Cardiacs: Classic or Dud?

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JUST BOUGHT THE GREATEST HITS ALBUM...FUCKING FANTASTIC. "DIRTY BOY" IN ALL IT'S FULLBLOWN MAJESTIC GLORY!!!!! NEW CARDIACS TRACK.."FASTER THAN SNAKES WITH A BALL AND A CHAIN", OH YES, OH YES, OH YES...BRING ON THE NEW ALBUM AND THEN WE WILL SEE WHO RULES THIS COSMIC UNIVERSE...HA HA HA HA (SCARY LAUGHTER ENSUES!!) THANKS PUPPIES

DAVID SHERIDON, Tuesday, 14 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I wonder how many of you are out there... Cardiacs are totally independant, whick means they don't have the finances to do many press ads or pay PR people... hence hardly any coverage (UK music press covers stuff they know has money for adverts behind). I'm always meeting Cardiacs fanatics who have no idea of the amount of stuff they've done recently.

There's a Rock Sounds mention this week (thanks to Sean Organ), and a couple or articles in The Organ 'zine - www.organart.com

Always check out WWW.CARDIACS.COM for info!

marinecreature, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Consultant's website is also great. It's got a selection of their old promos in poor quality realvideo, including their performance of Tarred and Feathered on The Tube. And the Consultant's Flower Garden film off Seaside Treats, which is highly recommended viewing. "This is William D. Drake. Sometimes we call him Bill. The Consultant will never call him Bill, such is his hatred of him..."

I've had the Greatest Hits on constant play since I got it. What an album! I've only had Guns, Sing to God and the Sampler up till now, so most of the old stuff is new to me. Affectionate Friends ain't bad either.

Phil A, Monday, 27 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO NAME AND SHAME DAREN, NATHAN,JOE,MELISSA,CHARLIE FROM STGREGORYS ANDPAUL FROM THE INTERNET ALL OF YOU ARE JELOUSE AND THICK TO BE SO CRUEL TO GARETH HE IS REALLY NICE AND YOUR JUST BEING BULLIES.YOU PEPOLE AT ST GREGORYS STOP MAKING FUN OF GARETH HES ABETTER MAN THEN YOULL EVER BE. ITHINK PEOPLE SHOULDN;T JUST LIKE GARETH FOR LOOKS.KATHRYNS YOUR NUMBER 1 FAN GARETH LOVE AIDA YOU RULE

AIDA HORSE, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pardon?

marinecreature, Sunday, 16 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

oh dear..oh dear..oh dear......and people think cardiacs fans are off their heads....mmmmmmmm. All hail Gareth, no i cant really see it somehow. Happiness and Joy Mr. Sheridon

david sheridon, Tuesday, 18 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...
cardiacs are great- tim smith-what a songwriter these songs are the bus on a bus-listen and youll find out see-dont listen to the dont knowers who think they know but dont!sea nymphs gig a couple of years back too -one of my best gigs ever-more soon please keith

keith phillips, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Do you know that William D Drake is playing a gig at the Spitz on Monday? With Bob Leith on drums apparantly. Sounds like its going to be a bit of a Cardiacs do.

Marina organ, Friday, 5 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...
CLASSIC, OBVIOUSLY. You can SORT of see how ppl wouldn't get it - they haven't evolved very far yet! but i cannot understand whoever it was saying "I quite liked" anything by Cardiacs. That's plain odd. It's a bit like saying "Eating, well I can take it or leave it."

xini

xini, Saturday, 20 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

After seeing two live concerts and listening to their albums for years, I'm still figuring out what their music is all about. Brilliant!!!! Such complex and beautifull melodic structures.

BTW if you get the chance go see Bill Drake, he has an album forthcoming, and there's a CD-single out produced by Tim Smith (Cardiacs).

A fan!

Wilco Boumans, Monday, 22 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...
And Cardiacs are actually playing an actual gig on November 15th 2002 at the London Astoria.

Result!

