Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

thats silly. ppl used to criticize his rapping all the time & they were wrong then too

xpost I dunno, 2001 was pretty much all Dre karaoke and it was awesome in part because of that (this was the beginning of his "so what if I use ghostwriter? no shame in it phase.") I think the problem is he's never had a ghostwriter with a voice as distinct as Kendrick's

i dunno, he used to seem less slavish in his imitation of his writers. i kind of put the fault on kendrick for writing dre something so obviously in his own voice tho.

eminem?

xp i don't buy that. jay-z, eminem, snoop, cube, doc?

yeah, eminem/snoop/cube were all strong voices too, obviously, but their personas heavily overlapped with Dre's in a way that Kendrick's doesn't. They all have their quirks, but there are a lot of interchangeable verses among the four of them. Kendrick is a real outlier

i kind of put the fault on kendrick for writing dre something so obviously in his own voice tho.

yeah, this is kind of true, but I give him a pass since I like the verse well enough anyway

i dont think kendrick is an outlier, its just a new voice
'forgot about dre' is super obviously a bunch of em verses in like every way, we just give it a pass cuz we heard it a bunch & its a dope song

yeah i don't know how you could consider kendrick's flow more distinctive than now "eminem" dre's verse in forgot about dre was

i dunno, maybe it's just that i didn't realize he didn't write his own raps at the time, but dre sounds way more "himself" on the chronic and 2001 to me.

totally agree; the ghost verses on "Forgot About Dre" were all angry and defensive, so they played on the popular image of Dre in a way that was believable enough

it must have been hard for eminem to channel than angry and defensive vibe dre wanted

for me it's less about the content than the rhythms

otm

some spin on the ball here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwamhuY6Yy8

i like this guy's stuff.

This guy is the new Nas

Take that as you will

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6krHJGimets

i really like him. take that as you will.

Doing a track with Lady Gaga apparently

i'm actually looking fwd to that quite a lot, doesn't seem like a natural fit

i like him too. i also like nas

This guy is the new Nas

Take that as you will

― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:34 PM Bookmark

This could mean practically anything.

ie maybe he is literally writing the songs on the new nas record

i dont see how that could mean practically anything; he holds a very specific place in hip hop

so specific, in fact, that calling anyone else "the new Nas" is utterly meaningless

well, you can take it as you will.. you must guess at D-40's own appraisal. and if you guess wrong, BAM in the dunk tank you go

lol seriously

i dont really see what's so hard to understand about that parallel

who's putting anyone in the dunk tank?

i mean, it seems evident to me Kendrick is a really talented rapper who's talent is so uncontroversial that he becomes a stand-in for 'quality rap' -- focus on skill above all, dry rap style, this kind of focus on purity of rap as a technical skill

you guys really cant figure that shit out on your own?

track in the OP = the new biddybiddybop

Section 80 was a lot weirder than that description suggests. Not too mention stuff like Cartoon & Cereal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTsKXc3Cixg

haha Nas is about 2 billion times weirder than kendrick

"Not too mention" christ

matt otm

i assumed deej's post was a comedy copy&paste due to the capital letters. guess not :/

kendrick and his pals are kinda the kinder gentler odd future in a way. your mom would like kendrick! but he's got the goods! and he is totally interesting to listen to. you want to hear what he has to say. and in that way he is nas-like definitely.

it's to the point now where it makes it hard for me to listen to nas...am i'm one of the boring ones that thinks illmatic will always be the greatest hip hop LP ever....but yeah he's got such a heavy vibe of just being fucking nuts now, he weirds me out....and it's not in this like Lil' B/Kool Keith way where their persona is being kooky (B) or insane (KK) but there are always like 25 throwaway o_O lines on any Nas album (if not more) where you're like what the fuck are you on dude?

like some dude pointed out on twitter the weird "b3stiality p0rn" reference that comes out of nowhere on the new album

haha you're overstating it a little but that creeping strangeness and oversharing is part of what imo makes post-Illmatic Nas continue to be worth listening to

yeah maybe!

i like the new one pretty much

omg google upper mississippi sh@kedown and find bestiality porn

Lol

i attribute those weird nas throwaway lines less to weirdness per se and more to a certain tone-deafness about how to say things, which is obviously an odd thing to say about a rapper, but i finished his latest album feeling vaguely sorry for him

Yeah, that's otm about Nas' tonedeafness.

My point earlier is there are so many different points of Nas' history and facets of his character that have come and gone that "the new Nas" without any other explication is pretty much a Rorschach Test.

i don't know if there's an elegant way to say women love it when you fart in your face because you are psychic

My point earlier is there are so many different points of Nas' history and facets of his character that have come and gone that "the new Nas" without any other explication is pretty much a Rorschach Test.

― Vagelis (The Reverend), Thursday, August 16, 2012 3:20 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im thinking more in critical reception & less in music although probably musical presentation

more like "the new Jay Electronica" or "the new Lupe Fiasco" -- the new Nas is just a meaningless torch to get passed around the way rock critics used to crown a new Dylan every couple years

hes certainly made better songs than either of those dudes

(which, to not contradict myself, is why people have responded to him in a way that feels closer to nas than the others)

nah his career so far is v similar to Jay Electronica, scarcity of material aside

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:qrllvid7s54k4hnwtqxwetrf/bafkreif6v6pv6ngbth6jy22uld37nhvccdjaqmt3bfm4bm4dqkg5kxc6nm@jpeg

Full link to the decision if you'd like to enjoy more of this:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635046/gov.uscourts.nysd.635046.96.0.pdf

(And strictly speaking Drake was suing UMG, not Kendrick. Even so.)

I'm imagining that opinion read in the voice of Richard Griffiths.

another L for drakes trophy case

ah very interesting

The bot-farming aspect of the lawsuit doubles as an attack on Stake’s “tipping” function, which allows users to transfer funds between accounts—a common feature of online casinos. The lawsuit claims that Drake, Ross, and Nguyen used the feature to covertly transfer gambling proceeds. That “wholly unregulated money transmitter,” the lawsuit adds, financed Nguyen’s further promotion of Stake, as well as a campaign to artificially boost Drake streams and “fabricate popularity; disparage competitors and music label executives; and distort recommendation algorithms.” This scheme, the lawsuit alleges, is carried out on platforms such as Spotify and “has suppressed authentic artists and narrowed consumers’ access to legitimate content.”

https://pitchfork.com/news/drake-accused-of-rico-gambling-and-stream-boosting-scheme-in-new-lawsuit/

You know the wild thing is that the judge in Drake‘s unsuccessful lawsuit is one of my college classmates

good on them telling drake to just take the L already man

I’m imagining a Drake song titled “I’m in Court” set to the cadence of “I’m Upset”

I had to read that a couple times to sorta understand it. So Nguyen was some random Australian dude promoting Stake for some reason, in addition to the bot farming? And this whole thing was financed by gambling proceeds? What was their edge on that?

i think gambling proceeds is prob inaccurate here its just money thats in the stake casino app thats easy to send between accounts without anyone telling the government, nguyen is a shady internet marketing guy that aiden ross and drake are paying to do shady internet marketing schemes including pump drakes stream numbers with bots

wonder if the promoting stake part is nguyen using bots to get drake and ross fraudulent affiliate fees

anyway this is just a civil case but all these things are crimes drake and famous streamer aiden ross could get in real trouble

is being too dumb to understand what a crime is a defense? from what i’ve seen of aiden ross… hmm

lmao u ever seen this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNIYvOpTsh8