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Weeeell: They played almost 3 hours. Steve Howe was on fire, Anderson sounded great and Wakeman was -- as I said -- OWNING. Squire was good for the first half of the set then played amazingly during the second and White, as always, did his job. The most amazing thing was at the very end of "And You And I" , during Howe's guitar line that leads into Anderson's closing verse, the entire place got up and gave Howe (+ the band) a 5 minute standing ovation. Howe seemed pissed he wasn't allowed to finish the song, though, which I thought was strange. The rest of the band seemed totally awed and teary eyed. It was incredible.
Then they did an "unplugged" set that included an acoustic version of "Owner Of A Lonely Heart'. They ended the evening with two encores: "Soon" and then -- past the MSG curfew of 11:00 and into hefty NY Union Workers' Overtime territory (I heard something like $25,000 an hour?!?) - they did "Starship Trooper".
Some of the songs I remember losing it over they sounded so luvverly:

South Side Of the Sky
Going For The One
Ritual (!!)
OOALH
Long Distance Runaround
Soon

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Did they play Heart of the Sunrise!?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think they did. No, I would've remembered since it's one of my faves.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, that sounds awesome. I guess they've been opening with "Going For the One", eh? I really should have went to the show here. One the only favorite bands of my youth that I still haven't seen.

Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, they opened with GFTO. Oh - and the Wakeman/Howe tradeoffs at the end of SSOTS were fire. I recommend catching these guys on this tour if you enjoy them. They're mainly staying away from the bulk of merde they put out in the early-mid '90s and sticking to lots of seldom-played classics. Including 1st and 2nd album stuff. Still no Drama material, though.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Starship Trooper encore! Favorite song ever.

57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh -- and Wakeman/Anderson did a lovely version of "The Meeting" from the otherwise terrible Anderson/Bruford/Wzzzzzzz... album

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I kind of regret missing the show.

Vitalski: It's an obvious answer but do you have Yes' Fragile? The second side is a goldmine. Side 2 opens with the first drum and bass track evah! Also check out the intro to "Heart of the Sunrise" and "The Fish" and the basslines to "Long Distance Runaround" and "Roundabout". Neil Peart is another obvious choice.

I find Inner Mounting Flame more or less unlistenable once I got past how virtuosic it is.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha, I have never gotten past it. Or more to the point, that's not why I like it...it just leaves all other fusion and prog the dust, hundreds of miles behind, in terms of screaming intensity.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it's the only record with which I've experienced the cliche that prog/fusion is technically dazzling but feels totally cold or dry on an emotional level. Where I actually do find the wailing guitar solos to sound cheesy and showy. I'm not totally sure why. It bugs me since I like McLaughlin with Miles.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

(Admittedly, I seem to generally prefer current fusion to 70 stuff, with exceptions.)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

That's really interesting, since for me it's one of the only ones that manages to transcend all the tightly scripted runs and odd-times to sound like five guys playing their asses off, with fire to spare.

Return to Forever (w/diMeola), for ex., sounds more like emotionless showmanship to me. Fun in some ways, in no way deep like Mahavishnu.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Weeeell: They played almost 3 hours. Steve Howe was on fire, Anderson sounded great and Wakeman was -- as I said -- OWNING. Squire was good for the first half of the set then played amazingly during the second and White, as always, did his job. The most amazing thing was at the very end of "And You And I" , during Howe's guitar line that leads into Anderson's closing verse, the entire place got up and gave Howe (+ the band) a 5 minute standing ovation. Howe seemed pissed he wasn't allowed to finish the song, though, which I thought was strange. The rest of the band seemed totally awed and teary eyed. It was incredible.

I saw them in Lowell at the Paul Tsongas Arena last weekend (the last gig of this leg of their tour; I think the one right after MSG), which they were videotaping I believe for a PBS special and later a DVD release. They played The Beatles' "Every Little Thing" (an early cover of theirs, but very much revamped) as an encore instead of "Soon", plus "Starship Trooper" as the final closer. Great versions of "And You and I", "Ritual", "Turn of the Century"...

