonna tbf

tho i do think a few downtown nyc types found their way onto mtv via bumper animations and the like in the '80s

the first time i ever heard of AIDS was like at age 7 when I wanted to be "blood brothers" with my best friend and he told me about new risks that made the age old ritual impossible

has that andy warhol show from the '80s ever found its way to the surface? there were only a couple of eps right?

tho i do think a few downtown nyc types found their way onto mtv via bumper animations and the like in the '80s

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The MTV30 thing played the bumper Robert Longo did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn5iKVB6g5U

also yeah i guess a lot of those dudes also made videos (william wegman, robert longo etc)

lol xp

http://www.deadline.com/2011/07/mtv-greenlights-dumb-girls-comedy-pilot/

controversial titles

great monday thread, keep it goin

man i gotta say every time i tune into a new mtv sitcom/drama i am 0_o at how explicit they are. not in a THIS CHANNEL IS DESTROYING THE FABRIC OF SOCIETY kinda way. just amazement at how much they can get away with now.

i guess that is true across the board, tv-wise, but still.

I lol'd at the dearth of applause after Madonna's SHOCKING and ICONIC "Like a Virgin performance on the first Video Awards. She bascially just rolls on the floor for a few minutes, it's great, and then ten people clapped.

Britney looked great wearing her vagina in her Oops I Did it Again VMA performance.

haha yeah madonna humping the floor is definitely one of those "my, how far we've come..." moments.

What is MTV going to be like in 2019 for today's kids to be forced to get all nostalgiac for like Teen Mom and Teen Wolf and shit?

grade school mom and the real world: off-world colony

LOL OLDS

most ppl i know who watched mtv a lot in the post-video ere just ended up not watching it & aren't really nostalgic for real world-road rules challenges

i think the last thing ppl got rightfully nostalgic about was trl

the end to that madonna performance was pretty awkward!

i used to watch a lot of mtv when i was younger iirc

real world new orleans 4 ever

dave holmes

man i gotta say every time i tune into a new mtv sitcom/drama i am 0_o at how explicit they are. not in a THIS CHANNEL IS DESTROYING THE FABRIC OF SOCIETY kinda way. just amazement at how much they can get away with now.

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i dunno, i dont think anything on MTV right now is as explicit as Undressed was, save maybe Skins, which tanked

tom green show

I don't know anyone IRL - adult, teenager or child - who has regularly watched or given a shit about anything on MTV since the late 90s.

what's tom green doing now? i'm guessing semi-popular podcast

Shakey Mo, get the fuck out of here