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Haha Baaderist is ME!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

U/K Search: Robert Smith remix of 'Jewel', btw

― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

See, further proof!

I too was at that Rose Bowl show. Mmm, volume.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw them open for The Cure at the Target Center in Minneapolis in '92 and they were really very good. I actually went to see them more than The Cure (even though I like them just fine) and they got a decently long set (over half an hour anyway from what I can remember). I bought a Wings of Joy shirt and had one funny little guy come up to me in the hall to say hi (I think we were the only two people to buy one that night) and that was kinda nice. My favourite Cranes story: when working at the record store one night (possibly a MOLTEN METAL MONDAY) with my friend STV we played some Cranes and a customer yelled "HEY! THIS SOUNDS LIKE MUSIC TO SAW YOUR ARMS OFF TO!" at us from across the store. We of course (in Beavis and Butthead fashion) said "cool".

― Bryan (Bryan), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WAS AT THAT CONCERT! They were excellent!

There was a song they played near the end of their set that featured the guitarist doing horrifically nasty things to his car while the vocalist pitched a petulant fit into her microphone. The only other Cranes song I've heard that is halfway similar to it is "Lillies" (which I know came out several years later); I would love to find out what song that was because it was fantastic. I would describe it as proto-Korn metal (only good) with a pissed-off Strawberry Shortcake coming down off of a PCP binge on vocals.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember that but I can't remember what song it was! All I remember is my Cure fan friends looking at me like I was fucked in the head for liking them so much. Did you enjoy The Cure's 300 minute version of 'A Forest' at the end of the show, Dan? I think that one song was longer than Cranes' whole set. I sure was glad they were serving beer at that show.

― Bryan (Bryan), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh GOD YES! That was the one where everything but the bass dropped out in the middle of the coda, then Boris added in the Funky Drummer beat from the _Mixed Up_ remix and Robert started riffing off of the album titles! GENIUS. Damn, I wish I had a recording of that.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

So you two have been to Hell, I guess.

― Ian Grey (Ian_G), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I have seen Third Eye Blind in concert! How'd you know?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

If any of you sickos/enthusiasts would like to buy my 3x7" box of "Jewel" off me (a marketing gimmick that got Cranes into the UK Top 30 in '93 or so) for silly money, email me.

(Er, on second thoughts, I think it's a couple of hundred miles away at the moment. Similar Sharkboy box, anyone?)

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm...you DID get that mp3 I have from the same year that has the queasy London version which also goes on forever and has him mentioning the various songtitles from Wish, I trust.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure I did. I'm also surea that that particular mp3 is buried on an unlabelled disc next to my computer.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I wasn't in the London audience screaming "YEAH!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!! COME CLOSER AND SEE, MOTHERFUCKERS! WOOOO!"

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Then clearly it is inferior.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I would describe it as proto-Korn metal (only good) with a pissed-off Strawberry Shortcake coming down off of a PCP binge on vocals.

I am sad that this description hasn't made anyone go, "Oh, I know that song, it's '_______'."

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 01:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe it was "Inescapable" or something. Hm.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Cranes are wonderful, and they're from my area of England too! I feel so proud.

― Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay! I do like the fact that they're still going, because generally speaking I like bands who just keep on keeping on without turning into bad blues cover bands or something. Perhaps.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh, I'll have to dissagree with you there Ned. Their last album was rather disapointing, for one thing. Maybe they'll improve, but I doubt it. I wish they (and a lot of bands, actually) would just quit while they're ahead.

― Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Their last album was rather disapointing, for one thing.

Wah!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, it is. It doesn't even compare to their early stuff. They've lost it.

― Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Nah, I just like the way they find a new calm, it's very entrancing. To be sure, I was also just happy to see them back, and the various reports of the live shows in the States made me most jealous.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 04:38 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

Yay! New album details!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

the new mùm sounds a bit like the cranes.

― keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread has reminded me that I interviewed Alison Shaw and wrote a whole article about the Cranes, like 11 years ago. I had completely forgotten that. (Forgotten her name, too, until I just went and looked it up.) I don't even remember what they sound like, beyond some blurry guitars and gauzy vocals.

― spittle (spittle), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought the were called The Appalling Cranes? Or was that an NME joke?

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

Any BANG BANG MACHINE fans get in touch!
WHO KILLED BANG BANG MACHINE?

― Leigh Smith, Thursday, 8 September 2005 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

I would describe it as proto-Korn metal (only good) with a pissed-off Strawberry Shortcake coming down off of a PCP binge on vocals.

ATTENTION ILM: Please help me identify this song! Is it "Inescapable", as Ned suggests?

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

I know which song you are talking about and still remember them playing it on the Wish tour. It's off "Self Non Self" but right now I can't remember the title.

― Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Thursday, 8 September 2005 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

I think it might be "Heaven or Bliss" or "Beach Mover"?

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

It's all these things and more!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 September 2005 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

it's probably "lilies" although i don't think that's on self-non-self... loved, i think.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 September 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

How was that last alnum? Any good? In the 'Future Songs' vein?

― Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

I liked it. I've got a review on the AMG...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone else hear a bit of the Cranes in Gang Gang Dance? Or am I the only one in the entire world who does (as I suspect...)?

― Jon Benet Taxidermy (piratestyle), Monday, 19 September 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

sounds like jewel. too bad, it's such a great band name.

― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

and, the capsules sound just like this band it's ridiculous.

― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

but I've only listened to future songs.

― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

I would describe it as proto-Korn metal (only good) with a pissed-off Strawberry Shortcake coming down off of a PCP binge on vocals.

ATTENTION ILM: Please help me identify this song! Is it "Inescapable", as Ned suggests?

It might also be "Give" (off the Inescapable EP) which I remember being a set-closer around the same time.

― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Monday, 19 September 2005 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...

In the WTF news of the day -- the Cranes (who are on myspace, but o' course) just sent this around as a bulletin:

Cranes song 'Astronauts' from the 'Particles and Waves' album is going to be included in the opening show for the American Super Bowl ! It's on Sunday 5th February and the song will appear during a pre-taped opening tease featuring athletes and actors reciting lines from Dr. Seuss' "Oh, The Places You'll Go."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

WTF!!! How did I miss that??

Anyway, I've been digging out old Cranes albums recently and I've realized that 'Loved' thoroughly owns the rest of their output.

― baaderonixx, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

YES IT DOES

BTW, has anyone definitively figured out which song I was talking about upthread?

I would describe it as proto-Korn metal (only good) with a pissed-off Strawberry Shortcake coming down off of a PCP binge on vocals.

― HI DERE, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

My favourite Cranes story: when working at the record store one night (possibly a MOLTEN METAL MONDAY) with my friend STV we played some Cranes and a customer yelled "HEY! THIS SOUNDS LIKE MUSIC TO SAW YOUR ARMS OFF TO!" at us from across the store.

amazing ^

I've been playing Forever and Loved all day over here, great fucking albums.

― stephen, Thursday, 22 May 2008 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

This is the band with that horrible female singer isn't it? I'm with Dr. C on that. Never could stand them for a second, though I certainly met plenty of folks who liked them. I'm surprised they weren't lumped in with the shoegazing thing more, as it seems to me they started in that era, right?

― Bimble, Thursday, 22 May 2008 19:42 (seventeen years ago)

Fuck, I found the song I was looking for at one point but now I can't remember what it ended up being. (It definitely predates "Lillies".)

― HI DERE, Thursday, 22 May 2008 19:50 (seventeen years ago)

The mystery song. I say just drop the band a line or something.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 May 2008 19:54 (seventeen years ago)

This is the band with that horrible female singer isn't it?

I think her voice works a lot better with the dense, heavy, layered songs with plenty of bass. Provides a nice contrast to her wispy, sometimes admittedly grating voice. Whereas, wispy song + wispy voice never worked quite so well for me, with this band.

