Surf's Up Vs A Day In The Life

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so jarring I've never noticed it

just figured it was one of the many many many rhythmic turnarounds/switchups in Lennon's songs

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the end of Yer Blues sounds great, intentional or not. And they do have a track record for this kind of thing. Look at how I Want You (She's So Heavy) ends...

― B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:30 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah, you're right about 'I Want You (She's So Heavy)' but the editing on that is far more seamless.

Turrican, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

so jarring I've never noticed it

just figured it was one of the many many many rhythmic turnarounds/switchups in Lennon's songs

― The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:35 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark

The whole track comes to an immediate halt and literally everything gets cut off in mid-everything just as the drum fill comes in!

Turrican, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I hear it now that you've pointed it out

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

you've ruined it for me forever!

*cries*

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't care one bit for 'Surf's Up'. I didn't even know it had a following until ILX

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I would of preferred an album that's all stuff like "She's Goin' Bald" and "He Gives Speeches"

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

those are the same song

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, they should of stuck in that mindset and made more cracked out pop

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

in what universe did they NOT make more cracked out pop?!

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

> I would of preferred an album that's all stuff like "She's Goin' Bald" and "He Gives Speeches"

That's what most of Smiley Smile was.

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

"Fall Breaks and Back to Winter" is wack but it got darker and more cracked out with "Mrs. O'Leary's cow". I'd like an whole album of cracked out shit - not so much light and wacky

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

That "sha na na" section in 'She's Goin' Bald' still gives me one hell of a chuckle when I hear it. In fact, the whole song does... "yer too late momma, ain't nothin' upside your head... no more no more no more no more!"

Turrican, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

whenever I saw this thread I was always like ugh and now I read it and am surprised at how great it is

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't care one bit for 'Surf's Up'. I didn't even know it had a following until ILX

― hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, November 9, 2011 12:06 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark

waht

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link

"She's Goin' Bald" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Surf's Up"

surf's up is blahbity blah or mehhity meh

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

the Befuddling Opinions of Captain Lorax

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I would of preferred an album that's all stuff like "She's Goin' Bald" and "He Gives Speeches"

This is why smiley smile is one of my favourite albums, even above smile

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:45 (thirteen years ago) link

captain lorax's technically after the deadline vote bumped surf's up from its rightful #1 spot on the beach boys poll

iatee, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I respect iatee for having not been so Type A (tight A) about the deadline (like johnnyfever).
Anyways, "God Only Know" is obviously better

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link

iatee was considerate

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh god, Lorax, still frustrated about the deadline? Jeez, get it out of your system man.

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link

people make lasting impressions

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Impressions don't just dissipate. I have no desire to make them disappear

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:53 (thirteen years ago) link

This is why smiley smile is one of my favourite albums, even above smile

― Glo-Vember (dog latin), Tuesday, November 8, 2011 11:45 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

'Smiley Smile' is that oddest thing, a replacement for a scrapped record that is perversely far more uncommercial and strange than what it replaced. It's not a record I dig out on purpose to enjoy, but rather I find it offers a kind of window to how strange things had got in the world of The Beach Boys at that time. 'Wind Chimes' has always been a kind of slightly unsettling moment on 'Smile', but on 'Smiley Smile' it's fucking scary.

Turrican, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, I would support that track for a cracked out Smile album
and even though I like "Heroes and Villains" and "Good Vibrations" - they are bit of a different extreme. Also, "Good Vibrations" always seemed out of place even if there were songs on Smiley Smile that didn't fit either extreme

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Impressions don't just dissipate

controlled demolitions are required for that amirite

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

be careful what you say, it all goes into one big government file

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Impressions don't just dissipate. I have no desire to make them disappear

― hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, November 9, 2011 12:53 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

This train of thought will inevitably lead you to mistake frustration for impression. The GBV poll had a deadline, you didn't meet it, get over it. Christ.