Marinaorgan (Marina Organ), Saturday, 28 September 2002 23:14 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...
Just heard them for the first time: from what I can tell, classic. Reminded me of XTC if they had been a prog band. Also, some remnants of Rocky Horror style theatrics. I've heard "Guns", and guess I'll work my way backwards.

dleone (dleone), Sunday, 12 January 2003 16:34 (twenty-three years ago)

four weeks pass...
CLASSIC!!! Love em or loathe em.....this band is unique. Truely. Uninitiated should check out 'Is This The Life?' on the 'A Little Man And A House' Lp as a good introduction and go from there. Gawd knows where it may lead you. I've just dug out the 'Seaside' tape that Lee from 'Catherine in a Cupboard' did for me years ago - a forgotten gem. Nurses Whispering Verses - oh yes! TOP live band. Just hope they'll continue gigging......)))

Allen, Tuesday, 11 February 2003 09:13 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...
Blimey, this thread has ressurrected itself!
You know big tall Lee... did he do you a tape of Toy World/Obvious Identity (Cardiacs tape albums from 1980-83 and earlier).

DL... If you've just heard 'Guns', wait till you hear 'A Little Man And A House And The Whole World Window'... give us an email if you have difficulty getting stuff.

Marinaorgan (Marina Organ), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

eight months pass...
This Spratley's Japs record is pretty good.

dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
Love em or Loath em ??
The first time I saw Cardiacs I absolutely hated them. Thankfully It didnt last for long, and soon I was enjoying some of the best gigs I have seen in 20 years. Nothing matches the total euphoria of a Cardiacs shown, I just wish Sarah would play a bit more often.
To anyone who who isn't convinced- stick with it.

paul ashby, Saturday, 13 March 2004 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
Hi All....Since my last post, me and the girlfriend got married and still.....Cardiacs are Classic!!!!
Roll on November this year.
Still the greatest band on the planet, or any other,
HAPPINESS AND JOY.
Mr Sheridon

David Sheridon, Monday, 31 May 2004 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Whats happening in November?

mzui, Monday, 31 May 2004 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
CARDIACS PLAYING NOVEMBER 12TH 2004

MR SHERIDON, Saturday, 17 July 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
CARDIACS are touring again for the first time in years. With THE WILDHEARTS!

08/12/04: London - Astoria
09/12/04: Manchester - MDH (Uni)
10/12/04: Glasgow - Garage
11/12/04: Sheffield - Leadmill
13/12/04: Cambridge - Junction
14/12/04: Bristol - Anson Rooms
15/12/04: Wolverhampton - Wulfrun Hall

Did anyone see them at the Astoria on 12th Nov? What happened?

everything, Monday, 22 November 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

CARDIACS are touring again for the first time in years. With THE WILDHEARTS!


Say WHAT? What a fuckin' double-bill!!!!!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 22 November 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw them at the Astoria. Usual stuff really (i.e. amazing), except this time they had 4 or 5 extra singers and percussionists with them. What will the Wildhearts audience make of them?!

udu wudu (udu wudu), Monday, 22 November 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

What will the Wildhearts audience make of them?!

I expect indifference followed by swift irritation followed speedily by violence.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 22 November 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently Jon Poole is now an ex-Cardiac and is a full-time Wildheart. Dunno if that's a good or bad thing. Any opinions on their new guitarist?

everything, Monday, 22 November 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...
When is the new record coming out?

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

I have one compilation of earlier songs - classic!

zeus, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

I met Marina Organ at the VdGG gig last week!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

I was at that gig at the Astoria. The Wildhearts fans were predictably nonplussed by the Cardiacs. It must be very strange to see such a demented support act, with its own fanbase moshing you out of the hard-won space near the front that you'd reserved for the main act. I left about 3 songs into the Wildhearts, who were quite extraordinarily terrible.

Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

five months pass...
two new live CDs (Garage Concerts vols I&II) are out now, and have only stuff from the earliest days of Cardiacs/Cardiac Arrest. Surprise, surprise, you can hardly tell anything has changed.