― stephen, Thursday, 22 May 2008 20:03 (seventeen years ago)

^^^^ pretty much OTM, they worked much better when they maximized density (which is why Loved is so much better than the rest of their albums).

― HI DERE, Thursday, 22 May 2008 20:08 (seventeen years ago)

Not sure I totally agree with this. Some of their wispier stuff, eg. 'Paris and Rome', 'Cloudless', is pretty amazing.

― baaderonixx, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:05 (seventeen years ago)

Incidentally, my 50-year-old mother (whose favorite artists are Rascal Flatts, Sugarland, Coldplay and a wide array of contemporary Christian pop/rock) heard a Cranes album in my car this morning (Forever) and *loved* it, especially Alison Shaw's "amazing voice" -- go figure?

(Now then, Bimble, if she can get into it...)

― stephen, Friday, 23 May 2008 21:11 (seventeen years ago)

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Still gods...and now on Bandcamp

https://cranes.bandcamp.com/

2000s albums for now, but various plans are in the works.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:40 (two years ago)

Bless’em

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 5 November 2022 08:40 (two years ago)

five months pass...

Okay, various reissues and things happening...and a 30th anniversary show for Forever, with the original lineup:

https://www.ticketweb.uk/event/cranes-30th-anniversary-show-of-earth-tickets/13090185

Also posted a very nice note about Ray Shulman the other day.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 April 2023 20:15 (two years ago)

£1.75 for "delivery" of etickets. they need Robert Smith on the case

― koogs, Thursday, 6 April 2023 20:34 (two years ago)

Just did a lovely near hour long chat with Ms Shaw. Forthcoming Bandcamp piece in a couple of months.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 April 2023 16:23 (two years ago)

Good. I never did get the album reissues and wondered if there was any particularly good tracks that weren't on the EP collection

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:39 (two years ago)

Xp Nice! I always wondered about her. Did she go back into civilian life then?

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:54 (two years ago)

I didn't get full details re what they're all doing now but sounds like everyone found their own particular paths, and that the last few months brought things back together nicely. (There's more news forthcoming but not yet public; the show is I believe a one-off for now at least.)

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 16 April 2023 20:11 (two years ago)

This sparked a revisit of Wings of Joy (never my fave). I'd forgotten just how beautiful and timeless "Tomorrow's Tears" was.

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 24 April 2023 08:37 (two years ago)

Yeah that intro remains perfect.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 April 2023 11:36 (two years ago)

three weeks pass...

The feature is live!

https://daily.bandcamp.com/features/cranes-alison-shaw-interview-peel-sessions

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 May 2023 18:41 (two years ago)

Thanks

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 22 May 2023 19:00 (two years ago)

Yer welcome

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 May 2023 19:19 (two years ago)

four months pass...

Forever anniversary gig is tonight. I probably should have listened to the album before coming because it's years since I've listened to it, have mostly listened to their early stuff recently

― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 14 October 2023 18:44 (one year ago)

Jealous

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 14 October 2023 19:23 (one year ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DfXd2PsSsM

― MaresNest, Sunday, 22 October 2023 12:49 (one year ago)

three months pass...

And a new reissue here: Fuse, on vinyl for the first time as well:

https://cranes.bandcamp.com/album/fuse

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 17:14 (one year ago)

I never thought this would be reissued

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 20:41 (one year ago)

Really remarkable to see it. I think any further reissues after that would have to go through Cherry Red because I gather they have access to the Dedicated releases (which explains the Chapterhouse box from the other year), but I think that's still in the works. We'll see what follows next!

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 20:50 (one year ago)

Really excited to see them in May

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 21:39 (one year ago)

two months pass...

Saw them last night. The songs are still a joy but the band was pretty rough. Often out of sync and missing cues. But they nailed Starblood. Hope they can play a few more shows and shake things off.

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 07:18 (one year ago)

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