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I think, before it all kicks off again, we should keep the wto meanings hinted at above as separate as possible.
1) Making art 'ironically' or with 'irony'.
2) Liking art 'ironically'
I'm sure we're agreed that irony in the first sense is pretty essential, so how's about we look at the second meaning?
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Monday, 1 March 2004 00:27 (twenty years ago) link
For me, as I've said in an article on Freaky Trigger, I love it. It's a way of enjoying music and tends to get looked down upon - as in a few of the posts above - because it's not 'proper', it's not actually 'liking the music', it takes something away from the real, heartbreaking stuff you listen to.
But I think 'irony' opens up so much and you can like things ironically and 'properly' at the same time - in fact I'd argue it's impossible not to.
But more than this - and it's taken years to realise it - but I'm not ashamed of liking things 'ironically', in the pure, 'huh, funny, kitsch' way. I mean, why should I be?
― Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Monday, 1 March 2004 00:32 (twenty years ago) link
Depends on the circumstance. Like what Patrick originally brought up. Some people do it for fear of coming off as stupid, and therefore, are afraid to enjoy things for what they are. It's dishonest smugness I'd rather not be exposed to, but that's just me.
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Monday, 1 March 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago) link