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 31 October 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

Wow. Anytime there's a new Cardiacs album it's a treat, even if it is another live one (this is the fourth innit?). It's old material, but recorded last year, right? I will be ordering this immediately.

everything, Monday, 31 October 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

yeah, recorded autumn 2003, and it really does sound great (possible post-production alert!)

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 31 October 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
I have been in a state of Cardiacs-induced bliss these last few days listening to Special Garage Concerts Vols 1&2. This is the wildest live recording yet. Utterly ferocious - and what a relief that there is not another version of "Is This The Life".

For you lucky bastards that live in London, Cardiacs will be playing TWO SPECIAL SECRET CONCERTS at The Bull and Gate in Kentish Town, London on the 21st and 22nd of December.

everything, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

F***ing typical. The one time your musical hero happens to come and stand next to you in the pub you're too pissed to make any sense when you speak to him. Tim Smith now knows more than he ever would want to know about my troubles writing a job reference for an agoraphobic. He was very polite, though, but I now hate myself.

Take some time to appreciate the lyrical genius of the man... A song about an insect landing on a TV screen and falling in love with Lassie (who was a he-dog). A song about when you used to play with your food on the plate because it was too scary. All with random letters inserted into words ("indside") and resurrection of beautiful archaic terms like "phiz" and "foundling". And utterly no respect for the rules of metre. You could write a doctoral thesis on it.

Mark Harvey, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

To realise that Tim Smith wrote songs like "As Cold as Can Be In An English Sea" at such young age is almost scary...

It shouldn't be about whether you boo or hurrah Cardiacs, by the way. Just take it as a fact that Cardiacs are a truly independent musical/lyrical universe in itself. For that is undeniable fact.

Let's fly hawks around your house :-)

Peter Sijbenga, Saturday, 31 December 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

Just found this thread for the first time because it's way down on googles' Cardiacs search. I like the way it's been taken over by the innitiated.
I got into Cardiacs by accident in 1990 (aged 13), when I found a 7" of Is This The Life in an abandoned locker at school and promptly stuffed it in my canvas ruck-sac for later listening. It was an epiphanic moment of clarity and I've been in love ever since. I can't think of a genuinely bad Cardiacs tune. They even made the Kinks' "Suzannas still alive" sound better than the original! Unfortunatley I've only seen them live seven times which is never enough. Although I have made the 700 mile round trip to the London Astoria gigs three times now (The first of which we arrived just in time for the last song).
Quite simply they're a way of life! criminally ignored but we like it that way.
Beautiful.

Greyhound, Friday, 6 January 2006 12:37 (twenty years ago)

Cardiacs make the most manically beautiful noise an ear could hear – no argument! I was a 15 year old Smiths fan when I first heard them - Gary Davies played ‘Is This the Life’ on his lunchtime Radio One show back in 1988 and I was mesmerised. I would place more value on one Cardiacs album than the rest of my record collection combined – don’t ask me which one though! I just find them incredibly rewarding – each record grips me regardless of how many times I hear it. There is so much to love and I feel genuinely sad for those who just don’t get it.

The Astoria gig last December was, I think, my 20th and I’m looking forward to the next 20. A new album would be nice though – Guns was SEVEN years ago! And I wonder when these promised DVDs will come out…?

One more thing - my girlfriend’s sister is one of the uninitiated and wants to hear what Cardiacs sound like – is there one song I could play her which will get them across? I was thinking ‘Fiery Gun Hand’.

Andrew Bates, Friday, 13 January 2006 10:36 (twenty years ago)

Buds & Spawn, oi reckon.

mzui (mzui), Friday, 13 January 2006 12:06 (twenty years ago)

The Ever So Closely Guarded Line is as good a place as any to dip your toes in. Or perhaps Nurses Whispering Verses.

