neil young

Oh c'mon, Welfare Mothers is great! My favorite Neil Young throwaway.

DIVORCEE

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

a 3-way tie this time then.

Fair result.

Wait. Zuma should've been much higher, though.

c'est vrai

Someone voted for Everybody's Rockin' again.

One vote for "Zuma"! No way!! This poll is corrupt!!!

"On the Beach" - there's an ILM album if ever there was one

Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.

The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.

So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.

I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:

How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".

Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.

When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."

And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.

Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"

On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now

hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.

i will never learn the ilm html tags...

weird

it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles

In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.

CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.

Dead Man = Neil's best electric work?

look at the bill for this thing
http://www.vancouver2010.com/more-2010-information/cultural-festivals-and-events/event-listings/hal-willner's-neil-young-project-_70660zv.html

I'm assuming thats a different Chris Brown, otherwise o_O

yeah, probably?
a mix of eh, cool! and whaaaa?
Sam Beam of Iron & Wine
Chris Brown
Vashti Bunyan
Robert Burger
Brendan Canning
Fred Cash
Jason Collett
Julie Doiron
Kevin Drew
Sam Goldberg
Shahzad Ismaily
Eric Mingus
Sun Kil Moon
Jenni Muldaur
Ambrosia Parsley
Justin Peroff
Ben Perowsky
Joan as Policewoman
Elizabeth Powell
Bill Priddle
Lou Reed
Alasdair Roberts
Ron Sexsmith
Teddy Thompson
James Blood Ulmer
Andrew Whiteman
Doug Wieselman

hoping for a mingus/blood ulmer/reed jam on down by the river

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j//msnbc/Components/Video/071107/tdy_chrisbrown_song3_071107.vmodv4.jpg

A MAAAAAAAAAID

Yeah, some good names on there and some wtf ones as well. I scanned it quickly the first time and saw "Bill Priddle" as "Mark Prindle".

http://celeb.wohoo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/chris-brown.jpg
can i get a heart of gooooold?

IT'S THE WOMAN IN YOU THAT MAKES YOU WANNA PLAY THIS GAAAAAME!

TAKE IT, ULMER!

haha

wish they would substitute teddy thompson for richard thompson

Neil Young and Bert Jansch, May 24 at DAR Constitution Hall ($83.50-$193.50)

Don't think I want to spend that much to see him on this solo tour.

great bill tho

man i would love to see bert jansch

Neil has always been at the vanguard of steep ticket prices.

geez that is a ridiculous ticket price

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8nveweVvh0

there is a single $248 seat available at the worcester mass show

thank god I have plans that night

i didn't go see neil the last time he was in town because tix were $100 bucks ... i had just bought the archives so I had blown my neil budget for the year, really.

I missed this poll. I realize that there's no accounting for personal taste, but I do find it unsettling that somebody counts Everybody's Rockin' as his/her favourite Neil Young album.

The cheap seats here in Houston are $69 w/service charge. The big problem though is it's a frontgate event and they don't have outlets in town, so you have to either go to the venue (Jones Hall) or purchase online. According to the seating chart, I've got a nice balcony seat.

Not that I'd have voted for it but shocked that Freedom pulled a zero on this one too, esp with Trans pulling in two votes.

ha, didn't even look at these results ... they are a little ridiculous, but what the heck. (Only 1 vote for Zuma?)

Yeah, those too. Everybody's Rockin'-1 and Old Ways-3, and, at the other end, Zuma-1 and Freedom-0--these are all very puzzling. Everything else, even albums I dislike (Trans) or consider overrated (On the Beach), more or less makes sense.

only one vote for harvest 'makes sense'?!

I would say so, yes. I think most people who are going to take the time to vote in a Neil Young poll would choose something else as their favourite. If, on the other hand, you surveyed 100 random music fans, undoubtedly it finishes first.

yeah, i wouldn't vote for harvest as my fave neil young album ... not sure what i'd vote.

You'd think with an environment as committed to scientific results and objectivity as ILM that the poll results would make SOME KIND of SENSE!!

Neil's forthcoming science fiction novel update: it's still forthcoming.

https://americansongwriter.com/neil-youngs-sci-fi-novel-and-his-hilarious-response-about-his-ongoing-project/

Crazy Horse - Early Daze is out today, this is some primo shit, lost CH studio album basically

Nice to hear, can't wait to play it.

great ragged vibes, the CH version of "helpless" is excellent

some of the stuff has been in the archives box sets but hearing it all together as one session everything sound very cohesive

In all honestly, I lost interest in the never-ending parade of Young releases a few years ago--I remember when every new record up till the early-'80s felt like an event--but I would buy that early Crazy Horse record. Didn't know they recorded "Helpless."

What's the story re: the CH "Helpless"? In Shakey they mention a 7-minute version that the engineer failed to record. Was that not true, or did they get another take on tape?

