New Eric Matthews, Cardinal re-release

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I just revisited Eric's second record, "The Lateness of the Hour." It's actually held up well, I think. The first one is a bit over-the-top and pretensious in all the wrong places. The second one has more hooks, more of a Brion/Falkner influence (I think Falkner played bass) and the lyrics are a bit more tolerable. It sounds great, too. There are some string-heavy tracks but they weren't his one-trick-pony by that point. The breathy vox still grate a bit but not so bad.

caspar (caspar), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link

ned PWNED!

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

why do you keep bringing it up?

I'm more amused by the fact that you seem to know more about my distaste for Matthews than I do! It's good to have a fan who likes me despite my horrible ways. ;-)

ned PWNED!

Hardly.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link

revealingly, having searched slsk for any leaked tracks from the new record, the only eric matthews of any description that turned up was a gay porn .wmv called gaypornBoyzpartycobra2 - eric matthews and matt. no, funnily enough i didn't download it and watch it to check, but maybe we've found some psychological root of eric's ill-advised outbursts in the 90s?

ned, sorry if you feel weirdly scrutinised, but your name comes up with identikit posts after every mention of eric matthews in the search engine. signal to noise ratio, dude!

debden, Thursday, 3 February 2005 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I still cant hear his name without thinking of Boy Meets World

David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Anyone heard the 3rd album yet?
As a fan of cardinal and of Eric Matthews's solo work, I am curious about this...
Heard the homphobic rumours too, and i would be quite sad if they turned to be true.

Arnault (arc73hk), Monday, 12 December 2005 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I recall quite clearly Matthews' idiotic comments about gay people back in the day. He was so vocal about it around the Lateness of the Hour period, it's no wonder Sub Pop drop-kicked him like an evangelical football. I seem to recall a front-page article in an Oregon alternative weekly about his foot-in-mouth problem on this subject. I've had a hugely conflicted relationship to his music ever since, but as a songwriter myself, I've had to remind myself of the necessary divide between the artist and the art.

The new disc is disappointing, in any case. If you sign up for an eMusic trial (www.emusic.com), you can download the whole album for free.

Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Monday, 12 December 2005 11:44 (eighteen years ago) link

It was very strange to hear for me too, as it's heavy in here was my favourite album of 2005. And i clearly enjoyed the lyric as well, so reading about these comments made me doubt about his lyrics then...
Aill try emusic, thanks for the tip...

Arnault (arc73hk), Monday, 12 December 2005 11:53 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
BIG, big ups for "You've Lost Me There" on the Cardinal album, which I at last purchased this past week.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 04:49 (eighteen years ago) link

four months pass...
this record is very good.i like the minimalist approach, and its surprising arrangements: like a twee record but with little-bizarre twists.

coco the kid, Monday, 29 May 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
i don't need the cardinal album, do i? tell me i don't need it. or maybe i do. i was looking at the two-disc thing at the record store today. but i passed. bought fresh maggots instead.

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 6 July 2006 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Anybody heard his new elpee "The Imagination Stage"...heard snips off itunes...sounds great...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 February 2008 01:37 (sixteen years ago) link

aren't they doing another cardinal record? davies has been horrible for the past decade, i am not excited.

keythkeyth, Friday, 29 February 2008 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link

all i need is my copy of 'untune the sky' and i have all the davies i'm likely to need for the forseeable

electricsound, Friday, 29 February 2008 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link

it's a new matthews, not davies

Zeno, Friday, 29 February 2008 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't need any matthews at all

electricsound, Friday, 29 February 2008 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link

cardinal was mainly davies' song, i wonder if the new one would be mainly matthews' songs?

keythkeyth, Friday, 29 February 2008 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

All you alls. I know Eric and this thread is freaking funny. Eric has no hate or fear for gays or anybody. We have a mutual friend who is dying of AIDS and I happen to know that it has touched Eric just like it would touch anybody with a human heart.

Eric likes to kid around a lot and never holds his tongue but come on, this guy is a serious songwriter in the modern world. He doesn't hate anyone.

And wow, gay! missed that one (some of you), this guy ain't gay. Believe me, I have seen him in action. That was a long time ago but he has always been all about “the ladies”. He has been married to an amazing lady for 13 years, at least. What a strange place this blog is. I mean really, you people can look at a photo and call a guy gay! That is some serious gaydar you got working there. I think it might be a hate crime actually.
And by the standards applied I guess all good looking guys with nice hair must be queer.

And yeah, the new record is amazing. I am not saying that because I know him. He doesn't know I am here and won't see this. He isn't an internet guy. Maybe he is stuck in the 50's now that I think about it.

jonesy, Friday, 11 April 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

you probably won't want to look at any of the threads on this strange blog

kamerad, Friday, 11 April 2008 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

you've seen him in action? through a peephole?

keythkeyth, Saturday, 12 April 2008 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link

He's a ruckus for the ladies

sonnyboy, Saturday, 12 April 2008 08:27 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

New Cardinal!:
http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/cardinal/hymns/

nostormo, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

I'm pretty sure this was going to include the four tracks that leaked a while ago, all of which made me happy. "Kal" which has already come out at least once that I know, is pretty great. "Love Like Rain" was what I wanted the Robert Pollard collaboration to sound like. Will definitely be getting this...

dlp9001, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago) link

'love like rain' is not good. will this one be more of an eric matthews affair? he hasn't fallen as far as richard davies has.