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't care if my poll wasn't tallied. Big whoop. I care about a person's character and I don't jive well with Tight A's. Loosey Goosey all the way baby

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Turrican is my new favourite poster. Smiley Smile was the first album I heard after their best ofs and pet sounds, and to me it's their pinnacle. No, not their best or most realised but the truest, most fucked up, most acid fried, funniest, craziest album in a time of crazy fucked up, acid fried funny albums.

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Same goes for white album. Shit, you wanted the Beatles or the beach boys to take drugs and discover musical nirvana, these are the ones

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Beach Boys/Nirvana collaboration in the immediate future

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link

'Wind Chimes' has always been a kind of slightly unsettling moment on 'Smile', but on 'Smiley Smile' it's fucking scary.

that was the first song i heard off Smiley Smile: i was in my local record store when they started playing Wind Chimes and it kinda blew my mind. i had spent quite a bit of time with 3 different Smile bootlegs at that point so i just assumed this was another fan mix that i hadnt heard. i asked the clerk what album they were playing and then asked if it was for sale

sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't get what's "scary" about Wind Chimes.

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Really? The Smiley Smile version is Scott Walker levels of sinister compared to the Smile version (which I heard much later and found quite strange to be honest). Okay not Scott Walker but 'c-lose your eyes and lean ba-ck/listen to wind-wiiiiind chiiiyiiiimea' is sirenic stuff.

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I just... what is sinister about chilling out and listening to some windchimes?

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link

like lyrically this song does not deliver the bad vibes

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:37 (thirteen years ago) link

the arrangement is cracked and the melody is eerie but "scary" implies fear of something and I'm not sure what anyone is afraid of in this song

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I think some people are better than me at trancing out to "wind chimes". I'm inclined to agree with the only "slightly unsettling" descriptor

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link

are there some backmasked "I am going to KILL YOU" vocals from Mike Love buried in the mix or something

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

The more you can jibe with the song the harder it can hit you?

I can't really jibe with Syd Barret stuff so it doesn't hit me at all - but I can imagine why it would hit some people. And I don't even think he's bad or anything. He just feels blah to me. Different folk for different folks

hotter than a hoochie coochie (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not just the lyrics, though... it's the way its delivered and the general atmosphere of the track. Whenever I listen to the 'Smiley Smile' version, I just get this vision of an acid burnt-out guy sitting in the dark with a little bit of dim lighting getting freaked out by his wind chimes. In the 'Smiley Smile' version I don't get the impression he's chilling out and listening to some wind chimes... I get more of the impression that the wind chimes are fucking him up for some reason.

Turrican, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

That burst at 1:26 is kinda scary. What is that anyway?

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link

tbh, when i was a kid and had Endless Summer on endless repeat i was spooked by the vocals especially on the slow songs- "eerie" is a good word.

there once was a man with a machine (brownie), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Psychedelics when abused can make the most harmless things seem terrifying. That's what windchimes represents - the smile version is 'oh pretty windchimes, wow' the smiley
Smile version is 'get those dissonant fuckers away from me!!'

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link

windchimes really do creep me out tbh. I only ever notice them late at night when it's silent and kind of windy and they often give me a kind of lonesome feeling. I always feel like they're going to suddenly break out into the Suspiria theme.

the wheelie king (wk), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link

"Smiley Smile" version of "Windchimes" is effing scary and really good. The "Smile" one is equally great, but in a totally different way.

"Smiley Smile" is like when they decided they couldn't make their "Sgt. Pepper" ("Smile") they instead jumped ahead to making their "White Album".

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Smiley Smile needs a serious critical reassessment, no doubt. Great and weird album.

"Good Vibrations," in the end, that is the single to end all singles, but it doesn't need to be on an album. It practically is its own album.

Mark, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link

You guys are nuts. The "Smiley Smile" version of "Windchimes" does such massive disservice to the song. The version on this year's Smile is like my favorite thing ever.

Darin, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 05:23 (thirteen years ago) link


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