― Moka, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 06:57 (fifteen years ago) link
― Moka, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 06:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Mmm only one I could find that's not a live rendition. Ignore the anime
― Moka, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 07:01 (fifteen years ago) link
― Moka, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 07:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Im actually curious about your opinion on their music.
― Moka, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 07:07 (fifteen years ago) link
I like the Cerrati solo cd I have and need to check out Soda Stereo.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 07:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Cerati, in critical condition after suffering from a stroke :(
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2010/05/21/argentina-rocker-gustavo-cerati-suffers-stroke-after-concert/
― the subject of many men’s thoughts (daavid), Saturday, 22 May 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Really sad. I like 'Sueño Stereo' very much and the last live record. Reminds me of the week I spent in Buenos Aires 10 years ago.
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 22 May 2010 23:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Just 50 years old. Hopefully he will have a full recovery.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 23 May 2010 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link
One of my faves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2teJAInwyK8&feature=related
― the subject of many men’s thoughts (daavid), Sunday, 23 May 2010 05:30 (fourteen years ago) link
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100522/ap_en_mu/lt_venezuela_cerati
slight medical improvement
― curmudgeon, Monday, 24 May 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Sort of big news here in Latin America. Overheard today that he's recovering now but they predict brain damage. Hopefully not severe.
― Moka, Monday, 24 May 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
After four years in a coma, Cerati died a few hours ago.
I know noone outside Spanish speaking countries knew him so ILM doesn't really have any grasp of how famous he is (think the equivalent of Bob Dylan, fame-wise) but he was perhaps the most important rock musician in all latinamerica.
There's many songs to choose from and perhaps this one is not the most interesting musically-wise but this unplugged version is the latin equivalent of Freebird over here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57uXgCKy0Xc
If anyone's interested I can make a 10 soda stereo 10 cerati songs playlist - keeping in mind you don't speak spanish and his lyrics are pretty much the point - with a selection of his songs.
― Moka, Thursday, 4 September 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
:(
― daavid, Thursday, 4 September 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link
RIP :(
― The Wu-Tang Declan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 4 September 2014 17:33 (nine years ago) link
Oh ok, spotify is doing a tribute playlist and the selection is good so here you go if any of you ever gets curious about him:
http://open.spotify.com/user/spotifyenespa%c3%b1ol/playlist/7qneCVNFWczoSnfdFqfH66
― Moka, Thursday, 4 September 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link
Just saw the news. Terrible to hear.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 September 2014 02:58 (nine years ago) link
RIP
― curmudgeon, Friday, 5 September 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BntcdLZCxM
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 5 September 2014 15:34 (nine years ago) link
Thread of missing Gustavo
― The Clones of Baron Funkhausen by Proxy Syndrome (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 June 2015 02:51 (eight years ago) link
tried to listen to this new This Year's Model in Spanish but it made me want to listen to Soda Stereo instead.
― No Particular Place to POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 August 2021 15:15 (two years ago) link
Hey timely revive: I only started checking out this band in the past month or so, and wow, Dynamo is excellent! The wikipedia page calls it the "hispanic Loveless", which doesn't seem to quite fit, but maybe the hispanic Achtung Baby? I mean, that would be a huge compliment in my book, anyway
I actually started with Bocanada because it seemed more my thing but I didn't really take to it apart from a track or two
― Vinnie, Sunday, 15 August 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link
Listening to Gustavo’s last solo album, “Fuerza Natural,” on a friend’s recommendation and it sounds pretty good.
― Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 August 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link
Same friend complains about Soda Stereo being too derivative, but I’ve never agreed with him on that.
― Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 August 2021 01:12 (two years ago) link
Then there’s also this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhyRuCfs5Js
― Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 August 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link
Well he never denied his anglophile tendencies. Here talking about Stereolab on Chilean television in 1996.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h70wnnmMBT4
― CarlosDP, Monday, 30 August 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCdOGM-Ac-8
― CarlosDP, Monday, 30 August 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link
Thanks!
― Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 August 2021 17:42 (two years ago) link
Me, I usually find his tracks pretty convincing and don't worry about whether they may sound like something else, and I especially like his voice.
― Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 August 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
i asked my chilean partner who the kevin shields of latin america was and they said cerati. led me down a huge rabbithole. i definitely prefer his solo stuff but dynamo is my favorite SS album. it's like a long-lost shoegaze/dreampop classic.
bocanada is definitely my favorite, but all of his solo albums are worth listening to. the cerati/melero collab is also excellent
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 August 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link
also i swear there's a david sylvian sample on 'siempre es hoy'
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 August 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link
Haha, talking about the Latin American Kevin Shields, and at the risk of deraling the thread... in the mid-nineties Cerati lived here in Chile and certainly had an influence on the sound of a certain shoegazy indie from that era.
