Head Music was almost a great album, the title track and Elephant Man are dreadful and Savoir Faire was always going to take some stick. Even with the sterile sound, it was really just 2 or 3 clunkers that brought the album down.
― Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:38 (twelve years ago) link
I wonder if living in the States made it easier for me to enjoy Be Here Now. It's not as good as Morning Glory, but even that album isn't great, and it doesn't feel like that big of a qualitative drop to me. Oasis does big, dumb rock songs, and those first three albums seem of a piece inasmuch as they were Oasis making the most of their v. limited range.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link
In it for the money
I've been listening to this all week. This album reminds me of the onset of summer, somehow.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
I was forced to listen to the whole of Morning Glory in the car the other day and I have to say it's one of the blandest hit records in the world. Everything about it points to the middle and the lyrics are just...
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
"Tomorrow never knows what it doesn't know real soon"
Makes you think...
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
Oh, Oasis lyrics are inarguably the worst perversion of the English language ever. I basically have to pretend they're sing in Cocteau-speak or another language altogether.
"You see me, I've got my magic pie."
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:12 (twelve years ago) link
"they're singing"
That post would be the second-worst perversion of the English language ever.
― You Don't Throw Oranges On An Escalator (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
The thing is, it's like savant babel English - absolutely anyone of a certain age can pretty much sing along to the whole record without questioning what the words mean. The words just roll (with it) off the tongue so easily. It's genius in a way. Walking slowly down the hall, faster than a cannonball.
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVc7ZB9DPGA
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
Between Blur and Elastica for me and I went for Elastica because The Menace doesn't get nearly enough love. Neither does The Great Escape for that matter but The Menace seemed the more urgent case.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
Walking slowly down the hall, faster than a cannonball.
GHarrison's famous 'first acid experience' had him and Lennon driving at some slow speed and thinking they was going at 100mph. So, maybe not that one.
The rest, yeah.
― Mark G, Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago) link
xpost yeah, I voted that one.
― Mark G, Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
What caused the arguable drop in quality between the Britpop 94-95 era and 96-98? Is it a matter that these bands had always been rubbish and that it was all hype? Or was there something else going on that made so many bands release lacklustre follow ups at this time?
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:27 (twelve years ago) link
drugs.
― Mark G, Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:29 (twelve years ago) link
Mark G otm. Heroin and cocaine, specifically.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
Suede, Elastica and Blur all did their fair share of both smack and coke. Oasis were notorious cokeheads. Members of Pulp and Ocean Colour Scene and one particular member of Supergrass liked a bit of the devil's dandruff. Paul Weller dabbled in coke alongside his Britpop mates in the '90s. Cast and Gomez were more stoners. The Boo Radleys were more into acid.
The cleanest band on the list above, funnily enough, is probably the Manics. And James Dean Bradfield was quite a heavy drinker. Even Sleeper were snorting lines in the toilets of The Good Mixer...
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
Oh yeah, Catatonia: Cerys Matthews ended up on heroin by the end of that. So many examples.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
also you have a bunch of indiekids in adidas tops suddenly becoming popstars and then trying to / being asked to write records for the Smash Hits and Top Of The Pops crowd. i think the records that survive are : the rock records that weren't ever part of the lurch from indie to mainstream; blur & supergrass who were always pop bands anyway, until later on at least; pulp & boos because those records are a conscious back-turning on the previous HITS!
― thomasintrouble, Thursday, 10 May 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
Never really realised the extent of the coke and horse thing, but it totally makes sense. I remember that era of Britpop feeling so bloated and self-important.
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
Embrace are pretty much clean.
For horse tails of latterday Britpop, look no further than Marion. Fucking hellfire.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
Oh god, yeah, Marion. It's incredible, because I saw them circa 1996 and they were very much 'together' onstage!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
Britpop always felt like it was its own worst enemy to me. Cool Brittania and all that, believing in themselves and their time in the sun and then going on to do some self-indulgent, bloated, overwrought turd w/no sense of fun. The first albums tended to be really cute at least, if not actually great, and by their third, unless they had basically reconfigured everything, they were unlistenable.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
'Cool Britannia' had fuck-all to do with the people making the music, and everything to do with the people writing about it. It went down better with some bands than with others. You'd be surprised at how many bands at the time hated terms like 'Britpop', 'Cool Britannia', 'Dadrock' and 'Noelrock', or just plain weren't arsed about being part of anything. Oasis took it to the other extreme, they literally lapped everything up, until they fell off the rails sometime post-Knebworth.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
i saw marion at t in the park and they were great (as was the album) never heard the 2nd japan only album.
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
"always felt" = I was in the States again and this was how they were trying to market it.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
HOW DOES IT FEELWHEN YOU'RE INSIDE
....ME
― Morrissey & Clunes: The Severed Alliance (PaulTMA), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
i wonder how much Pulp will win by?
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 10 May 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
97 Lovers.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Thursday, 10 May 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 11 May 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
nice work ILX
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
whoah
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
>:(
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link
bummer, I thought The Great Escape was gonna gather, well, much more votes than this
― V79, Friday, 11 May 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
i knew i was right.
― piscesx, Friday, 11 May 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
did not expect any albums to get 40+ votes
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
The fact that In It For The Money and This Is Hardcore were the top two doesn't surprise me at all. What surprises me is the MASSIVE spike in votes between 3rd place and 2nd.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link
This was a two-horse race for me between This Is Hardcore and In It For The Money, and after careful consideration I've went with This Is Hardcore.
Runners-up: The Great Escape, C'mon Kids...(snip)
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, May 4, 2012 5:11 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
C'mon Kids is a very good album you guys!
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Friday, 11 May 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
It's got some brilliant stuff on it, but it's definitely not an album for everyone.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 11 May 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link
can't really complain about these results
lol @ vote for reef
― 12plsrU (electricsound), Friday, 11 May 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
who voted for sleeper
― it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 11 May 2012 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
That top five is spot on. C'mon Kids is a great album, maybe my second favourite of theirs after Giant Steps.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 11 May 2012 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
i put it slightly after ichabod & i
― 12plsrU (electricsound), Friday, 11 May 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link
i actually own Ichabod & I on vinyl, the Boo Radleys worst album. even something not yet fully realized as Everything's Alright Forever is miles better than their debut.
― Bee OK, Friday, 11 May 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
I am listening to Giant Steps right this very moment(!) ... 'Upon 9th And Fairchild' is feedbacktastic.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 11 May 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link
I voted for Sleeper as it's the only one on the list I own! Not a good album, though.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 11 May 2012 03:23 (twelve years ago) link
131 voters?!
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 11 May 2012 05:40 (twelve years ago) link
I had no idea ILM loved Supergrass. That kinda rules.
― billstevejim, Friday, 11 May 2012 05:45 (twelve years ago) link
Suede got the most discussion and no votes! Must be bad...
― Mark G, Friday, 11 May 2012 06:06 (twelve years ago) link
Upon 9th and Fairchild is also dubtastic - makes me think of a cold blue-lit kitchen floor at 3am.
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Friday, 11 May 2012 08:01 (twelve years ago) link