Minuses: They did a shuffle-blues acoustic version of "Roundabout" (like Clapton did for "Layla" on his Unplugged)--sounds too cheezy to me. Dean's inflatable set looked very (ahem) Stonehenge like.

That aside, I continue to be amazed at what a great show these guys still put on, since they're all like 55-60 years old. Plus, the a/c that night was non-existent, so it was like 85-90 degrees on stage the entire time for them.

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Back to the original question, how about trying Herbie Hancock's Sextant or Can's Ege Bamyasi?

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i want more music like magma too

chaki_burger (chaki), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I just listened to a few Gentle Giant songs that I thought might be good for this: "Knots" (Octopus) has some really crazy shit on it that might be good for sampling; "Nothing At All"'s (s/t) opening with a funky beat behind it would be nice; "Why Not?" (s/t) has a nice sample-able drum and bass bit (in the literal sense not drum 'n' bass) before the outro solo; "Alucard" (s/t) is pretty groovy and crazy; "Experience" (In A Glass House) has some nice bits; "Design" (Interview) is really cool an has a really cool drum break at about 4:27. I don't know what part of "Peel the Paint" has that one really cool bit before the guitar and sax part that leads into the chorus at about 2:04. You probably don't care about this anymore but whatever.

Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

remove the bit "I don't know what part of" before "Peel the Paint" for fuck's sake.

Bryan (Bryan), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

and how could anyone forget Knots, the Gentle Giant remix album with Kid606, Blectum & Electric Company compiled by Phthalocyanine.

it actually exists. it's actually pretty good.

(Jon L), Monday, 24 May 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Herbie Hancock's "Crossings", "Mwandishi" and "Sextant" will also satisfy some funky fusion music needs.

earlnash, Monday, 24 May 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Dleone's suggestions in this thread are OTM i just heard AREA wow!

chaki_burger (chaki), Monday, 24 May 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Chaki, see also:

Area/Demetrio Stratos: C or D

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Any and every King Crimson rec with Bill Bruford is a good choice: Larks' Tongues In Aspic, Starless And Bible Black, Red and their three '80s LPs wich the monochromatic red/blue/yellow covers.

Rustic Hinge's [recorded 1970, not released until '88, former Arthur Brown sidemen, almost certainly the first Trout Mask Replica-disciples] is excellent but you'll probably never find it.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 06:13 (twenty-one years ago)

wich = with, of course. Bonehead.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Area are more than ok. Try also Magma's "Udu Vudu" - its their simpler and funkier album and couple of tracks have fantastic drums/bass sequences.

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)

So much "prog" is that mellow, slow stuff...

Prog that rocks...

Alan Parsons Project "Stereotomy" (leans towards pop)
Alan Parsons "Try Anything Once" (absolute rock masterpiece)

jigue (jigue), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 11:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been listening to "Todd Rundgren's Utopia" quite a bit, and "The Ikon" from that surely has lots & lots of break sample fodder in it, if one were so inclined.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

RElayer-Yes. just dug this out recently. damn they let it go on that album. breaks-a-plenty.

mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Search 310's "bootleg" ep, Prague Rock for reconstructions of the funkier breaks from the mainstream progrock canon. Includes Genesis' "Riding The Scree", Pink Floyd's "Echoes" and Yes' "Heart of the Sunrise." There's also a hilarious loop from an Ian Anderson interview and the King Crimson tribute is named "Pipeless and Smoking Crack."

doug watson (solid air), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

Anyone watching the prog rock BBC archive footage, followed by documentary this evening?

Neil S, Friday, 2 January 2009 20:54 (seventeen years ago)

answer to original poster's question -- Triode On n'a pas fini d'avoir tout vu (with proto-disco flutes!). it played between almost every outside set at terrastock in june and had people a little wiggly

kamerad, Friday, 2 January 2009 20:56 (seventeen years ago)

Stuck this on in the background, we're gonna probably play Scrabble

REMOVE THEIR EARS (country matters), Friday, 2 January 2009 21:01 (seventeen years ago)

Nice barnet, Moody Blues frontman.

Neil S, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

Hardcore flute action, yes it's the Tull!

Neil S, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:10 (seventeen years ago)

Wishbone Ash sound like Polvo!

