Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion (2009)

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this is pretty awesome. Thought i was past having to listen to these chufters after Strawb. jam, but the Pitchfork shame continues.

what U cry 4 (jim), Sunday, 28 December 2008 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Pitchfork is hilarious. and ridiculous. I don't really trust their reviews for, well, anything. AllMusic is great though.

nominal, Monday, 29 December 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

what a beautiful record. totally worth all the rickrolling and viral shenanigans. the closest analog i hear (besides 'tusk' as mentioned upthread) is later boredoms, especially the euphoric looping of vcn. i have no idea how they make these sounds. i'm curious how sample-based it is, whether along the lines of 'person pitch' or what

kamerad, Monday, 29 December 2008 03:06 (fifteen years ago) link

This album is pretty self-centered and misoginyst: agree/dissagree

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Monday, 29 December 2008 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

its almost racist in its opaque self regard

ice cr?m, Monday, 29 December 2008 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

the only content i've been able to decipher is panda talking about his kids having shoes and stuff. that seems nice?

schlump, Monday, 29 December 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

his kids are named adolf hitler bear and aryan justice bear, so no, its not nice

eman cipation s1ocklamation (max), Monday, 29 December 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

i was also a little concerned about its pavilion-centric iconography

choom gangsta (deej), Monday, 29 December 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

upon repeated listening, i'm pretty sure "also frightened" is the best track on this.

Creeztophair, Monday, 29 December 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

There are some great songs on here, esp. Brothersport, but seriously did they have to make every single song sound like it was recorded underwater? I mean, I'm fine with hella reverb, but jeez switch it up sometimes

also, I do not get anyone's hate for Strawberry Jam

HPSCHD, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 04:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I do not hate Strawberry Jam. It's just that every once in a while one of those songs will come up on my ipod, and I pretty much always have to make it go away. This is not hate.

served by boot-face (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 04:54 (fifteen years ago) link

also, I do not get anyone's hate for Strawberry Jam

innit. you'd think it was a forty minute record consisting solely of symbol sounds that some people found a little too tinny. such a catchy, lively record

schlump, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 05:21 (fifteen years ago) link

most people dont like it because it's animal collective doing "indie rock"

"made smashable" (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 06:12 (fifteen years ago) link

most people that dont like it dont like it because

"made smashable" (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 06:13 (fifteen years ago) link

i lurv strawberry jam.

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 06:50 (fifteen years ago) link

interesting. I wonder what exactly about the sound of SJ hits people's INDIE button that's so diff. from this album (or Feels for that matter)

HPSCHD, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 06:53 (fifteen years ago) link

this is growing on me...i really love the middle of the first track

"made smashable" (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 06:58 (fifteen years ago) link

ya this is great and will prolly be their biggest album, but they were so much better when you couldn't understand the fuck they were saying.

Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 07:47 (fifteen years ago) link

^

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link

The lyrics are much tougher to decipher on this one than on Strawberry Jam, at least on the Avey Tare songs.

Hatch, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link

on first listen, i don't like the hand claps on 'my girls'

computer make noise, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

keep liveblogging

caek, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

wishing you a happy liveblogging new year's eve eve.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 30 December 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i wish brothersport extended the arpeggiated middle bit & add amazing 4/4 kick. Even though it is a grebt track altogether, extended raverave would be awesome.

siskin/skulls, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

^ siskin, there are a couple of songs where they could've extended A LOT. The "when the sun goes down, we'll go out again" in Summetime Clothes should've been repeated again. The big blast in the first track should've surfaced again.

there is a lot to learn from this time around, the only thing better will be their next album.

I think Bluish should've been re-remixed, it's soft and everything, but it just...eh, gets too soft.

nominal, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 02:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone notice the gaps on the leaked album? At the end of each song? I fixed them in audacity now. I'll re-up for anyone who wants a seamless listen.

nominal, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 02:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Bluish should've been re-remixed, it's soft and everything, but it just...eh, gets too soft.

nuh uh. it has that great piano too.
the next lp's the kind of 'visual album' they're making.
i love the live sound of the record, undulating synths bouncing off the walls.

schlump, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 03:46 (fifteen years ago) link

"there is a lot to learn from this time around, the only thing better will be their next album."

"the next lp's the kind of 'visual album' they're making."

i can't say for sure and i hope i'm wrong, but i don't think they are ever going to make a better record than this. i have never gotten into their old stuff but every album since sung tongs has been better than the last (not counting strawberry jam and yes counting person pitch). it's more a feeling than anything else, but i anticipated the album so much for so long and now that i'm listening to it and it actually is the most wonderful fucking thing ever... it feels really nice and conclusive.

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

lol @ google auto-suggest:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x18/gr8080/fdfsdfsdfsdfsd.jpg

♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Thursday, 1 January 2009 03:28 (fifteen years ago) link

:D

i'm torn on this still. there's parts that i really love ("in the flowers", "brothersport"), but then there's the six minute snoozefest "daily routine" right in the middle. i still dont think what i have is great quality, so im gonna wait for the vinyl

k3vin k., Friday, 2 January 2009 08:15 (fifteen years ago) link

they really fucked up summer time clothes

jordan s (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 January 2009 08:15 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah that and "DR" kinda kill the momentum the first four songs had going. it starts out with four very solid tracks with pretty sublime moments imo, but then tracks 5 and 6 kind of kill it. i still really like "brothersport", but i prefer the live version soso much more. for some reason, the production's the cleanest on "BS"; it's super spacious when the rest of the album is much more cluttered (again, could be the low-qual rip i've got), and i just don't think it works as well. the live version i've got captured the energy and enthusiasm of the song so much better i think

k3vin k., Friday, 2 January 2009 08:20 (fifteen years ago) link

you're all smoking crack too close to the frame

Cosmo Vitelli, Friday, 2 January 2009 08:50 (fifteen years ago) link

daily routine is the weakest track on the album indeed, but "bluish" is awesome, with it's MBV melody style

