Fugazi : Classic or Dud ?

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Guilty! of Eating Oats

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 14 July 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

we had a house guest renting here, he used our food, didn't pay rent

These are like Black Flag lyrics. Or maybe Descendents.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 14 July 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, I've been on a Fugazi hinge this week.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 15 July 2012 10:48 (eleven years ago) link

Never a bad time to listen to Fugazi, imo. Got a few of the remasters last year, Repeater esp. sounds fantastic.

that mustardless plate (Bill A), Sunday, 15 July 2012 12:25 (eleven years ago) link

never a bad time for a Mount Cleaners thread revive post either

if you are a false nine don't entry (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 15 July 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

Politics and being from DC does not make for intelligent music. I can't stand Fugazi, sorry.

this is my favorite use of "sorry" - "I dug up a thread to talk about something nobody else had brought up for several months & which you certainly weren't thinking about right now - well guess what, I don't like this band, sorry"

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 12:51 (eleven years ago) link

Politics and being from DC does not make for intelligent music.

Seriously, fuck Duke Ellington.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link

It's weird when one of these thread bumps throws up a band that I haven't even thought about in years. Don't think I could go quite as far as 'classic' for them but they have def released their share of good records. Tempted to put on The Argument this evening now - that was always my favorite from them so I guess I gravitate towards their more polished/songful stuff.

Not The Other One (Mr Andy M), Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

I hate Fugazi because of inconsiderate houseguests. I mean, I'd like 'em okay if it weren't for that, but they always come hand-in-hand with inconsiderate houseguests, except for ian mackaye of course, who is the consummate houseguest and always washes his dishes.

Poliopolice, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

figuring out the most fugazi way for fugazi to reunite is a fun pasttime. I vote playing a new album in full at Fort Reno for free. ZERO NOSTALGIA, ZERO PROFIT.

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link

no way, gotta be benefit for hispanic community center in church basement on euclid

some dude, Sunday, 15 July 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

still no hits, and only advance notice is a tweet from henry that day

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

"ian's gonna kill me for this, but heads up..."

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

could actually see them doing what shellac does and playing shows in places they all feel like visiting. like towns you've never heard of in Italy.

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, god we had a house guest renting here, he used our food, didn't pay rent, and listened to "melodic" "soulful" music like Fugazi all of the time.

Politics and being from DC does not make for intelligent music. I can't stand Fugazi, sorry.

He can come back and visit when he learns what good music is.

― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว akaPlease You Fag Punk Rockers (Mount Cleaners), Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:29 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So even after eating all your food and stiffing you on rent, you'd still welcome him back if he doesn't like fugazi anymore?

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 15 July 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

all european travel shows livestreamed for free

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

actually maybe just available on the archive

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

i was kind of surprised they didn't do a benefit for ca1 r0bbins

mookieproof, Sunday, 15 July 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

a friend of a friend was filming stuff around an empty dock area in asbury park, heard some music coming from a warehouse, opened a door, saw the E Street Band rocking out, and a burly dude ran to the door screaming "YOU CAN'T BE HERE" and closed it in his face. just once i want to hear a similar story about someone hearing sinuous post-punk grooves in the wind in a residential area outside DC.

da croupier, Sunday, 15 July 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

Fugazi is/was one of the few bands that took the hardcore form and actually took it somewhere

lol, right

anyway i never really cared for them and am just waiting for the day someone can mention being from DC and someone isn't "oh, right, fugazi mannnnnn" like they've really been that relevant here in the past X decades

fauxmarc, Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

Blows my mind that anyone would shrug at a band this good, but I guess different strokes, new generation, kids today, etc.

What band has been relevant in - or from - DC since Fugazi broke up?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

No one. They all come from Baltimore.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 15 July 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

Fugazi are awesome and slagging them is silly challops for silly challops' sake.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 15 July 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link

Should pick up the 13 Songs remaster. Steady Diet and Instrument (Soundtrack) are the only ones I don't own.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 15 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

Blows my mind that anyone would shrug at a band this good, but I guess different strokes, new generation, kids today, etc.

otm

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 July 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

What band has been relevant in - or from - DC since Fugazi broke up?

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, July 15, 2012 2:40 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No one. They all come from Baltimore.

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, July 15, 2012 2:42 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

XD

some dude, Sunday, 15 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

The only people I know who hate Fugazi do so as an extension of their hardline anti-DIY stance.

Ówen P., Sunday, 15 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

them and ice cream eating motherfuckers

I DIED, Sunday, 15 July 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

Back in my 1990s noise rock days, I used to hate Fugazi because everyone told me I had to like them as they were "real". I always found the whole thing a bit macho, this idea of sweaty men putting in a shift on the coalface of punk rock. Also I hated yowly vocals.