Neil S, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:14 (seventeen years ago)

But look like Creme Brulee.

Neil S, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:15 (seventeen years ago)

Hang on, I didn't think any of this kicked off till 10pm? For fuck's sake.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Friday, 2 January 2009 21:19 (seventeen years ago)

An hour of archive footage with what seem to be Steve Wright penned glib captions, followed by the docu, in which Rick Wakeman will no doubt be aloowed to drone on.

Pretty entertaining so far though!

Neil S, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:21 (seventeen years ago)

Ah, right. Bugger, missing the archive footage, then (and still up to eyes with work and reluctanct to give up just yet. Tits).

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Friday, 2 January 2009 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

:-( sorry! First capes sighted too...

Neil S, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:27 (seventeen years ago)

have any of these put in in an appearance on the archive footing of the show

John Peel / Alan Freeman / Tommy Vance

djmartian, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:29 (seventeen years ago)

...and whispering Bob Harris

djmartian, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:30 (seventeen years ago)

Not yet, but Jimmy Saville did one of the intros.

Neil S, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:30 (seventeen years ago)

Hmmm Emerson Lake & Palmer suck the big one, sadly.

Neil S, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:34 (seventeen years ago)

Soft Machine a lot better!

Neil S, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:41 (seventeen years ago)

lol Bob Harris!

Neil S, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:43 (seventeen years ago)

does Bob Harris look like a long haired hippy?

djmartian, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:47 (seventeen years ago)

love Caravan.

get that pion down you son (Frogman Henry), Friday, 2 January 2009 21:49 (seventeen years ago)

i bet Comus are too obscure for this program

any sign of the van der graaf generator yet?

djmartian, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:51 (seventeen years ago)

Harris looking well groomed. Genesis now, I think.

Neil S, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:53 (seventeen years ago)

radiohead

get that pion down you son (Frogman Henry), Friday, 2 January 2009 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

got to see Nektar last night. kind of an odd experience, they've got only one original member and a number of them seemed to be having off nights. drummer kept missing cues I think on account of the singer, the keyboard player really flubbed his big solo, there were a lot of sound issues early on and the guitar wasn't audible at all until halfway through the second song. they also had a backdrop of 95% AI generated visuals which I absolutely hated. its like they just fed all their song titles and lyrics into the algorithm and put "make it psychedelic" into the prompt. that said when they dipped into their classic 70s stuff they absolutely ruled. so I'm glad I went. also, the opener was the Paul Bielatowitz Band and they were AMAZING. very ELP like but with guitar instead of keyboards. half the set was classical interpretations and they were incredible. maybe the first show I've seen where the opener was better than the main act.

frogbs, Monday, 21 April 2025 20:19 (one year ago)

Yeah that was basically my experience when I saw Nektar a few years ago. While great to hear “Remember the Future” live, an experience I never thought I’d have, both sound and visuals could have been better. Glad I saw them, would actually do so again given the opportunity, but so wish I could have seen them in their prime.

Founder of America’s Golden Age (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 22 April 2025 14:10 (one year ago)

speaking of ELP, i heard "From the Beginning" on the radio the other day. it was ... amazing? checking Spotify, it's not even a deep cut, it's one of their most popular songs. it definitely has a weird kind of deep cut vibe. reminds me of the dino valente solo record a bit. and it's basically just two chords, and no drums just bongos -- not very prog. idk, had me thinking i should explore ELP but i don't know if they have any other tracks like this

budo jeru, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 15:08 (one year ago)

in particular the synth solo is just pure magic. people shout out the Lucky Man solo a lot but imo this one is way better. I love how the guitar chords slow down as it approaches the end. Lake's voice is incredible on that one too. but no, they don't have many tracks like that, in fact the idea of someone buying Trilogy on the strength of that track and immediately getting hit with a 10 minute hymn that blows up into Christmas music is pretty funny

frogbs, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 16:48 (one year ago)

one cool thing about the Nektar show was we were able to get right up in front. at one point the lead singer was looking right at me and I cracked a huge grin which made him do the same thing. but the truth was it wasn't because of the music, it was because in that exact moment I realized he kinda resembled Neil Breen.

frogbs, Tuesday, 22 April 2025 18:23 (one year ago)

Funny the way the ages turn in over themselves. I gather that back in those heady ELP days, there were a lot of listeners who would think, "Hmph. Classical pretensions." Now here I am listening to The Rite of Spring for the first time and thinking, "Whoa, this is so prog."