Zeno, Friday, 2 January 2009 11:47 (fifteen years ago) link

it's just that tracks 5-8 are a bit less poppy, but not necessary weaker

Zeno, Friday, 2 January 2009 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link

must admit they be growin' on me. however, daily routine is neither weak nor the weakest song on the album! that would be either "lion in a coma" or "no more runnin," and even as i type this i'm realizing that i love those songs, too! can we all just agree that this is the greatest album of all time already?

samosa gibreel, Friday, 2 January 2009 14:24 (fifteen years ago) link

xposts i was referrring to "bluish" not "summertime clothes"

k3vin k., Friday, 2 January 2009 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I hate this album so much.

Turangalila, Friday, 2 January 2009 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

why?

I still like this, but I might want to wait until the CD actually comes out to listen again. I wouldn't say there are diminishing returns... but now the inital shock has worn off. I am occasionally wondering if it's actually that good after all. It definitely skirts very close to some awfully hippy-drippy zone but (I think) mostly pulls off being GOOD hippy music.

It might be that good, next time or another, but I do also find it drops off, or my attention starts to wander somewhere around the last third of the album.

That's still a good run though! and I'm still interested to finish the record (even if I might skip some of this bit).

Which is pretty much how I tend to play "Loveless", this has a similar (prematurely) exhausting feel to it for me, even if it's superficially perhaps, a little more consciously varied. So this isn't a large complaint by any means.

I also think Daily Routine -needs- to be there, for pacing. I mean otherwise are we talking about a 1-2-3-4-5 punch opening?? And don't understand how Summertime Clothes kills any momentum when it's the most uptempo track in that whole sequence? I mean, you can not like it, but that's a different thing really.

"Lion In a Coma" is a bit... iffy. I guess it's the token old-style Animal Collective type song for people who like this record but might not be that enamoured with their previous stuff ?

(esp. Strawberry Jam, which I've reinvestigated, appreciate a bit better now, but am not hugely moved by)

fandango, Friday, 2 January 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I loved their EP with Vashti Bunyan.
This album just seems to emphasize everything I’ve never liked about them, e.g., that tacked-on, cartoonish posturing which they now seem too comfortable with. Most of the melodies are desperately saccharine---like jingles, even. And there’s no real sense of tension or weirdness to balance it all. The overwrought production only makes it worse.

Turangalila, Friday, 2 January 2009 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i actually listened to this irl and yow this band is just unbearably precious - and a big lolwtf to all the animal collectors repping their pop tunesmithiness

❤¯\㋡/¯❤ (ice cr?m), Friday, 2 January 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

wht were you thinking?! wd never listen to this irl

cozwn, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 2 January 2009 21:46 (fifteen years ago) link

"my girls" is still dope imo-- the rest is aight

♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Friday, 2 January 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

but dont take my word for it-- http://link-protector.com/673613/

♪㋡♫㋡ (gr8080), Friday, 2 January 2009 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

it saddens me, but i'm not all that into this. a few great songs, lots of others with really weak melodies and ideas. and seriously, every damn song is drowning. SJ was so consistent comparatively!

HPSCHD, Saturday, 3 January 2009 05:25 (fifteen years ago) link

This album just seems to emphasize everything I’ve never liked about them, e.g., that tacked-on, cartoonish posturing which they now seem too comfortable with. Most of the melodies are desperately saccharine---like jingles, even. And there’s no real sense of tension or weirdness to balance it all. The overwrought production only makes it worse.

^^^OTM

psychgawsple, Saturday, 3 January 2009 06:18 (fifteen years ago) link

xp whiney would like this album

k3vin k., Saturday, 3 January 2009 07:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I loved their EP with Vashti Bunyan.
This album just seems to emphasize everything I’ve never liked about them, e.g., that tacked-on, cartoonish posturing which they now seem too comfortable with. Most of the melodies are desperately saccharine---like jingles, even. And there’s no real sense of tension or weirdness to balance it all. The overwrought production only makes it worse.

― Turangalila

xpost Turangalila, so from what I gather you've never really liked them (except for one e.p.) and still don't like them now?

I don't get it, I've not been too fond of them for a lot of the same reasons (and their supposed weirdness HAS always sounded like posturing to me, maybe not 'cartoonish' but still...) if anything I feel like they've dialled back some on the preciousness/affected qualities here for the better. I mean, couldn't you say all the same things about the Panda Bear record?

I'm never quite sure about this line of argument that anything genuinely happy sounding and emotionally uncomplicated and open about it in music has to be "balanced" by some darkness/tension/weirdness. I doubt there's anyone that doesn't have at least ONE record they love that makes a mockery of this.

and all the people complaining about the "underwater"-ness just sound like people hearing MBV for the first time and asking "is this the right speed??" a little.

anyway, I'm mostly enjoying this so don't really want my buzz harshing just yet lol, or to become a cheerleader for it just yet (i'm probably in the 'new fan' category here)

and about listening to this "irl" yeah, cheap lols & and a good zing but have you heard how popular MGMT are? This doesn't sound any more embarrassing to me than that, maybe if AC work their nipples a bit they too can be in the charts :P

fandango, Saturday, 3 January 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

(sorry didn't mean to requote the whole post there..)

fandango, Saturday, 3 January 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link


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