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― Hurting 2, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Get it?
A few weeks apart? I don't think they were. "Hunky Dory" is more singer songwriterish, more arranged, ZSATSFM has a band feel to it - same musicians playing on every track.
According to http://www.5years.com:
Hunky Dory recorded April 1971. Moonage Daydream/Hang On To Yourself recorded & released May 1971 (although not the album versions). "It Ain't Easy" recorded June 1971. Most of the rest of the album recorded November 1971, ie, before Hunky Dory was even released!
Although I agree the two albums have a different vibe, there are quite a lot of similarities, surely. A song like Queen Bitch could have sat happily on Ziggy. Lady Stardust wouldn't have sounded out of place on Hunky Dory. Velvet Goldmine could have gone on either. Ultimately, I think Hunky Dory has a little more depth.
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link
You're right, on reflection, they're not that different. Thing is, I like every song on "Ziggy" but I don't like every song on "Hunky Dory"
― Tom D., Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:05 (seventeen years ago) link
Fair enough!
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link
that horribly clunky dying/lying couplet
More than made up for by
I think I saw you in an ice-cream parlour Drinking milkshakes cold and long Smiling and waving and looking so fine I don't think you knew you were in this song
― ledge, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah, 5 years has an odd mix of horrible and sublime lyrics. That "earth was really dying", though, truly awful!
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 14:25 (seventeen years ago) link
Really tough choice, but "Moonage Daydream."
― Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link
Brutal.
I'm with the Five Years/Moonage Daydream/Lady Stardust crowd, but y'know what? Ziggy Stardust absolutely crushes if you can put aside the 500 times you've already heard it and listen as if for the first time...
― rogermexico., Tuesday, 4 September 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link
I voted for Lady Stardust and it was all right.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― ILX System, Tuesday, 4 September 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― ILX System, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
Moonage Daydream?! I usually skip that song
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 September 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link
This snippet from a Feb. 1972 interview is supposed to explain the asinine inclusion of "It Ain't Easy":
Interviewer: Could you explain a little more in-depth about the album that's coming out ... Ziggy?
Bowie: I'll try very hard...its a little difficult but it originally started as a concept album, but it kind of got broken up because I found other songs I wanted to put in the album which wouldn't have fitted into the story of Ziggy...so at the moment its a little fractured and a little fragmented...
More here.
Awful, awful song.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 6 September 2007 03:08 (seventeen years ago) link
"Suffragette City," Teh Lurker's Choice!
― rogermexico., Thursday, 6 September 2007 04:51 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Hurting 2
I don't get it, Hurting, sorry. Looking forward to the explanation!
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Thursday, 6 September 2007 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link
The lurkers surprise me. I thought they'd have gone for "Starman" or maybe the title track, but it seems "Sufragette City" was their pick.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 6 September 2007 08:43 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm so happy "Five Years" placed so well. That is honestly the song that has prevented this album from falling into the oblivion of my memory.
Here he is, 1972:
― Bimble, Sunday, 9 September 2007 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link
Though I really do want to give a big shoutout to Moonage Daydream, thanks Alex for mentioning that one.
― Bimble, Sunday, 9 September 2007 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link
There are so many great tracks, and as such I have no problem with the huge following for "Moonage Daydream" and "Five Years". Both excellent.
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 9 September 2007 23:32 (seventeen years ago) link
Five years. It's almost like he's talking about punk: 1977. Good god.
― Bimble, Monday, 10 September 2007 05:32 (seventeen years ago) link
"Moonage Daydream" was the correct answer.
― W4LTER, Monday, 10 September 2007 05:35 (seventeen years ago) link
"it ain'e easy" shouldve been replaced with "suffragette city"
― Zeno, Monday, 10 September 2007 06:26 (seventeen years ago) link
I know, I'm drunk, I'll wear hangover shame tomorrow but by god Bowie has killed me.
Here's Moonage Daydream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p79JKclG-oc
And possibly more importantly, here's "My Death", the Jacques Brel cover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIzE3j84kKU
― Bimble, Monday, 17 September 2007 07:34 (seventeen years ago) link
and what's this interesting White Stripes cover of Moonage Daydream? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR6WUS4ya5M
― Bimble, Monday, 17 September 2007 07:54 (seventeen years ago) link
this is the best : "starman" with all the children boogie, the half white half black long hair and mick and david hugging each other...the harmony...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muMcWMKPEWQ&mode=related&search=
― Zeno, Monday, 17 September 2007 08:14 (seventeen years ago) link
Okay I finally have the Ziggy movie now. I had to take a taxi to get there, though because the video shops in my neighborhood didn't have it. It makes me feel so weird cause I saw it in theaters when I was 11 years old and I tried to understand the whole cult around him but I couldn't understand at the time. I remember it came out around the time Prince's Purple Rain did. I feel like a prodigal son.
― Bimble, Monday, 17 September 2007 22:21 (seventeen years ago) link
Holy shit, he mentions T-Rex in "All The Young Dudes" doesn't he?
― Bimble, Monday, 17 September 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link
Ground Control to Major Tom.