Dr Greyhound, Monday, 16 January 2006 12:10 (twenty years ago)

Manhoo is an easy one for the uninitiated. Otherwise, Buds & Spawn. I've surprised a few folds by just sticking on the Maresnest video and playing the opener, The Duck And Roger The Horse. They usually go "whhhhh...?"

everything, Monday, 16 January 2006 22:06 (twenty years ago)

Great - reckon I'll start with Buds & Spawn and gauge the reaction. I can never play just one song though - I think the Land & Sea album deserves a full airing. She's up this weekend so I'll give it a go. (I'll probably get drunk and force everyone to listen to the entire back catalogue while I leap around the living room, punching the air and getting the words wrong - and be single by Monday...)

Andrew Bates, Friday, 20 January 2006 14:13 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
"Wireless" from StG pt 1 gets me every time

Dominique (dleone), Sunday, 26 March 2006 01:48 (twenty years ago)

Ahh, this thread comes back to haunt me once again...

Tim Smith is on tour supporting Ginger And The Sonic Circus at the moment. I was dead keen to go to the london date, except tickets are something like £15 plus booking fee and considering I have no interest in seeing the headline act, it would be a bit of a waste of money. Sigh.

Seven years is just silly. I wonder how many times they've recorded/scrapped the new album now? I imagine it's like Lee Mavers and The La's - they just keep redoing it over and over again and are never satisfied with the result.

Philip Alderman (Phil A), Monday, 27 March 2006 00:56 (twenty years ago)

where will drake bells next concert be and how can i contact him?

allyson marie deering, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)


Have the good folk who visit this list been here yet? www.6k2.com/myforum/cardiacs.html

Andy, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

On Youtube there's a little clip of Tim, John Poole and Ginger doing "Anything I Can't Eat" from last week sometime (sorry I can't seem to access youtube today to get the link).

everything, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: is that link thing there supposed to go somewhere? Cos it doesn't.

everything, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, sorry - dunno what happened there. Try keying it in manually - either that or Google it. Cardiacs Maresnest Forum should do it. It's just a friendly, small but growing chat forum dedicated to Cardiacs - come and say hello.
Dead keen to see that Youtube thing - I was on holiday so I missed the tour. Gutted! Will try and find it myself but can you stick up a link if poss? Ta!

Andy, Thursday, 6 April 2006 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvbhJdhtoiE&search=cardiacs

everything, Thursday, 6 April 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)


Hmm, interesting! Thanks for that. Looks like it was taken by a Wildhearts rather than a Cardiacs fan but it's a nice little insight.

Andy, Friday, 7 April 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

nine months pass...
revive for Louis.

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 2 February 2007 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

theres genuinely something very humanly touching about the fact that this was finished and is every bit as good as Tim himself would've done. it really is exactly the album I was hoping would drop in 2008 and make people pay attention

frogbs, Saturday, 20 September 2025 04:27 (six months ago)

https://kiyimuzik.com/cardiacs-interview-where-tim-is-hes-up-front/

wait, what???

Here is a question asked by a friend: Is LSD the grand finale, or is there more stuff coming out in the future?

No, it’s not the final album. I think we have got two more albums, which we will start soon. It’s not the end of the road. So you can look forward to seeing us all on mobility scooters or wheelchairs on stage. (laughs)

frogbs, Friday, 26 September 2025 13:33 (six months ago)

five months pass...

the Vennert band played its first live show and it sounds like it was fookin amazing

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 March 2026 04:05 (two weeks ago)

I'm going tomorrow, with a heavy heart and enormous misgivings

imago, Tuesday, 10 March 2026 09:20 (two weeks ago)

Had tickets for this evening but had to cancel as I have a poorly kitty to take care of, would have been my first Cardiacs gig in something like 25 years.

