Taking sides: the music of the 80s vs. the music of the 90s

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but my son tells me that the early 90s was a golden era for R&B. he's been dragging out my new jack swing CDs

chief content officer (m coleman), Thursday, 18 August 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago)

the early 90s was a golden era

ç(° ·· °)ↄ CRUEL HAND OF FATE O YEAH █▬▬ (Lamp), Thursday, 18 August 2011 00:40 (thirteen years ago)

every era is a golden era, but only in some does the gold become popular

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 August 2011 00:43 (thirteen years ago)

take it to the economics thread

10/11 of a dead jesus (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 August 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago)

The earnestness of pop in the nineties is the biggest drag was a fucking relief

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 August 2011 00:56 (thirteen years ago)

http://worldsoforos.com/secondviews/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/aerosmith-pump-front.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 August 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago)

The earnestness of pop in the nineties is the biggest drag was a fucking relief

why?

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 August 2011 00:58 (thirteen years ago)

have you ever met this guy?

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 August 2011 00:59 (thirteen years ago)

I rep for a lotta shit that a lot of you probably hate i.e. Paula Cole/Natalie Merchant/Sarah M./Tori Amos - one thing I loved about the mid-nineties was also what made it so loltastic, the earnestness, the engagement, the naivete...Axl Rose appearing with Tom Petty to sing "Free Falling" at the VMAs...I love a lot of great 80s music don't get me wrong but...c'mon...Axl Rose, the VMAs, "Free Falling"

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:00 (thirteen years ago)

why?

because the self-seriousness of a lot of 80s shit & its pretentions - I use "pretentions" here with malice aforethought - renders even some of its best music a fucking chore. I like 80s Bryan Ferry albums precisely because I believe in their earnestness - the concluding verse of "Slave to Love" - give me that vibe over wit & 'tude all day

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:02 (thirteen years ago)

man i AM an earnest pussy. i don't want to listen to music made by ME.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:03 (thirteen years ago)

TS
1. Talking Heads - Remain in Light
2. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
3. Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain
4. Kate Bush - Hounds of Love
5. Prince - Sign “O” the Times
6. R.E.M. - Murmur
7. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
8. Kraftwerk - Computer World
9. Michael Jackson - Thriller
10. Pixies – Doolittle

THE ILX 1980s ALBUM POLL

VS

1: MY BLOODY VALENTINE - Loveless
2: WU-TANG CLAN - Enter the 36 Chambers
3: MAGNETIC FIELDS - 69 Love Songs
4: PULP - Different Class
5: RADIOHEAD - OK Computer
6: DJ SHADOW - Entroducing
7: TRICKY - Maxinquaye
8: NAS - Illmatic
9: BELLE AND SEBASTIAN - If You're Feeling Sinister
10: BOARDS OF CANADA - Music Has the Right To Children

THE 1990s POLL RESULTS - THE ALBUMS

the wheelie king (wk), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago)

lol @ those lists

the wheelie king (wk), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:04 (thirteen years ago)

im sorry... but only 1 decade gave us U 2 ... i am voting for the 90's and zooropa.

michael, Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:05 (thirteen years ago)

i love EVERY album on the 80s list.

the 90s list has belle and sebastian.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:05 (thirteen years ago)

holy shit @ that 90s list

Euler, Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:06 (thirteen years ago)

b-b-b-but you're an earnest pussy! xp

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:06 (thirteen years ago)

can't wait for the decade that will taketh away
xpost

the wheelie king (wk), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:06 (thirteen years ago)

1. Talking Heads - Remain in Light
2. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
3. Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain

this is just like...please bend over and allow yourself to be spanked, 1990s.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:08 (thirteen years ago)

a) wk shouldve used louis's alternate cannon 90s list if he was being fair
b) i havent heard most of those 80s records so i cant say but the 90s one has lots of p good albums
c) being a teenager in the 80s wouldve been terrible so the 80s cant have good music

ç(° ·· °)ↄ CRUEL HAND OF FATE O YEAH █▬▬ (Lamp), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:08 (thirteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure being a teenager in the '80s was exactly like an awesome john hughes movie

the wheelie king (wk), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

canadian music of the 80s vs. the canadian music of the 90s

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

i am pretty sure being a teenager sucked a lot more in the 1880s than the 1980s

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

unless you really enjoyed working a plow

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:09 (thirteen years ago)

1. Talking Heads - Remain in Light

it's fine, don't care if I never hear it again

2. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back

A+

3. Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain

A+

4. Kate Bush - Hounds of Love

hated it then, hate it now

5. Prince - Sign “O” the Times

A

6. R.E.M. - Murmur

don't care

7. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation

a solid B+

8. Kraftwerk - Computer World

big up to the 5th best Kraftwerk album

9. Michael Jackson - Thriller

A+

10. Pixies – Doolittle

big up to the album that made everybody say "God, Surfer Rosa was awesome"

THE ILX 1980s ALBUM POLL

VS

1: MY BLOODY VALENTINE - Loveless

a grudging A+ from the fun-hater patrol

2: WU-TANG CLAN - Enter the 36 Chambers

A+

3: MAGNETIC FIELDS - 69 Love Songs

A

4: PULP - Different Class

A+

5: RADIOHEAD - OK Computer

don't wanna say A+ but that airbag saved my liiiiiife

6: DJ SHADOW - Entroducing

ok well this is good but there are other 90s records that belong here, where the fuck is the Fix