These days I couldn't care less about them one way or the other.

don't slip in mud (Matt #2), Sunday, 15 July 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

Fugazi is/was one of the few bands that took the hardcore form and actually took it somewhere

ha yeah my instinct is to rmde at this but I don't think it's a greatly objectionable statement in itself

the implication that "taking it somewhere" is of paramount importance is more or less bs however

if you are a false nine don't entry (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 15 July 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

I remember back when I was a young, impressionable Fugazi fan growing up in DC, there were always older hardcore heads around who would say that Fugazi "betrayed punk" or "ruined hardcore" or whatever. I didn't really get it because I was 13 and I didn't even know what hardcore was, except for Minor Threat, which I knew about because of Fugazi.

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Sunday, 15 July 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

that their craft continued to improve as they went is I think an undermade point - people go nuts for Kill Taker which is the "important" one I guess but every album is legitimately great listening imo

perry en concrète (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 15 July 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

Honestly, I think the remasters are unremarkable. In fact, I was emailing back and forth with Dischord a while back just to figure out if the remasters I bought were actually remastered. There really isn't anything obvious that distinguishes them from the earlier issues, save a little sticker, sometimes. As per most reissues, the levels are higher, which is good for the MP3 age.

xpost Who the fuck cares about "real?" They were real awesome .

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 July 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

There was a Fugazi backlash as early as "Repeater." Fuck that noise.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 July 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

Fuck that noise.

was this supposed to be a pun?

Poliopolice, Sunday, 15 July 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

Also I hated yowly vocals.

Misread this as "jowly vocals."

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 July 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link

that their craft continued to improve as they went is I think an undermade point - people go nuts for Kill Taker which is the "important" one I guess but every album is legitimately great listening imo

^ this. For me, they only faltered once (Steady Diet), but that aside, every record was a step forward...and sometimes a "holy shit!" step forward.

Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 July 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

somehow i always think of fugazi as hard workers and ambassadors for a certain ethos, not as good musicians or good songwriters. i always feel like their appeal is rooted heavily in their 'way of life', not the actually music. however, i am actually not that familiar with their music aside from a few songs.

Poliopolice, Sunday, 15 July 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

^ this. For me, they only faltered once (Steady Diet), but that aside, every record was a step forward...and sometimes a "holy shit!" step forward.

i sort of went backwards through their catalog after they went on hiatus but i would've liked to have been paying attention right around when red medicine came out. and then end hits, christ

tight-as-hell band becomes progressively tighter-than-hell

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 15 July 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJFWirQ3ks

j., Sunday, 15 July 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

Went through the few Fugazi CDs in my rack and woah, I'd forgotten that I actually owned a copy of Red Medicine. This album is much better than I remembered, much sharper and more organised.

Not The Other One (Mr Andy M), Sunday, 15 July 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

not as good musicians

Musically, I'd put Fugazi as a band up there with pretty much any band, ever. I mean, you might like other bands more, but musically, Fugazi was as tight as can be. Ian has repeatedly said the number one holdup to a reunion is that it took basically hours of practice, every single day, every single week, just for Fugazi to stay up to speed.

And yet! They never show off. It's just awesomely intricate and original without being flashy.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 July 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

i thought they were tight before on record anyway, and you can hear it on live recordings too, but i've never seen them live and so trawling through their live youtube videos earlier this summer was really eye-opening for me. you can just see how together they are, how much freedom it gives them to adjust the performance in very small but fluid ways. it seems like it's no accident that they're also notorious for engaging so much with the audience non-musically.

j., Sunday, 15 July 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think there are too many bands of whom many ppl (including me) claim their last/seventh album is their best

mookieproof, Sunday, 15 July 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

Well there's Heldon

don't slip in mud (Matt #2), Sunday, 15 July 2012 23:49 (eleven years ago) link

i saw a band cover 'waiting room' @ a bar in ocean city

am0n, Monday, 16 July 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

somehow i always think of fugazi as hard workers and ambassadors for a certain ethos, not as good musicians or good songwriters. i always feel like their appeal is rooted heavily in their 'way of life', not the actually music. however, i am actually not that familiar with their music aside from a few songs.

― Poliopolice, Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:28 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Do you ever actually read your posts before hitting submit?

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 July 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link

i saw a band cover 'waiting room' @ a bar in ocean city

― am0n, Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:00 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yeah it always cracks me up how that song is basically pop culture in just this part of the country -- played at sporting events, occasionally on the radio, etc.

some dude, Monday, 16 July 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link

Do you ever actually read your posts before hitting submit?

If you have an actual disagreement with something someone says, it would be nice if you just stated what it was, instead of just being a condescending jerk.

Poliopolice, Monday, 16 July 2012 04:49 (eleven years ago) link

"Well I always got the impression that they were mainly about the lifestyle and not good at music. But I never listened to the music."

Will Chave (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 July 2012 04:57 (eleven years ago) link


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