― Bimble, Monday, 17 September 2007 23:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Bowie to play the Ziggy Stardust album live at Coachella 2009?
― StanM, Monday, 26 January 2009 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I can think of albums that a sixtysomething, post-heart-attack Bowie could perform with dignity, but Ziggy isn't one of them.
― Zelda Zonk, Monday, 26 January 2009 15:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I also see no reason why he should become a pure nostalgia act. Unlike The Who and The Eagles, Bowie's last couple of albums were pretty good. No, not as good as "Ziggy Stardust" or the rest of his classic 70s output, but still good enough to stand in their own feet as pretty nice pop albums.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 11:31 (fifteen years ago) link
pretty nice pop albums.
Well, no disregard to you here, but wouldn't DBowie hate being described thus?
Also, it's been a long time since his last one, and no-one's been missing/yearning for it like they did for the Stone Roses, back in the day!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 12:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Moonage Daydream is a bit of an odd winner. It's good, but Five Years, Starman, Lady Stardust and Rock N Roll Suicide tower over it.
― chap, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:14 (fifteen years ago) link
aladdin sane is a better album overall. much less thin sounding.
― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I prefer Hunky Dory to either. Can't really fuck with any of the 70s stuff though.
― chap, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link
you like lets dance better?
(first three tracks are great fwiw)
― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Er...no.
― chap, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:24 (fifteen years ago) link
i misread cant fuck with them as in 'i cant get into them' rather than 'they're too good'.
― uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:26 (fifteen years ago) link
He has become older and settled down. If he still wanted to be "cutting edge" he would never have made "Heathen" nor "Reality".
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link
I had a dream a few nights ago that Bowie wrote a book called "Women are from Venus, Spiders are from Mars."
― Darin, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I'll rep for Heathen, which I think is fantastic. I never got into Reality half as much, but the tour was fucking great.
― ilxor, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 04:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I loved Heathen.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link
these results are soooo mental...if i had lurked on this page i wdve definitely voted starman...
― seppuku toothbrush (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 12:48 (fifteen years ago) link
bimble is otm though on the Five Years/1977 connection...1977: the year of the Sex Pistols, Eraserhead and Two Sevens Clash...
I'm totally on Mayan Deathwatch Guard Duty now....
― my brain hurts a lot (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 13:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Phew, Ziggy not coming back after all. http://www.nme.com/news/david-bowie/42307
"it's time for the annual Coachella denial" : http://www.davidbowie.com/news/index.php?id=20090127
― StanM, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Check those '73-'76 photos by Geoff MacCormack that are linked below the above news item on bowie's site. Fantastic pics.
― willem, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 19:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Those are great. What was he doing in the Soviet Union in 1973?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link
challopsette city:
"it ain't easy" = as good or better than everything on ziggy stardust, except maybe "suffragette city", "soul love" and "moonage daydream"
― now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 20:17 (fifteen years ago) link
the production on this album is quite irritating. that said, "Starman."
― Jesus Christ, Esq. (res), Thursday, 29 January 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link
neat ffs neat
― zero content albums (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 08:05 (ten years ago) link
david appreciates your support
― outback bumfuc (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 08:16 (ten years ago) link
-_-
― zero content albums (darraghmac), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 08:27 (ten years ago) link
Did I miss the part where people talked about not voting for "Starman?" Like one guy says he didn't because other people would. Personally think it's kind of a corny song, melodically speaking.
― sink floyd (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 10:19 (ten years ago) link
Rock n roll suicide should have been the clear winner here.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 10:28 (ten years ago) link
the Lady was kinda robbed.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:53 (ten years ago) link
yeah that would have been my second choice. best opening verse for sure.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:08 (ten years ago) link
when i was first getting into music like 30 years ago, it seemed like this was the canonical david bowie album, the one that showed up on all the lists etc. now it feels like there isn't really a canonical best bowie album, like everyone has their personal favorites. am i wrong? or is this still generally considered the big bowie album/the one you tell people to start with/etc?
― na (NA), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:14 (two years ago) link
it's a fun album but if personally i'm in a bowie mood it's rarely the one i put on
― na (NA), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:15 (two years ago) link
That's about right. Ziggy was more readily available in the late '80s, I guess?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:19 (two years ago) link
I recognize it as an objectively spectacular, great album - but subjectively, there are loads of Bowie albums which speak to me way more & I'm much more prone to want to listen to.
― Valentijn, Friday, 14 October 2022 14:27 (two years ago) link
OTM. Aladdin Sane = best glam-era Bowie for me, but Ziggy makes/made sense as the consensus classic. Would have voted "Soul Love" here...
― J. Sam, Friday, 14 October 2022 14:38 (two years ago) link
back when it was important to define bowie as a rock musician first and foremost, it made sense that this was the consensus pick
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:45 (two years ago) link
^^^ this
Low, Heroes, Lodger were reissued in 1983 but were out of print iirc by the time Ziggy started appearing in Rolling Stone lists.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 October 2022 14:51 (two years ago) link