Brilliant album but let's not try to explain it via R&B perhaps. Still think mid-80s Happy Rhodes is the best comparison point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F9mg0wmBUk
The part of Lex's crusade that I disagree with most (while recognising this is a subjective measure) is the "no hooks" measure - this album is like hooks on hooks.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
Making this more "complete" would ruin it for me.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
i don't recognise the "unfinished" way of listening to music at all - i can't say i've ever experienced music like that.
the "no hooks" argument is my strongest, everything else is trying to justify it retrospectively but what it comes down to is that it goes in one ear and out the other, and i have given it waaaaay more chances than things like that normally get. it doesn't stick at all.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
There's nothing I can say to that but, it sticks to my head like crazy. Even though they are insane pitched riffs that I couldn't possibly sing along with.
― Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
xpost I believe you, it just seems bizarre to me because I feel my number one reason for liking this album is its kaleidoscope of hooks. The songs don't feel unfinished to me at all, but really generous, like she's offering more ideas than she needs to in each song. The way the songs are filled with this winning little shifts and switch-ups vocally/sonically/melodically. It also means it withstands repeat playing a lot more.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
winning little shifts and switch-ups
otm
― Evan R, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw the R&B connection doesnt really resonate for me, like, i believe its there, but it doesnt really operate like R&B for me & i dont think thats key to understanding or enjoying it
― D-40, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
how hard it is to feel things, presumably
― r|t|c, Wednesday, April 4, 2012 9:38 PM (Yesterday)
lol thank you for checking out the course reader
― judith, Thursday, 5 April 2012 08:56 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/dsTSB.gif
― r|t|c, Thursday, 5 April 2012 09:10 (twelve years ago) link
lex everyone knows you got baited into hating this by critics you spend your entire life claiming to avoid
― flopson, Friday, 6 April 2012 00:57 (twelve years ago) link
it goes in one ear and out the other... it doesn't stick at all.
I have had the "see you in a dark night" line from 'Oblivion' stuck in my head - in a good way - for about two months straight
― She Got the Shakes, Friday, 6 April 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i get various hooks that don't seem to last more than 2 seconds stuck in my head all the time.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Friday, 6 April 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
right now my favourite track from her is not on this album, it's "vanessa".
the part where she goes : "My heart, ohand I don't care what you saybut it's the way it goes and it's a happening everyday"
has been completely stuck in my head for days !(+ she's very cute in the video)
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 6 April 2012 07:45 (twelve years ago) link
Ha! I woke up with a Grimes song stuck in my head this morning, without having heard it in days. I don't know the name of it or even the lyrics so I've substituted Cocteau Twins nonsense but it's like "some, some, some, some, give it all back, I would start the seaside, I would start the whoooaaaa-ooaaaa-ooooaaa"
― Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Friday, 6 April 2012 09:35 (twelve years ago) link
I've checked, it's Visiting Statue and it's "seabed" not "seaside" but approximately the same lyrics.
That song is an earworm!
― Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Friday, 6 April 2012 09:36 (twelve years ago) link
they're (almost) all earworms !I've just bought tickets to see her in paris in may.
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 6 April 2012 09:56 (twelve years ago) link
i need someone elseto look into my eyes and tell me girl you know you gotta watch your health(to look into my eyes and tell me girl you know you gotta watch your health)LA LA LA LA LA
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 6 April 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Friday, 6 April 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
Interesting interview from Tiny Mix Tapes:
http://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/grimes
― Moodles, Sunday, 8 April 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
Used to work at D&Q!
― and i don't even care, similar to how a badass would respond (Abbbottt), Sunday, 8 April 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
(ha ha, it took me like 3 years to learn how to export lossless from GarageBand but by that time I'd moved to the Record upgrade of Reason, so now I don't feel like such a dummy if she couldn't crack it either.)
― Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 8 April 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
Hildegarde von Bingen! OK, I love you. I knew I was right to do so.
― Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 8 April 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
Well, now we know her primary influence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37I7egeAtSY
― Sanpaku, Sunday, 8 April 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
I have never heard that song before; it's awesome.
― and i don't even care, similar to how a badass would respond (Abbbottt), Monday, 9 April 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, wow, that's gorgeous. and jeez, you can really hear what grimes took away from it. hamill sounds like she had a p interesting career. according to wikipedia, she recorded with, toured with with or joined: procol harum, jethro tull, king crimson, gilbert o' sullivan, wishbone ash, jon and vangelis (she's on friends of mr. cairo!). voices sounds pretty great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tdeqk3zdPI
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 9 April 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://twitter.com/#!/Grimezsz/status/189136305098199041
― markers, Monday, 9 April 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
http://grimestyle.tumblr.com/
never gonna get over her malice mizer background
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 9 April 2012 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
Reading her twitter, she just reminds me so much of my siX0r at that age, like freaky avante-naive prodigy goth girl in love with *everything* and eating up everything she possibly can with a spoon and dishing it out in this weird cuisineart blender of everything all at once, and yet still very personal and distinctive.
But, you know, I just love spooky art school girls so much. It's like... man, we could hang out, and drink wine and make the baby jesus cry. It'll be awesome.
― Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Monday, 9 April 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago) link
Side note, OK, why have I never heard Claire Hamill before? This has my name all over it!
― Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Monday, 9 April 2012 10:59 (twelve years ago) link
Hamill's Voices topped the UK New Age Chart in 1986, but its outlier in a discography of 70s folky/proggy singer-songwriter and 80s Kate Bushisms (for a few songs each folky album, at least).
― Sanpaku, Monday, 9 April 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
yeah def wanna hang w/ grimes
― judith, Monday, 9 April 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
interesting to discover her favourite album of last year was Katy B.
― Tim F, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
interesting that her favorite album of last year was so uninteresting
― Evan R, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
I was thinking of you when I posted that, admittedly.
― Tim F, Monday, 9 April 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
I bit my tongue so hard before taking the bait... I really, really tried not to
― Evan R, Monday, 9 April 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
not much crossover between this thread and the billy joel poll
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
The Katy B record is great!
― heiswagger (rennavate), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago) link
Most of ILX (the smart half at least) thought it was great, too. Sometimes I think Grimes would make an excellent ILX0r. And then I realise she'd probably be a noize borader. Feh.
― Popcorn Supergay Receiver (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 07:54 (twelve years ago) link
I've fallen and I can't feel my face.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link
i think theres an rnb influence but not one that should be overstated. like daydream era mariah in places but thats about it. i mean its there and its not there.
― judith, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
It's an influence, it's hearable, but it's one of about a million "influences" that have been chopped up and thrown in the blender. It's not exactly a USP or anything, it's just a thing that's there.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
http://twitter.com/#!/Grimezsz/status/189590724138909696
― markers, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
i'm grimes you guys
― flopson, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
You're so positive
― 1986 tallest hair contest (Z S), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 04:17 (twelve years ago) link
Ben Gruber @benhenrygruber · Details@Grimezsz listening to michael jackson covers are we?
feel like posting this in the irrationally angry thread, read it and thought "this is why i hate people", not sure if i can explain properly but i can't be alone in this
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 04:42 (twelve years ago) link
like the fact that this person thought his knowledge of the fact that alien ant farm's biggest hit was a michael jackson cover was not only worth tweeting@a hipster girl he obv has a boner for, but the fact that he phrases it in a way that makes it look like he seriously expects her to respond to that
it's just
ugh
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 04:48 (twelve years ago) link
and it's not even that she's internet-famous or anything, i get weirdly annoyed when i see guys do similar things to girls they know on fbook (it is always straight guys who do this to girls on fbook), i just don't understand what goes on in ppl's heads
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
anyway i like grimes some of her songs are gud
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
i just don't understand what goes on in ppl's heads
pussy
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 06:09 (twelve years ago) link