Met this guy tonight who said he'd done tarot card readings with Adrian Belew, back in '83 or so
the story just got weirder from there
― geeta, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 07:54 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILSVAUjd5QI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
― nostormo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link
Fripp speaks
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
excellent...wish it was longer
― frogbs, Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
2009 Crimson, with Porcupine Tree drummer as second drummer, was awesome live.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 August 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
so, who is buying the 13 CD, 1 DVD, 1 Blu-Ray of Larks' Tongue In Aspic?
http://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm?entry=3916
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 August 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
Just registered for DJM live site just so I could hear a sparse guide track for "Islands" the song. Boz sounds like he's singing into a cheap condenser mike, but otherwise it's quite lovely.
'Islands' is the worst album ever made by anybody.― dave q, Friday, February 15, 2002 7:00 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
NO.
― Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Monday, 13 August 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
its kind of weird to imagine that King Crimson only played a fixed amount of concerts when they were active. it feels like they're able to just create more and more live bootleg material at will, even if it was phyiscally impossible for them to have played that many dates.
― frogbs, Monday, 13 August 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
So many of them are pretty dodgy quality though, aren't they?
― Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Monday, 13 August 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/lk/l/w/dd360157ea8e506661983ea7336800bc/4330188.gif
― frogbs, Friday, 17 August 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
classic:
'released in three separate editions to satisfy the merely curious and the expectant collector'
― j., Friday, 17 August 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
so, who is buying the 13 CD, 1 DVD, 1 Blu-Ray of /Larks' Tongue In Aspic/?http://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm?entry=3916
http://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm?entry=3916
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 20 August 2012 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWaz8xfFjuE
― Three Word Username, Monday, 20 August 2012 06:50 (twelve years ago) link
Guess Fripperlips is done for good?
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/king-crimson-robert-fripp-quits-music-business/
Hope he enjoys retirement!
― frogbs, Friday, 7 September 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link
He's been retired for a while, I believe. Couple of years? Also, for what it's worth, he was semi-retired for pretty much the second half of the '70s, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, this is not new news.
― How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Friday, 7 September 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
Wait, hold up:
A multi-disc deluxe edition of the 1973 Crimson classic ‘Larks’ Tongues in Aspic’ is set for release in October and will include 13 CD’s, a DVD and a Blu-Ray disc.
13 CDs!?!?!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
Disc details at the bottom of this page: http://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm
― How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Friday, 7 September 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
So basically a bunch of live discs previously sold through the site. That's cool though. Band in the Muir era was neat.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
Wasn't aware Kanye had sampled "Schizoid Man," which Fripp seems pissed he didn't get paid for. Wonder if he ever paid any royalties for quoting "Surrey With The Fringe On Top" in "Moonchild?"
― Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Friday, 7 September 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
I figured Fripp was done, but this is the first time I ever heard him say it (I know he said he wasn't going to tour anymore some 4-5 years ago), maybe I'm just not paying attention
― frogbs, Friday, 7 September 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
Fripp got paid for Schizoid sample, but iirc only after going straight to Kanye and the two of them presenting a united front to the label. He was very careful never to criticize West, even though he could have for not clearing the sample ahead of time.
― How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Friday, 7 September 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
fripp did an album with mel collins and jakko jakwhatsit last year, so he hasn't been retired for 4 years. it was a bit disappointing, definitely not the new lease on KC I think they were hoping for.
― akm, Friday, 7 September 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
Well it certainly wasnt the new lease on KC I was hoping for.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 7 September 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
If the '72-74 lineup reunited I would buy a ticket in about 5 seconds flat. Anything beyond that, I don't really care.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 7 September 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
Pretty sure Cross & Wetton are the only ones game for that.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 7 September 2012 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
I'd be up for another outing of any other combination that the last 2 though (the Jakko one or previous I mean).
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 7 September 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
Fripp has such a narrow comfort range anymore that I wouldn't see him live unless he personally invited me into his living room to hear him play. I don't need the grief while he tries to figure out whether he can midwife any music.
― How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Friday, 7 September 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
Mentioned it before, but the last King Crimson tour I saw - Levin, Belew, Fripp, Mastelotto and the drummer from Porcupine Tree - really was awesome. There was a Fripp-less Crimson that toured with Dream Theater a couple of months ago. Believe it was basically Belew and his all-kid band, plus Levin and Mastelotto.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wpTOxb1nFw
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGJ_IC8OZMo&feature=relmfu
Looks like every one in a while on tour the drummer from Tool sat in for a few songs as second (third?) drummer.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
Why have Belew, Lake, Levin, Gunn, Wetton & Mastelotto never toured together? All of them seem quite happy to tour Crim material sans Fripp.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 8 September 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link
Straightforward q: what do you guys reckon the best live version of 'Fracture'? I remembered the Asbury Park one killing it, but I just listened to it and was kinda not feeling it so much. Haven't dug out the live box in a while.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
The Central Park show the from the folloeing day is to my mind the best, followed by the one of the 2 versions on the Great Deceiver, can't remember which one.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
Thx
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
Central Park = one of the KCCC releases?