TheNuNuNu, Monday, 28 April 2025 14:12 (one year ago)

i should explore ELP but i don't know if they have any other tracks like this

"Take a Pebble", "Still... You Turn Me On" and maybe "Step Aside" from the Emerson, Lake and Powell album. The Lake side of Works Vol. 1 sometimes goes for this kind of intimate ballad, but everything is covered in bombastic reverb that makes it sound like he's singing from a Swiss mountaintop.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 28 April 2025 15:16 (one year ago)

Have been enjoying "Circle Of The Crayfish" from 1972 by nuts German organ/drums duo Sixty Nine, pretty much the exact meeting point between ELP and Brainticket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUK2eG6XhuA

the very hungry capital-killer (Matt #2), Thursday, 1 May 2025 16:17 (one year ago)

Nothing to do with this thread. But today I misheard "My building has great progressive broadband" as "My building has a great progressive rock band" and I asked "What's their name?"

bbq, Friday, 2 May 2025 05:04 (one year ago)

Well, yeah. What you misheard would be a much more interesting conversation.

jeff bezoar (sawdust lagoon), Friday, 2 May 2025 09:52 (one year ago)

ten months pass...

one a year or so I whip out Triumvirats Illusions on a Double Dimple and am blown away by how good it is. its not just the music but how incredible it sounds. even Eddy Offord couldn't get such a great low end. might even be one of the albums I'd use to get someone into prog rock had they not heard any of it before.

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 March 2026 20:05 (two months ago)

one month passes...

https://www.cherryred.co.uk/fruupp-wise-as-wisdom-the-dawn-albums-19731975-4cd-remastered-clamshell-box-set
One of those bands I see on really long lists, maybe I should check them out?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 26 April 2026 17:50 (three weeks ago)

Kind of light noodly mostly instrumental stuff as I recall, upper mid-table second division prog

brian of britain (Matt #2), Sunday, 26 April 2026 18:45 (three weeks ago)

I've heard their first two albums and I'd call them a somewhat harder Genesis minus theatrics. Pretty mediocre and nothing another group didn't do better.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 26 April 2026 19:10 (three weeks ago)

A bar in town does a monthly prog night, DJed by myself and another guy. Lately a lot of people have been coming in unaware of what prog is and I dunno if Van der Graaf Generator and Magma are scaring them away so I wanted to create a mix that was both pretty accessible for the newcomers and also fun and strange for those who know it all, and here's what I came up with. I'd upload it to YouTube but, y'know, there's King Crimson in it.

https://soundcloud.com/ratboy_slim/in-the-court-of-the-slim

Here are all the tracks used (some more than others)

ELP - Karn Evil 9
Yes - Yours is No Disgrace
PFM - E'Festa
Genesis - it.
Yes - Owner of a Lonely Heart
Rush - Spirit of the Radio
Kansas - Carry On My Wayward Son
King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man
ZZ Top - Sharp Dressed Man
Rush - Working Man
Camel - Rhyader/Rhyader Goes to Town
Gentle Giant - On Reflection
Pink Floyd - One of These Days
Jon Anderson - What is a Computer?

frogbs, Saturday, 9 May 2026 01:54 (one week ago)

i listened to a Fruup album but I don't remember anything about it.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 May 2026 03:52 (one week ago)

First time I’ve ever seen prog in describing ZZ Top, but cool they made the list!

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 9 May 2026 17:47 (one week ago)

well, it's not in there for long, fast forward to about 17:30 :)

frogbs, Saturday, 9 May 2026 22:45 (one week ago)

made it downloadable here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1k5FWtJrGuWy7t_57tW9LN2oPFdz_bkij/view?usp=drive_link

frogbs, Saturday, 9 May 2026 22:49 (one week ago)


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