Shogun and Christianes, both Christian Heyne's bands. Later he produced Javiera Mena first albums.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxjfEl5mRBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22ARVj3wdv4
― CarlosDP, Monday, 30 August 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link
Solar had a hit in 97 in Chile ripping off "Soon".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3poBW_8p08
― CarlosDP, Monday, 30 August 2021 18:45 (two years ago) link
awesome! i'd love to learn about more experimental latin american artists. new thread maybe?
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Monday, 30 August 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link
Thanks :-) . I think here we have the all purpose latin experimental, indie, hipster shit thread.
latin american hipster shit
― CarlosDP, Monday, 30 August 2021 19:59 (two years ago) link
Gracias totales.
― The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 December 2022 13:18 (one year ago) link
Nada más queda
― Gene Markey’s Goin’ Off (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 March 2023 14:10 (one year ago) link
I've listened through all their albums since my post upthread, ending with the debut just a couple weeks ago. I can see why they may be called derivative, but it's much more apt to say they are great at taking different styles and putting their own spin on it. Cerati's unique songwriting and singing voice always comes through
― Vinnie, Friday, 10 March 2023 00:07 (one year ago) link
otm
― Gene Markey’s Goin’ Off (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 March 2023 00:09 (one year ago) link
I was just alerted to this song, Richard Coleman’s “Normal,” which is apparently pretty well-known because of Gustavo’s shredding that starts around the three minute and never lets up.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVI0vh1Rc84
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 March 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link
https://lamejormagazine.com/2022/08/30/zeta-bosio-revela-la-obsesion-de-cerati-en-soda-stereo%EF%BF%BC/
Y hablando de hits, Zeta Bosio confiesa la esencia de los hits de Soda Stéreo compuestos por Gustavo Cerati.«Las letras las escribía más Gustavo, eran un viaje más personal. Al principio, sobre todo, le costaba mucho y esperaba hasta el último momento. Teníamos el disco casi terminado y las letras llegaban el último día más o menos.«Algo que descubrió Gustavo, sobre todo al comienzo era: él tenía una obsesión por tratar de que las letras en español no sonaran tan distintas al inglés; o sea ¿por qué el inglés era tan rítmico para el rock?, porque ellos lo habían creado de una manera, pero el idioma está lleno de palabras cortas que expresan mucho en un monosílabo.«Entonces, él encontró en las esdrújulas del castellano repartirlas en tres sílabas y empezar a hacer con eso melodías, y así vinieron ‘Prófugos…’ y un montón de letras de Gustavo que están hechas de esa manera».
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 March 2023 01:02 (one year ago) link
Ricardo Villalobos playing a speeded up version of Nuestra Fe by Soda Stereo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcG8pVLN2Wc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5paepjECJBQ
― CarlosDP, Saturday, 11 March 2023 01:05 (one year ago) link
Re the comments above from Zeta about Gustavo’s lyrical approach: my friend who first cited that to me also told me that pre-Gustavo many of most Argentine Rock en Español artist would write scratch demo lyrics in some kind of English gibberish and then eventually retrofit the Spanish lyrics, providing this Charley Garcia demo as proof:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxr5c7Pd0d0
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:06 (one year ago) link
Charly García
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 March 2023 03:10 (one year ago) link
Still trying to figure out how Richard Coleman fits in. Seems like he was collaborating with Gustavo for a long time and has played in Soda Stereo (with the remaining members? On the recent Gracias Totales tour?)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRCHltKDXo0
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 March 2023 14:15 (one year ago) link
Here is the original “Gracias totales” moment, his Ziggy Stardust breakup of the band. It’s kind of moving to watch.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX-us7PEfkc
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 March 2023 14:24 (one year ago) link
Feed just gave me a video of Gustavo and Shakira singing “Cuidad de La furia.”Gustavo’s solo is pretty terrific.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylndY8Ufx-k
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 March 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link
Hadn’t known that Shakira had been a big fan and they ended up collaborating quite a few times.
