Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

Yeah, I agree with that; the verse is not Dre's voice (in so much as Dre even has a voice these days). I give it a pass, though, just because his presence is so iconic and it's a key part of the song's Visit L.A. sales pitch

Dre's verses have always been karaoke

u sound young

he used to be better at hiding it

thats silly. ppl used to criticize his rapping all the time & they were wrong then too

xpost I dunno, 2001 was pretty much all Dre karaoke and it was awesome in part because of that (this was the beginning of his "so what if I use ghostwriter? no shame in it phase.") I think the problem is he's never had a ghostwriter with a voice as distinct as Kendrick's

i dunno, he used to seem less slavish in his imitation of his writers. i kind of put the fault on kendrick for writing dre something so obviously in his own voice tho.

eminem?

xp i don't buy that. jay-z, eminem, snoop, cube, doc?

yeah, eminem/snoop/cube were all strong voices too, obviously, but their personas heavily overlapped with Dre's in a way that Kendrick's doesn't. They all have their quirks, but there are a lot of interchangeable verses among the four of them. Kendrick is a real outlier

i kind of put the fault on kendrick for writing dre something so obviously in his own voice tho.

yeah, this is kind of true, but I give him a pass since I like the verse well enough anyway

i dont think kendrick is an outlier, its just a new voice
'forgot about dre' is super obviously a bunch of em verses in like every way, we just give it a pass cuz we heard it a bunch & its a dope song

yeah i don't know how you could consider kendrick's flow more distinctive than now "eminem" dre's verse in forgot about dre was

i dunno, maybe it's just that i didn't realize he didn't write his own raps at the time, but dre sounds way more "himself" on the chronic and 2001 to me.

totally agree; the ghost verses on "Forgot About Dre" were all angry and defensive, so they played on the popular image of Dre in a way that was believable enough

it must have been hard for eminem to channel than angry and defensive vibe dre wanted

for me it's less about the content than the rhythms

otm

some spin on the ball here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwamhuY6Yy8

i like this guy's stuff.

This guy is the new Nas

Take that as you will

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6krHJGimets

i really like him. take that as you will.

Doing a track with Lady Gaga apparently

i'm actually looking fwd to that quite a lot, doesn't seem like a natural fit

i like him too. i also like nas

This guy is the new Nas

Take that as you will

― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:34 PM Bookmark

This could mean practically anything.

ie maybe he is literally writing the songs on the new nas record

i dont see how that could mean practically anything; he holds a very specific place in hip hop

so specific, in fact, that calling anyone else "the new Nas" is utterly meaningless

well, you can take it as you will.. you must guess at D-40's own appraisal. and if you guess wrong, BAM in the dunk tank you go

lol seriously

i dont really see what's so hard to understand about that parallel

who's putting anyone in the dunk tank?

i mean, it seems evident to me Kendrick is a really talented rapper who's talent is so uncontroversial that he becomes a stand-in for 'quality rap' -- focus on skill above all, dry rap style, this kind of focus on purity of rap as a technical skill

you guys really cant figure that shit out on your own?

track in the OP = the new biddybiddybop

Section 80 was a lot weirder than that description suggests. Not too mention stuff like Cartoon & Cereal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTsKXc3Cixg

haha Nas is about 2 billion times weirder than kendrick

"Not too mention" christ

matt otm

i assumed deej's post was a comedy copy&paste due to the capital letters. guess not :/

kendrick and his pals are kinda the kinder gentler odd future in a way. your mom would like kendrick! but he's got the goods! and he is totally interesting to listen to. you want to hear what he has to say. and in that way he is nas-like definitely.

it's to the point now where it makes it hard for me to listen to nas...am i'm one of the boring ones that thinks illmatic will always be the greatest hip hop LP ever....but yeah he's got such a heavy vibe of just being fucking nuts now, he weirds me out....and it's not in this like Lil' B/Kool Keith way where their persona is being kooky (B) or insane (KK) but there are always like 25 throwaway o_O lines on any Nas album (if not more) where you're like what the fuck are you on dude?

like some dude pointed out on twitter the weird "b3stiality p0rn" reference that comes out of nowhere on the new album

haha you're overstating it a little but that creeping strangeness and oversharing is part of what imo makes post-Illmatic Nas continue to be worth listening to

yeah maybe!

i like the new one pretty much

omg google upper mississippi sh@kedown and find bestiality porn

Lol

i attribute those weird nas throwaway lines less to weirdness per se and more to a certain tone-deafness about how to say things, which is obviously an odd thing to say about a rapper, but i finished his latest album feeling vaguely sorry for him

Yeah, that's otm about Nas' tonedeafness.

My point earlier is there are so many different points of Nas' history and facets of his character that have come and gone that "the new Nas" without any other explication is pretty much a Rorschach Test.

i don't know if there's an elegant way to say women love it when you fart in your face because you are psychic

My point earlier is there are so many different points of Nas' history and facets of his character that have come and gone that "the new Nas" without any other explication is pretty much a Rorschach Test.

― Vagelis (The Reverend), Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:20 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im thinking more in critical reception & less in music although probably musical presentation

Drake can't even watch the weather forecast anymore pic.twitter.com/5vokNK1uZE

— Historic Vids (@historyinmemes) June 21, 2024

Drake's next song is going to be called "I'm Not Owned!"

"Not Like Us" is a collection earworm lines, his delivery is such that somehow I have a bar like "1-2-3-4-5 plus FIVE" stuck in my head

the one that’s been rattling around my brain is, “say drake, i hear ya like ‘em young”

the voice he does that one in is so good

its kinda olde timey

same (xpost, re: they're not slow) ^

i am far too busy for such a task, but i am tempted to do a poll of this song's earworms some late night after everyone else is asleep

oh wait, i just realized i read that wrong.

"like 'em young" is good, too

but the one i can't stop saying is

"hey drake, they're not slow"

but honestly, there are like 30 of these in this one song

to me, the very best of the bunch is:

BEAT YO ASS AND HIDE THE BIBLE IF GOD WATCHIN'

my son immediately latched onto "Baka got a weird case, why is he around?"

The Atlanta verse almost sounds like KRS could have rapped it on Edutainment:

Once upon a time, all of us was in chains
Homie still doubled down callin' us some slaves
Atlanta was the Mecca, buildin' railroads and trains
Bear with me for a second, let me put y'all on game
The settlers was usin' town folk to make 'em richer
Fast-forward, 2024, you got the same agenda

“Bear with me for a second, let me put y'all on game” = I know this is a diss track, but for the moment I’m taking you to school

yeah totally KRS

all eyes on me and I'mma send it up to PAC

first couple times I heard:

Pole on him, extort shit, bully, Death Row on him

as

Pole on him, extort shit, Willie DeFoe'n 'em

which i still like a lot

kind of wish there had been a 'let my little homies on ride on you' section to one of the track. Bring out Baby Keem for some absolute garbage.

He could do an extended version with three or four guest verses like that. Give Rick Ross one.

Baby Keem is definitely the Memphis Bleek of Top Dawg

Pull a "Dear Summer" on Baby Keem's next record