keythhtyek, Friday, 6 January 2012 02:23 (twelve years ago) link

you can listen to those 30 sec clips on amazon.
i did - of course hard to tell from just that, but i can't help myself:
not mind blowing of course it won't be...
probably get it anyways.

jimmy_chop, Friday, 6 January 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link

I'd say "Kal" is about as good as anything this side of the Moles. Really like "Love Like Rain" so sad to see it unloved. Personally I rate Moles *way* over Cardinal, so not really interested in the Matthews side of things, but that's me.

dlp9001, Friday, 6 January 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

yeah obviously richard davies is miles ahead of eric matthews, or at least he was, but he hasn't done anything interesting in 15 years so another record like his last few is not to be anticipated is it?

keythhtyek, Saturday, 7 January 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

It's out. I like it ok and the last track is pretty cool. Always have to wait with Davies to see how things shake out. They fucked with the tracks that leaked, and not for the better. I like earlier Kal much better. Less reverb, harder edged, vocals more up front. New version is still ok. Some people may like the new one more, depending on what Davies they like best...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3495149/04%20Kal.mp3 [older version]

Still think Love Like Rain is pretty great Davies doing GbV.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 04:48 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

the cardinal/moles guy is playing here solo. might go. should i? the ever lovable bob fay is opening up so that's nice. and happy jawbone family band which is always fun for the whole family. we'll see...

scott seward, Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

Cardinal Spring Tour:

05.10 • Plough & Stars (Boston, MA)
05.11 • Littlefields (Brooklyn, NY)
05.12 • The Flywheel (Easthampton, MA)
05.13 • The Rotunda (Philadelphia, PA)
05.14 • Strange Matter (Richmond, VA)
05.15 • The Velvet Lounge (Washington, DC)

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 April 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

In the tradition set before them by many studio greats, Matthews will not be a part of the live equation. "It's hard for me to contemplate a live version that doesn't involve eight of me running around playing multiple instruments," he admits. "Even then, playing live has never really been something that interests me in the way that it does Richard. So, while I will look forward to our intense creative partnership continuing on the recording side, I support the decision to play these songs for our fans, even if I won't be there on stage to do so."

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 April 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know what Davies is like live

curmudgeon, Monday, 23 April 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

And not too many others here must know either

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

i just saw him in March. he was... ok. very affable, and charmingly self-deprecating. his young back-up band was very underwhelming / under-rehearsed. they played several songs from the new Cardinal lp, but they were very different--straight guitars/bass/drums.

i saw him do a solo set opening for Tobin Sprout in 2000 which was fanstastic. just him and an acoustic guitar; did an early version of 'Kal'. kinda makes me wish he'd stick to that format. nonetheless he's an oddly compelling talent.

nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

I saw him years ago, I think after Telegraph. Then, his band was pretty tight, but I wouldn't say it was a mind-blowing show. I don't see him as the kind of person who puts on mind-blowing shows, though I've always wished that video of the Moles might surface, because it seems like they might have been mind-blowing but I'm not sure.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Davies in NYC in '98 - notable for being the night I first met Gail O'Hara and for being briefly introduced to another pop hero of mine, Kurt Ralske. I don't recall much about the show...I think I was ill...

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

twelve years pass...

huh i guess the book was out on this guy a long time ago, i saw him comment on an ilx adjacent person's facebook thread and click on his profile wow he's really got a brain full of right wing conspiracy worms

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:54 (one month ago) link

Yeah, pretty much was exactly that! I feel happy to have mostly ignored him, though I had the Cardinal album at some point I think.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 28 April 2024 15:01 (one month ago) link

I remember having one of his Sub Pop albums on CD and enjoying it, kind of chamber pop thing Zombies type deal iirc but it's been in a box for years

but yeah like he's faaaar gone wow

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 28 April 2024 15:07 (one month ago) link

I read quite a few posts itt before realising it was a revive - "maybe that's why he feels it is time to make an appearance again, the political climate should make him more popular this time around" as plausible a sentiment for right wing fuckers in 2024 as 2005.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 28 April 2024 15:08 (one month ago) link

Wow, what an absolute jackass. And to think I sorta liked his music. I even posted a comment on his website many many years, a question about something, why didn't he do this or try that (I honestly forget what my interest was) and his reply was "I'm happy on my own island so I never learned how to swim" which makes a bit of sense now seeing his isolationist worldview.

henry s, Sunday, 28 April 2024 16:02 (one month ago) link

many many years *ago*

henry s, Sunday, 28 April 2024 16:03 (one month ago) link

I think he blocked me on FB as I can't find his profile there anymore, I must have argued with him at some point

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:17 (one month ago) link

I pondered reviving this thread a couple of years ago when I first heard It's Heavy in Here. Some beautiful melodies, not all of them sung; but he has a dispassionate-to-blank vocal style, and cryptic lyrics (though a couple of them hint at moral condemnations that perhaps indicate his conservative outlook).

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 29 April 2024 02:09 (one month ago) link

I remember reading an interview with him in The Big Takeover where he bragged about not having a single MIDI cable in his home studio, such goofy shit.

spastic heritage, Monday, 29 April 2024 02:17 (one month ago) link

I guess at the end of the day it's not a huge surprise a musician that fetishizes vintage recording equipment while eschewing modern technology might possess political views that are, shall we say, less than progressive.

henry s, Monday, 29 April 2024 11:33 (one month ago) link

I don't think that means anything actually

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 April 2024 12:00 (one month ago) link

Oh, of course it doesn't. Then again, I can't say I'm surprised.

henry s, Monday, 29 April 2024 12:10 (one month ago) link


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