This is the video I originally came across, which seems to have better sound and picture quality but is missing the intro and some other stuff.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Niv8YWnI41k
― Think Fast, Mr. Mojo Risin’ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 March 2023 14:41 (one year ago) link
I don't/didn´t know if writing scratch demo lyrics in English was a generalized modus operandi in the "rock en español". In south america at least, the break in the use of english, and the beginning of rock in español was between the first generation of post-beatles bands that wrote in english such as Los Shakers, Los Mockers in Uruguay, Los Macs, Vidrios Quebrados in Chile, and groups and artists in Argentina like Los Gatos and Tanguito who started singing in spanish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSHgkQ2Wp5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPdooS2A0-Y
There were also attempts in the 1970s and 1980s to record in English to enter this market, without success (Spinetta's Only Love Can Sustain perhaps the most notorious example). Soda Stereo even recorded a couple of songs in English. In this case, comparing with the originals I don't think it sounds good, something is lost in the translation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2c9yLAFM8Q
― CarlosDP, Saturday, 11 March 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link
Un hombre alado etc
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:37 (one year ago) link
Not to be confused with a Lobo Hombre.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 22:38 (one year ago) link
Revisiting his solo career and I hadn’t really contextualized his music on release date and it’s blowing my mind how in 1992 he was so ahead of the curve. I always assumed a song like “Cozumel” was from the mid 90s. Noone in latinamerica understood and implemented as efficiently trending genres like shoegaze and downtempo/trip hop as good as him. It took several years for the rest of the world to catch up with artists as him.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 03:25 (one year ago) link
Best I could do for his solo output: 2 highlight, imho, songs per album - with the exception of “+ bien” which is soundtrack work and probably just worth a listen for completion purposes.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7baccsvllKfsimqhRwCmhj
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link
Thank you kindly - great starting points. Always takes me a bit longer to absorb non-English music so having a little more focus is great.
Problem with the comps, I see now, is that they have some earlier angular post-punk funk tracks (like very early Go-Betweens?) that I don’t really care about that much.― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, June 13, 2023 10:17 PM
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, June 13, 2023 10:17 PM
Ha, I have the same issue with early Go-Betweens despite liking other bands that exist solely in the angular post-punk funk zone!
― etc, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 20:09 (one year ago) link
Added two tracks per album of Soda Stereo too… I’m omitting some of his biggest hits (de musica ligera, persiana americana, adios, crimen...) … not because I don’t like them but because I feel like there’s better songs in their respective albums and those are a very basic intro.
Tempted to treat “comfort” as not a live unplugged album but as a closing album, an add songs from it too. Most of the versions in there - particularly their early songs - are wildly different from the original ones. Even a song as iconic as “en la ciudad de la furia” feels like a totally different song. Both the unplugged and album versions are great.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 23:41 (one year ago) link
Yeah fuck it I’m adding “te para tres”, that song is nowhere near one of the highlights of “cancion animal” but it turns into one of the best moments in the unplugged version. Adds a solo lifted from “cementerio club” by Pescado Rabioso (Spinetta)- a classic argentinian rock song on its own - and brings the song to another level.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 15 June 2023 00:24 (one year ago) link
Bocanada is a hard one… again I’d probably recommend to listen to that one in full. It’s probably Cerati’s magnum opus imho.
Picking Raiz and Tabu since they’re the ones I’m most in the mood for with the current heatwaves and they’re the two songs that convinced me in the first place to buy this album back in 2000-something.
Raiz is very sample heavy but it’s built so effortlessly you’d think it’s all Cerati. There’s samples of Deodato (breakbeat), XTC (guitar break), Jaivas (Flutes), Thomas Dolby (main guitar) and even Mark Snow from the X files soundtrack!
Tabu’s main groove is lifted from Spencer Davis Group “waltz for Lumumba”, I love the energy Cerati adds to the groove. Probably Cerati’s best opening track both in Soda and a solo artist.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 15 June 2023 00:41 (one year ago) link
Could have easily picked the title track or “paseo inmoral” which is based around Garry Glitter’s rock n roll.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 15 June 2023 00:44 (one year ago) link
Ha, been meaning to concentrate and figure out what this last sample was, and whether it was an actual sample.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 June 2023 10:38 (one year ago) link
Wow at dropping the Bocanada sample knowledge. Just found this handy video about that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HMo9Wun31o
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 June 2023 10:50 (one year ago) link
somehow had never noticed Kim Deal in there!
― with hidden noise, Thursday, 15 June 2023 11:56 (one year ago) link
All the samples are fun to learn about but the one that made me smile the most for whatever reason was the John Barry.
― CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 June 2023 13:34 (one year ago) link
For an example of the early stuff that is okay but not my favorite, see “Danza Rota.”
― Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 June 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link
Heh, just came across an album for kids called Babies Go Soda.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:15 (eleven months ago) link
I think Soda gets interesting from Signos onwards, the first two albums have some of their big hits but sound too generic - with some exceptions like “cuando pase el temblor” which is probably the first BIG Soda song.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:18 (eleven months ago) link
Sounds about right.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:48 (eleven months ago) link
Signos has three big hits, I think, but the whole album flows from start to finish. It’s much more open, both spacious and dense, from start to finish.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:51 (eleven months ago) link
Also just came across this:https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xlze59
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:57 (eleven months ago) link
^“Lo que sangra (La cúpula)” from the reunion tour with some special guests.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 16:58 (eleven months ago) link
I think this is supposed to put the kids to sleep.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGyfr_NaEqs
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 24 June 2023 17:00 (eleven months ago) link
Lol that doesn’t sound very pleasant to sleep to.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 24 June 2023 19:51 (eleven months ago) link
Guess they figured they had to give Dan Zanes a run for his money.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 June 2023 00:40 (eleven months ago) link
Never listened to or even knew about this early live album Ruido Blanco before today.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 June 2023 14:34 (eleven months ago) link
Then found another live recording from early on, this one simply called En Vivo, which has a lot of noise. Seems to be the soundtrack of a performance, the first night in Viña Del Mar in 1987.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 June 2023 15:34 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZsMmket4e0
Guess they were promoting Signos, which was released the previous November and then had the three singles coming out throughout the year.Crowd noise on this sounds like some Beatles stuff#onethread
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 June 2023 15:52 (eleven months ago) link
Crowd doesn’t quite know “Persiana Americana” yet. There is some screaming when he starts singing but that’s it.
― Johnny Bit Rot (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 June 2023 15:54 (eleven months ago) link
Somos cómplices los dos
― Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 June 2023 23:10 (eleven months ago) link
My music listening in general lately has been slow, but I did finally hear Amor Amarillo (hooray for titles even I can understand). "Lisa" and "Te llevo para que me lleves" are good, the latter a cool take on Isn't Anything MBV, but thought the rest was pretty sluggish. I will give Bocanada another listen eventually but so far I much prefer Soda to Cerati solo
― Vinnie, Saturday, 1 July 2023 19:20 (eleven months ago) link
Think the production is less dense on his solo stuff but his singing, songwriting and guitar playing is still strong.
― Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 July 2023 20:57 (eleven months ago) link
That could be it. I think I tend to like fuller productions in general
― Vinnie, Saturday, 1 July 2023 22:55 (eleven months ago) link
Too much time on this thread:Just a few hours ago I overheard someone saying “Gracias” and my mind automatically added “Totales!”
― Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 July 2023 18:40 (eleven months ago) link
Soda getting a Latin Grammy Lifetime Achievement award. https://www.grammy.com/news/latin-recording-academy-announces-2023-special-merit-award-honorees
― Live and Left Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 16:56 (ten months ago) link
Just read more about when he did that Police tribute song. Pretty interesting.
― Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 July 2023 14:08 (ten months ago) link
Heh, can you guess who were the Top Two artists in my Spotify 2023 Wrapped?
― Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 17:16 (six months ago) link
Had to step away for a bit but now I’m back
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 29 February 2024 18:15 (three months ago) link
good timing, I just dug out Canción Animal for the first time in a while. for some reason I have a hard time remembering its tracks (apart from "De Música Ligera"), so I forget how good it is
― Vinnie, Thursday, 29 February 2024 23:54 (three months ago) link
Ha exactly! That album is full of great tracks, many of them also live staples. Often I forget “De Música Ligera” is even on there.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 March 2024 00:43 (three months ago) link
Also many of these tracks not so uptempo so kind of heavier but still really cool.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 March 2024 00:44 (three months ago) link
Yeah they play with time signature, mood, tempo to create a pretty diverse set of songs. Though they throw "Cae el Sol" at the end so you get an anthemic chorus
Also wtf... 9 of the 10 songs were released as singles??
― Vinnie, Friday, 1 March 2024 11:54 (three months ago) link
Forgot about that.
― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 March 2024 13:18 (three months ago) link
What an amazing album Bocanada is.
― Tim F, Friday, 3 May 2024 02:09 (one month ago) link
OTM. Kind of amazing how his solo career was a match for his band years and how many there are who prefer the solo stuff.
― Billion Year Polyphonic Spree (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 May 2024 02:31 (one month ago) link
Top 10 latinamerican albums of all time and Cerati probably a top 3 latinamerican artist.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 3 May 2024 02:38 (one month ago) link