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 10 March 2026 10:58 (two weeks ago)

Ooops tomorrow evening

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 10 March 2026 10:59 (two weeks ago)

I seen them last night in Glasgow and it was really good, I assumed I would know all the songs but was surprised by how much I didn't recognize, I guess some of it really just sounds that different live.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 14 March 2026 19:30 (one week ago)

Kind of embarrassed how little I knew about the current lineup, I thought the Saxophone player was Sarah but it's someone else (I seen two women in the band last night but there's 3 women in the current band photo). I think I've got every Tim Smith written studio album now but there's still EPs and singles and the wider family. Very daunting.

Looking for more stuff Sarah sings on because I really love her voice and I wish there was much more.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 14 March 2026 20:16 (one week ago)

the Vennert band played its first live show and it sounds like it was fookin amazing

― frogbs, Tuesday, 10 March 2026 04:05 (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

It was

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 14 March 2026 20:43 (one week ago)

Imago, what did you think?

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Saturday, 14 March 2026 21:31 (one week ago)

I have only watched two of the gigs on YT, I feel Sharron is a little underused; she has such an amazing voice, and my friends said she was very low in the foh mix.

Singing is still a sticking point for me, I feel the STT gigs were let down by some poor choices, but I get that a communal feeling was what drove those concerts, but only Jon Poole carried it off well.

Mike is good a lot of the time, (and he's a great frontman), at his best when singing vocal melodies that he did on the record, but songs like Fiery Gun Hand, he takes this odd middle path, they could have handed it to Sharron, who would have knocked it out of the park.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 14 March 2026 21:48 (one week ago)

I don't have much useful to say about the show other than it was an excellent and quite emotional night and there wasn't anything to even nitpick with. It was a fully-formed show for sure, Mike was fantastic.

There was a chance I was gonna have to move outside or leave after Fiery Gun Hand because I fell abruptly sick and the hot air wasn't allowing me any useful breathing so I had to squat for a moment. Shoutout to the man next to me who appeared with some water from out of nowhere I thought it would only help for a short while but it genuinely saved the night.

It's a little odd (not in a bad way) to me that they're playing ArcTanGent, i.e. a crowd beyond the faithful. I mean sure, go for it fellas. I feel like for Jim especially it's joyous to be on stage again playing the catalogue so it's a moment to make the most of. Hope they go down really well.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 14 March 2026 22:36 (one week ago)

I thought I read about some Primavera or adjacent gig in the summer, too. So I'm hoping there might be a return later in the year, and I might actually be able to see them, it's been so long. But it must be so difficult to corral all these musicians. I wonder whose job that is.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 14 March 2026 22:41 (one week ago)

I was kind of underwhelmed, then suddenly they became absolutely incredible for Signs/Burn/Everso. Weird experience, on balance glad they're back. But bring on Bloom :P

imago, Saturday, 14 March 2026 23:13 (one week ago)

There were some annoying sound issues at Brixton which made it a bit of a frustrating experience - drums/bass way too loud and Kavus's guitar almost inaudible. It improved in the latter half of the gig so hopefully these technical issues will be ironed out at future shows - these seem to have gone down very well so that practically guarantees there will be more.

This channel has uploaded very good quality recording of the entire Portsmouth gig. Never thought in a million years I'd ever hear them do "Hymn" live again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STiW1xHybGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ttHCrgfx3E

"Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Tuesday, 17 March 2026 08:57 (one week ago)

Was at the Manchester Albert Hall gig with my best friend of over 40 years, sharing a devotion to Cardiacs since our teenage years. Very different delivery and sound to the STT tour, but the line-up and Mike Vennart definitely worked for the heavier late era and new material. I expected an emotional evening, so Jim at centre stage, Kavus playing Tim's green Westone guitar, Hymn and the finale with portrait of Tim held aloft certainly delivered.

There was a real standout moment when Mike shot off stage during the encores then appeared on the circle to sing Whole World Window with support from the whole crowd; my pal projects a stone-faced exterior but grabbed me and said "I love you, mate". The power of music :)

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Wednesday, 18 March 2026 10:05 (one week ago)

Aw <3

imago, Wednesday, 18 March 2026 10:56 (one week ago)


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