Yeah it's weird - maybe they did it again?

Here's the excerpt:

“Young and the Horse cut “Everybody’s Alone,” “Oh Lonesome Me,” “Wonderin’,” “I Believe in You,” “Birds,” an exquisite version of Whitten’s “Look at All the Things,” as well as an epic ballad called “Helpless” that failed to make it to tape. “We were doing it live, everybody playing and singing at once, and we did about an eight- or nine-minute version of it … with a long instrumental in the middle,” Young told writer Jean-Charles Costa. “And the engineer didn’t press the button down. It was much more free than anything I’ve done onstage.”

Any way, Early Daze is excellent, I'm definitely getting it. I've grown to welcome all of these Neil Young releases because for me they simply replaced what generally happens in unofficial channels, and it's not like I complained when I was a hardcore Dylan collector finding "new" bootlegs every week. They're not for everybody and even diehard fans should be discerning enough not to want everything (just as I never bothered with a good number of Dylan bootlegs/archival releases), but I'm glad it's just out there in the best quality possible. FWIW, I gave Fuckin' Up a chance and I thought it was surprisingly good. I didn't realize it was actually a recording of a private concert he did, and in a way it kind of reflects that appeal - it's a one-off that I'm glad I heard (if not witnessed). I'm not sure if I'll ever get a copy, but I'm glad I gave it a good listen all the way through.

this is not that version of "helpless", it's probably an earlier take – it's about 4 minutes. not mindblowing, but pretty nice!

Early Daze is great but it all should've been on Archives Vol 1 ... it basically took Neil 20 years to put together a deluxe edition of Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere. But now we can cobble that together ourselves!

neil is definitely frustrating with how he does stuff but i'm trying to just kick back with it and listen to it as a record and i think as a set of songs it's a great listening experience

it's funny - i'm semi-passable at playing a couple of his tunes. then i went to a recent open-mic and watched someone turf out doing "powderfinger" on acoustic and thought "nope, i'm not ready yet."

https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/neil-young-official-release-series-vol-5-breakout-releases/

Freedom, the expanded Ragged Glory, Arc, and Weld will be released individually in October.

awesome was hoping for that

Me too, because wanted expanded RG; which one do you want? But that article claims the box is so cheap, why not just get it? Well maybe I'll look for a nice-price second-hand, rated VG (like w some Dylan boxes, if you wait long enough: got Another Self-Portrait Deluxe [CD version] for about $30.00, because of minor packaging damage).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCQisTEdBwY

Neil backed by R.E.M. playing ambulance blues hitting well tonight. They’re no Rusty Kershaw, but they might be the next best thing

i LOVE "don't spook the horse". nice to see it getting another official release as i idiotically flogged my cd single at some point.

Jem Aswad on Archives III (audio only, admits burning out before "11 films on Blu-Ray."):
https://variety.com/2024/music/reviews/neil-young-archives-vol-iii-1976-87-album-review-1236131030/

I'll probably give this a deep listen over the holidays if I can get a copy by then. Aswad's review kind of confirms my suspicions that one deep dive will be enough for the '80s recordings. (In fairness, I already have the Lucky Thirteen compilation and A Treasure, which seems to duplicated in this set, but they're probably all I need from the '80s. As enjoyable as they are, I don't put them on that much.)

The first ten discs do look enticing, especially the 1977 demos on disc four. I already have Hitchhiker, Songs For Judy and Chrome Dreams on top of Comes a Time, Rust Never Sleeps and Live Rust, but they don't overlap nearly as much as I thought they would. (The overlap with those titles are mostly on disc three and ten.) I kind of wish this set was split in two, I would've immediately bought the '70s material on its own, but it was pretty much a given Neil was going to stick to the ten-year span on each one.

https://www.uncut.co.uk/reviews/neil-young-archives-vol-iii-1976-1987-147123/ :

“Pocahontas”, recorded at Ronstadt’s kitchen table, may be the best version of the song.

Did reviewers have another version of the box set or something?

(Or are they confusing Ronstadt's Malibu kitchen table recordings on disc 4 with the Indigo Ranch Studios (also in Malibu) where disc 9's Pocahontas was recorded?)

Archives Vol. III Takes is the sampler---16 tracks, 1 hr. 14 min.:
http://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ku3aYFp3sBXmk2PBl2j2P_suSqsRa44nI

https://pitchfork.com/news/crosby-stills-nash-and-young-to-release-unearthed-album-live-at-fillmore-1969/

^^That's the show that gave us the recording of "Sea of Madness" that was remixed to sound 'more outdoors' and included on the original Woodstock soundtrack album.

I'd only want the expanded Ragged Glory and OK, fine, Weld, and if I buy those two separately from Amazon it's probably $30-31, but I can get the whole box for $45.