Britpop era follow up to successful albums poll

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And most of the other bands here were just wheeling out the same tired old shit. Oasis/OCS/Weller/Ash/MSP/Space/Reef/Lightning Seeds/Catatonia/Cast especially.

'scuse me, while I Rim the Sky... (snoball), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

Charlatans' entry is the only one I like out of this list

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

im pretty sure 3 colours red outsold the Auteurs

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

It's true, they did have a smash hit #15 album at one point.

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

still better known to the general britpop buying public

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

but yeah just as shite as the Auteurs, i agree

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:31 (twelve years ago) link

Count me as another would be Six voter. I guess from this lot, as much as I like The Bluetones, it does have to be This is Hardcore.

if, Saturday, 5 May 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

Us And Us Only, easy.

mr.raffles, Saturday, 5 May 2012 03:39 (twelve years ago) link

Drawn from Memory is simply one of my favorites but will vote C'mon Kids as it has so many good parts. the album is a severely underrated jewel.

just under them is Us and Us Only, In It for the Money and of course This Is Hardcore.

also really liked at the time The Great Escape, Return to the Last Chance Saloon and This Is My Truth Tell Me Yours.

Bee OK, Saturday, 5 May 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link

In It For The Money was the last Supergrass album I was really excited about. After that, the drummer's Moon-isms vanished, along with much of the rest of the band's sense of urgency. I bought and sold maybe the next two or three Supergrass records before throwing up my hands.

Heavy Soul had its moments, but I mostly remember it because that was the only time I saw Paul Weller. He played a lot of meandering, noodly jams, but redeemed his set with "Mermaids" for the encore.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 5 May 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link

jesus fucking christ nuke britain

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2012 07:48 (twelve years ago) link

let's get nukey on the uk

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Saturday, 5 May 2012 07:57 (twelve years ago) link

u & k

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2012 08:05 (twelve years ago) link

Can't disagree in fairness, but I'm having my say anyway. I think Blur, Manics and Supergrass are the only ones I'd've heard all the way through, and The Great Escape is definitely the best of these, even if it's far too long. I'm another one who'd'of went for Six though.

someone was busking playing 'walk away' the other day and i wanted to grab him and yell DON'T PLAY THAT SONG, GOD, WHY EVEN DEVOTE THE ENERGY TO REMEMBERING THAT SONG EXISTS, LET ALONE PLAYING IT AND MAKING OTHER PEOPLE REMEMBER IT EXISTED

Haha yeah. I don't mind that one actually. There are a handful of decent singles among these albums, though lord knows what the Echobelly deep cuts must be like.

Sneaking suspicion that the best 'pop' tune here might be Kula Shaker's 'Shower Your Love'.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 08:10 (twelve years ago) link

was gonna launch into a more expansive rant but i'm reminding myself that, depressing as this is, it only represents a culture, a slice of the popular consciousness that still exists, that still dominates some media narratives, but that is far from being the only British music then or now. life is being lived a long way elsewhere.

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2012 08:18 (twelve years ago) link

come on. look. this was the worst music ever.

Wasn't there an even later wave of explicitly post-Oasis, sub-OCS britpop, sort of like Quo without the fancy licks? I'm thinking Heavy Stereo, there may have been others.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 08:20 (twelve years ago) link

No no, don't spare us xp

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 08:21 (twelve years ago) link

and it's funny - altho i accept this might in part be exoticism speaking - that any single album from the "awful post-Grunge hangover" poll contains more imagination, more soul, and more actual fucking music than anything on here

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2012 08:21 (twelve years ago) link

Heavy Stereo and Northern Uproar and toss too toss to remember i guess, but in all honesty this list is only one point on the continuum where The View and the Kings of Leon and Kafuckingsafuckingbifuckingan still ride high in the good taste files of every post-uni 20/30 something holding down a steady office job today

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2012 08:23 (twelve years ago) link

manics really from another era/mentality altogether, but their album is the only one i care about on this list. amazing how completely wretched this whole era seems to me now. just a vast wasteland of derivative dreck.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 5 May 2012 08:50 (twelve years ago) link

i'd normally excuse the Manics from this but they're uglified by the company here

like Joe Pasquale and Gandhi (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 May 2012 08:52 (twelve years ago) link

I kind of admire the Manics for managing to cash in on the era without, in retrospect, having to bend much to it in sound, theme or image. They were always trying to introduce stuff that never caught on at all, like political history, ice hockey, or the pseudo yacht rock on this album

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 10:05 (twelve years ago) link

Are The View the 'same jeans' lot? I heard a busker doing that this week, and not so long ago saw a bride & groom taking the floor to it at their wedding (not as first dance thankfully). Both times I felt soiled just knowing what it was.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 10:08 (twelve years ago) link

Kafuckingsafuckingbifuckingan

I feel rather proud I have no idea who this is referring to.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 5 May 2012 10:24 (twelve years ago) link

Kasabian.

I don't think that I've met anyone that has still expressed a liking for The View in years now, though yes, plenty of people who rep for Kasabian and Kings of Leon.

if, Saturday, 5 May 2012 11:01 (twelve years ago) link

Looool, I'd forgotten about most of this stuff. Think I'll have to jump on the This Is Hardcore bandwagon.

Mr Andy M, Saturday, 5 May 2012 12:23 (twelve years ago) link

i keep thinking i've never heard the view but i probably have and just dont realise it

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think i've ever heard the view. the one thing that redeems that list of albums up there is the thought of what a landfill era equivalent would look like.

btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Saturday, 5 May 2012 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

Man this was sort of my era but I guess I'd decided most of these bands sucked after all by then and didn't much care for the ones I bothered to hear. Supergrass, Boo Radleys = OK. The Pulp I've never heard, even though I like(d) Pulp and everyone says it's good, because I didn't like the singles.

Things I might have voted for had they been on the list: Radiator (but I still prefer Fuzzy Logic), Six (but I haven't listened to it in a decade). I guess nothing by Gorky's counts as a "successful album" enough for me to vote for the follow-up...

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 5 May 2012 14:17 (twelve years ago) link

You know what follow-up to a very minor Britpop "success" I did hear is the second Silver Sun album which I got for a quid in a bargain bin and is really fucking terrible, and I say that as someone who actually still nurses some vaguely fond memories of the singles from the first album, which I figure are probably beyond the pale for the rest of ILX

instant coffee happening between us (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 5 May 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

a couple of irl ppl I know rep for Silver Sun on the basis of them being "classic powerpop" or something like that

not sure I'm behind that drive

listicular fortitude (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

Were Catherine Wheel and Swervedriver not included because they're not considered Britpop, or weren't popular? When I visited in Fall '97, "Bittersweet Symphony" was playing everywhere. EVERYWHERE!

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

Pulp will take and it gets my vote despite the album being too goddamn long. But The Menace is not bad at all and shorter than its competition.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

It says a lot that length is a factor in this poll

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

In It For The Money was the last Supergrass album I was really excited about. After that, the drummer's Moon-isms vanished,

I don't pay attention to Britpop drummers. Period.

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

I always thought Goffey was great, but drum geeks seem to think he was all-over-the-place.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

I still think Supergrass when better for each time until the fourth album. Then they started moving the wrong way again, but the debut remains their weakest to me, not really getting good until the tempo is being slowed down towards the end.

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

Silver Sun

first album is great, and the best nigel godrich production imo

second is dire, it was clear that dude had completely shot his songwriting wad by this point

the aower of aussy (electricsound), Sunday, 6 May 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

pulp slightly over supergrass

nakamura, Sunday, 6 May 2012 13:13 (twelve years ago) link

Blur or Supergrass. Leaning toward Supergrass.

― EZ Snappin, Friday, May 4, 2012 9:10 AM (2 days ago)

I listened to both and went with Blur.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 6 May 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

The first Silver Sun album is genuinely great powerpop throughout, plus their 2000s albums are much, much better than 'Neo Wave'.

Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Sunday, 6 May 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

man what a huge load of shit

goole, Sunday, 6 May 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

went for C'mon Kids... In my head I've written one of those 33 1/3 books about that album focussing on its classic status as follow up album to successful britpop release.

essentially, this thread in small book form.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Sunday, 6 May 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

even geir's posts?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 7 May 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

i expect a lot of albums to get no votes here

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 00:36 (twelve years ago) link

Well, I voted "menace"

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 06:21 (twelve years ago) link

i dont think i ever heard it tbh. probably haven't heard most of these albums mind you. For everyone saying its a depressing list and its proof the 90s were bad.. just remember most of these sold sod all.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

C'mon Kids is the one of these I've listened to recently and thought it still sounded fresh and good.

( and if This Is Hardcore is on here, why not OK Computer? )

thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

(because that one was reasonably successful compared to the previous album)

(OK, TIHArdcore got to number one, etc)

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

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thomp, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link


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