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
i would totally go see any lineup, even without fripp, again. missed the belew/levin retrospective lineup thing last time it went though. I would have loved to have seen 21st century schizoid band also (who jakko was in). I think jakko was the wrong person for fripp to bring in for that last release, he's too much of a follower; he's fine, but not distinctive in any way.
― akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno, any approximation of KC without Fripp seems kind of missing the point. I did see 21st Century Schizoid Band and I thought it was fairly pedestrian
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
I have a hard time believing Fripp is truly retired.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 20 September 2012 03:23 (twelve years ago) link
Retired and working harder than ever. He reminds me of a border collie patiently working the livestock (UMG, Sanctuary, etc) into a corral to be taken to slaughter.
― The Jesus and Mary Lizard (WmC), Thursday, 20 September 2012 03:54 (twelve years ago) link
Considering Fripp often lead guitar schools and workshops over the past few decades whose main point appeared to have been indoctrinating students in his precise methods and reshaping them in his (musical) image, it's actually really easy to imagine Crimson without him. Send in the clones!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 September 2012 04:33 (twelve years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_in_Central_Park,_NYCxpost to Jon Lewis
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 20 September 2012 05:34 (twelve years ago) link
yes but according to him they are all hopeless!
xp
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 20 September 2012 08:07 (twelve years ago) link
League of Hopeless Guitarists
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 September 2012 12:11 (twelve years ago) link
Anyway, Belew has really been the dominent component over the past three decades. Fripp is awesome, but other dudes are more than capable of doing what he's been doing.
Anyone ever see any of the ProjeKCts? I saw one configuration that was Fripp on guitar (sounding like a marimba), Trey Gunn on bass, and Belew on drums (the entire night!). It kind of sucked, but it was neat to see something different.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 September 2012 12:14 (twelve years ago) link
Never saw them, but I have the 4CD ProjeKcts box set and I have to say it's given me more listening pleasure than any KC album post-Red.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 20 September 2012 12:39 (twelve years ago) link
I'll be on the lookout for that - the whole ConstruKction of Light era is my personal KC nadir so I try to avoid that, though I admit the live recordings of this period are surprisingly good. The improv on Heavy ConstruKction (the three disc set that ends with Fripp snatching and eating some dude's camera) is the best since the Great Deceiver (or better), I'd say
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 September 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link
He does that on one of the live albums in this ProjeKcts box as well, can't remember which one. The set is worth hunting down just for the liner notes, which as ever are a total hoot.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 20 September 2012 13:56 (twelve years ago) link
Are the liner notes in third person? Fripp is really into that. "At this point our stalwart hero Fripp set down his instrument of choice, took a sip of tea, then flung the remains of the boiling water at the hirsute man in the front with the camera pointed at his face."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
Given that I've only heard Live in Toronto from his tenure, I think Jakko is a colourless singer. He hits the notes and that's it. He's better than Haskell but I'd rather hear even Boz Burrell (if he doesn't try to do scat singing).
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 21 August 2024 00:42 (one month ago) link
He also came across as sullen in the recent documentary, like he was above it all. Maybe allowances should be made since he was going through a divorce at the time.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 21 August 2024 00:43 (one month ago) link
Michael Giles and Ian McDonald wouldn't have been the worst singers Crimson had if they had ended up singing lead on Crimson albums either.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 21 August 2024 00:46 (one month ago) link
Whoa whoa whoa, are we saying Greg Lake wasn’t amazing in his stint with the band???
― frogbs, Wednesday, 21 August 2024 01:07 (one month ago) link
i'm saying lake was extremely terrible everywhere, have i not said how much i hate him?: i hate greg lake and i am right to do so
― mark s, Wednesday, 21 August 2024 09:13 (one month ago) link
hate him
But he believed in Father Christmas!
― carry on columbine (Matt #2), Wednesday, 21 August 2024 11:31 (one month ago) link
Lake and Wetton were good soft rock singers, but I can't stand that choirboy prog style unless they're warbling up in the stratosphere like Jon Anderson. I vote for him as the best KC singer actually, probably a good thing he was only a guest on one album though. Imagine him and Fripp in the same band!
― carry on columbine (Matt #2), Wednesday, 21 August 2024 11:33 (one month ago) link
the Belew erasure here is egregious
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 21 August 2024 13:12 (one month ago) link
unrelenting parade of fvck-awful singers (all of them)
☝️☝️☝️
― mark s, Wednesday, 21 August 2024 13:21 (one month ago) link
the Belew erasure here is egregious― Paul Ponzi
― Paul Ponzi
the problem with belew's singing is that he's singing lyrics he wrote
you know they're aliens because they got lint on their dicks. my dick never had no lint on it, i can tell you that for damn sure.
― Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 21 August 2024 13:43 (one month ago) link
Earthbound, indeed
― sawdust lagoon, Wednesday, 21 August 2024 15:35 (one month ago) link