Super Furry Animals - Love Kraft poll

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I wish they'd gone through with this, speaking of aborted projects:

Ok, I got the story on this from the source today: Mr. Gruff Rhys and Bunf. I told them of the leak of this "album" and asked them what it could be. They weren't entirely sure (as they didn't hear it), but Gruff told me SFA recorded a joke album as "Das Coolies", a "band of their imagination", which would dress up in sci-fi jumpsuits. They talked of a massive 20 minute track with steel drum. Damn if I can't remember what they called it ("Steel & ____" or "_____ & Steel"). You can hear a version of it on this leak. (The longest song, toward the end.) Bunf told me that a sound guy of theirs, "a mate", had tons of tapes of them fucking around in the studio. He believes he's the guy who's leaking this stuff. They were cool with it. You know, they're really laid back. Well, high. So this is not "an album". It's demos of the band fucking around with Cian then manipulating it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocTH63vd4e4

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 4 November 2011 13:53 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah. People often give the impression that they think the 'lost' Das Koolies album and the 'lost' techno album are the same thing. I don't think they are, because I remember them being billed as very separate things in the music press years ago. 'Steelwerks In Stone', the album was supposed to have been called. The idea was that they'd do what XTC did with The Dukes Of Stratosphear and form a different band with the same members.

I do feel though that some of these projects didn't get finished for a reason... lack of time, or maybe they just weren't working out. It's hard to get hung up on their aborted projects, though, when they usually end up keeping and recycling all of the best bits to use for other things. Like, these more than a handful of Gruff solo tracks which were originally written for the band, for example... the 'Pwdin Wy' songs... 'Take A Sentence'... 'Space Dust #2'... there's a few from Candylion as well. And 'The Very Best Of Neil Diamond', which was salvaged from the orchestral project... I think they always get used eventually.

Turrican, Friday, 4 November 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

Many years ago I recall Gruff talking of an hour-long song they had worked on that was "terrible".

Peas, Ants, Pigs & Astronauts (PaulTMA), Friday, 4 November 2011 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

I believe it's the same as Das Koolies. He mentioned how they used charts and spreadsheets to prove how they were the best band in the world. Anyway, "Charge" is subtitled "Theme from Das Koolies" and I'm pretty comfortable saying it's an awesome song.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 4 November 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, he was talking about the Das Koolies project there as well.

Turrican, Friday, 4 November 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 5 November 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

voted "Ohio Heat"

Bee OK, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

Salty Maurine had a bun in the oven!

Love the Ennio Morricone-inspired bits.

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 5 November 2011 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

Bit more of a mixed bag this time. Don't really have much problem with 'Zoom!' being in pole position, but I can't get on board with 'Cloudberries' being in second place over 'Cabin Fever'. 'Frequency' seems to be a bit of a fan favourite ususally, so very surprised to see it so low. And 'Lazer Beam' over 'Atomik Lust', 'Ohio Heat' and 'The Horn'!? I really like both 'Psyclone!' and 'Back On A Roll', but not entirely surprised that they didn't get any votes - they're probably two of the least "epic" things here.

Turrican, Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:07 (twelve years ago) link

"ususally"!?? USUALLY.

Turrican, Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:09 (twelve years ago) link

Lazer Beam suuucks

Number None, Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

Walk You Home is really great. I would've voted for it if I hadn't voted Atomik.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

Well, this poll completely passed me by. Love Kraft gets such a kicking but does have some truly wonderful moments. If I'd been able to vote, however, it'd have to be "Zoom!". Fantastic opener, and also a really nicely-done Jean-Claude Vannier homage (rip off, even? No, let's stick with "homage") in one.

unpredictable johnny rodz, Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:51 (twelve years ago) link

What in particular is it ripping off? I've heard that before. Is it the Gainsbourg stuff?

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link

And if we're talking about "homages," how about this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPl11lh1wBk

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:23 (twelve years ago) link

If we venture off the road to Love Kraft, how about this? At least Gruff admitted they ripped this off...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgsTZT64hGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bih629U_LUE

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 6 November 2011 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

Wow. "TRR" is one of my POX SFA trax; never realized it was indebted so strongly to the Captain!

DJ Smoove Groothe (staggerlee), Sunday, 6 November 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, Gruff's already admitted to that one - in fact, he admitted to it around the time of Rings Around The World's release. I couldn't call it a rip-off, since its they've clearly written a new song around the sample and SFA would have had to get clearance for the sample anyway.

Turrican, Sunday, 6 November 2011 07:40 (twelve years ago) link

True... But I'm pretty sure most who've heard the song don't realize it. It's definitely their most blatant sample. The song goes in a completely different direction, of course, and it's integrated perfectly.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 6 November 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

@afriendlypioneer: The JC Vannier comparison lies more with his album "L'enfant Assassin Des Mouches" (sp?). There's references to the album sprinkled throughout Love Kraft, but Zoom! contains the more obvious homages, like the choral bits etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0KHQ_onGWY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

unpredictable johnny rodz, Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

(Mind you, I think "Y Gwyneb Iau" borrows quite a bit from "Space Oddity", so YMMV and all that)

unpredictable johnny rodz, Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

I just listened to that album (the Jean-Claude) today and it is indeed phenomenal. Not sure if I hear anything blatant, but I see your point. That said, the band seems to have amazing taste.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 6 November 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

So when do we do the Fuzzy Logic poll?

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 7 November 2011 02:39 (twelve years ago) link

This album (Love Kraft) is really great. I think it's something everyone who thinks highly of SFA needs to revisit occasionally. It never sounded so good to me.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 7 November 2011 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know who the hell this is, but it's interesting: http://secretsoundshop.com/2011/11/07/my-favourite-album-luke-woolley-uk/

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link


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