7: TRICKY - Maxinquaye

never heard it

8: NAS - Illmatic

A+

9: BELLE AND SEBASTIAN - If You're Feeling Sinister

misfiled, belongs in "80s"

10: BOARDS OF CANADA - Music Has the Right To Children

don't know it but am giving it an A+, what can you say, grade inflation

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:10 (thirteen years ago)

they didnt have teenagers in the 1880s

ç(° ·· °)ↄ CRUEL HAND OF FATE O YEAH █▬▬ (Lamp), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:10 (thirteen years ago)

someone's in a trolling mood!

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

"it's fine, don't care if I never hear it again"

fuck you

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

being a teenager in the 80s wouldve been terrible so the 80s cant have good music

I shot coke in an airplane bathroom in the 80s, let me assure you that being a teenager in the 80s was awesome

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

im pretty sure being a teenager in the '80s was exactly like an awesome john hughes movie

yeah exactly it wouldve been terrible, like being a prison inside of disney world where you can only eat french fries so much despair

ç(° ·· °)ↄ CRUEL HAND OF FATE O YEAH █▬▬ (Lamp), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago)

voted 80s b/c that 90s digital sheen doesn't yet sound good to me, plus I was there & I dunno, my fainter nostalgia for the 80s proffers more mystery & less RHCP

Euler, Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:12 (thirteen years ago)

not really ridiculously easy if you were at all into rave/UK breakbeat/jungle/drum n bass/trip-hop

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Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:12 (thirteen years ago)

someone's in a trolling mood!

you gotta get up pretty early in the morning if you wanna beat mookieproof :(

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:12 (thirteen years ago)

aero i dont know how to tell you this but teenagers did drugs in the 90s too

i know, i know

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

like being a prison inside of disney world where you can only eat french fries so much despair

I dunno, that sounds kind of appealing. Is Molly Ringwald there?

the wheelie king (wk), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

But 80s pop >>> 90s pop

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

i was a teenager in the 80s and there was neither coke nor john hughes ;_;

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

should prb lay off the molly ringwald joeks tbh

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:13 (thirteen years ago)

I shot coke in an airplane bathroom in the 80s, let me assure you that being a teenager in the 80s was awesome

this sounds sad and terrible, just like i imagine being an 80s teen would be

ç(° ·· °)ↄ CRUEL HAND OF FATE O YEAH █▬▬ (Lamp), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:14 (thirteen years ago)

wow, I just realized that no good teen movies came out while I was in high school

the wheelie king (wk), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:14 (thirteen years ago)

should prb lay off the molly ringwald joeks tbh

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:14 (thirteen years ago)

aero i dont know how to tell you this but teenagers did drugs in the 90s too

I don't count E as a drug it's more like eating extra cookies

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:14 (thirteen years ago)

sadly i have no way of knowing if our coke was better or worse than in the 80s

i have a feeling our heroin was better

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:15 (thirteen years ago)

on IPad so not gonna link but we need some 90s Woodstock gifs to round the picture out

also thread should auto play "Pets"

Euler, Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:15 (thirteen years ago)

this sounds sad and terrible, just like i imagine being an 80s teen would be

you are fronting, you know you picture me fixing in the direct flight from LA to PDX and you think "man that underrated aerosmith is one awesome teen"

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:16 (thirteen years ago)

I shot coke just to watch him die

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

mmm cookies

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

i have a feeling our heroin was better

wait which is "our"? in the mid-eighties the shift from brown powder to black tar took place and the strength skyrocketed, though whether this is "better" is kind of like "is weed better now" because the black tar just knocks you flat out and you get addicted about 5x faster, kinda like we have discussed re: weed here...it's stronger, but you kinda have to trade in your life to do it regularly now

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

here is a list of 90s albums i think are really good, probably better than r.e.m. at least:

nachtstrom - 17 songs after midnight (mego/1999)
the notorious b.i.g. - life after death (bad boy/1997)
the geto boys - s/t (def american/1990)
morcheeba - big calm (sire/1998)
sweet exorcist - spirit guide to low-tech (touch/1994)
plastikman - sheet one (novamute/1993)
the weakerthans - fallow (G7 welcoming committee/1997)
the throwing muses - the real ramona (4AD/1991)
pharcyde - bizarre ride II the pharycde (delicious vinyl/1992)
sonic youth - washing machine (dgc/1995)

ç(° ·· °)ↄ CRUEL HAND OF FATE O YEAH █▬▬ (Lamp), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:17 (thirteen years ago)

because the self-seriousness of a lot of 80s shit & its pretentions - I use "pretentions" here with malice aforethought - renders even some of its best music a fucking chore. I like 80s Bryan Ferry albums precisely because I believe in their earnestness - the concluding verse of "Slave to Love" - give me that vibe over wit & 'tude all day

We're arguing from two different points of views -- especially since I'm a guy who likes eighties Ferry albums -- but let's talk about shooting coke.

a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 August 2011 01:18 (thirteen years ago)


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