http://music.guardian.co.uk/electron...253995,00.html
― rattlebag, Friday, 8 February 2008 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link
having listened to the mixes on here and a load of the Hercules stuff, can you tell me the difference between all this balearic stuff and what Environ /Balihu has been throwing out for years.
I get all the guitary re-edit stuff but most of the new electronic stuff seems only to be balearic cause its the new name to call everything by.
...just sayin'
― Hamildan, Saturday, 9 February 2008 04:43 (sixteen years ago) link
the thread probably strays off topic sometimes but in general I think Environ/Balihu/Hercules is pretty different from Studio/Aeroplane/some remix of Toto
― dmr, Saturday, 9 February 2008 04:56 (sixteen years ago) link
I often think these loose genre descriptions ("nu-balearic") work better when considered as "constellations" of different sounds. Sometimes the stars are the same or very similar to stars that are in other (previous) constellations, but what is different is the overall picture that emerges by dint of the constellation as a whole. Aeroplane, for example, would probably be classed within general italo revivalism if they weren't consistently grouped in with Studio etc. Likewise, if you simply listened to Todd Terje's (excellent) edit of Dee Dee Sharp's "Easy Money", you'd think he was simply the latest expansive Levan disciple ("what's he doing that Faze Action or Joe Claussel haven't done already, and more radically?")... It's the relationship between that and his remix of Paul Simon that tilts the picture a bit.
This is related to another issue that interests me a bit, which is how at any given time a whole variety of sonic reference points are arranged into different, often apparently oppositional constellations. i.e. in 2002 the Metro Area album and the Playgroup DJ Kicks and a whole bunch of other stuff filled the role that this nu-balearic stuff does now. To some extent what changes is how the different sounds are grouped - i.e. the collapse of 2004-era electro-house entailed the pulling of its stars out of their constellation and into new constellations, with bits of this genre being inherited by minimal, mainstream club music (Fedde De Grand etc.) and Kitsune style electro-rock respectively.
This is what allows the opening and closing of certain channels of sonic influence, depending on how tightly bonded a particular star is to a particular constellation. Balearic is open to rock but you wouldn't put a The Rapture track on a balearic mix because that particular notion of post-punk (fast, blaring, "angular") seems to belong to Kitsune now. And yet... you see Ewan Pearson and LCD Soundsystem and Cut Copy making the speculative leap from one camp to the other (Pearson's singular success perhaps rests in him always appearing to belong to every available camp to some extent at least - you could make similar claims regarding Mauric Fulton, Carl Craig etc. but I think they do this more subtly, e.g. Carl Craig's identity in 2007 is farily unified).
― Tim F, Saturday, 9 February 2008 23:02 (sixteen years ago) link
having fun w/ YOUTUBE:
Here's the top 25 balaeric records as voted for on the v balaeric DJ History board. These were all played on Bill Brewster's show on Kiss(?) yesterday...
1 Tullio de Piscopo - Primavera (Stop Bajon) (Bagaria, 1984) 2 William Pitt - City Lights (Public Sound, 1986) 3 Elkin & Nelson - Jibaro (CBS, 1986) closest i could find 4 Chris Rea - Josephine (Magnet, 1985) 5 Herb Alpert - Rotation (A&M, 1979) 6 Manuel Goettsching - E2-E4 (Inteam, 1984) (5 mins of it anyway) 7 Mandy Smith - I Just Can't Wait (Cool & Breezy Jazz Mix) (PWL, 1987) 8 Dizzi Heights - Would I Find Love (Parlophone, 1986) 9 Art Of Noise - Moments In Love (Island, 1983) 10 It's Immaterial - Driving Away From Home (Virgin, 1986) 11 Carly Simon - Why (WEA, 1982) 12 Sebastien Tellier - La Ritournelle (Lucky Number, 2005) 13 Donna Summer - State of Independence (WEA, 1982) 14 Laid Back - Fly Away/Walking In The Sunshine (CBS, 1983) 15 Kate Bush - Running Up The Hill (EMI, 1985) 16 Cure - Lullaby (Fiction, 1989) 17 Linda Di Franco - TV Scene (WEA, 1985) (extended 12", no video) 18 Flash & The Pan - Walking In The Rain (Epic, 1978) 19 Izit - Stories (ffrr, 1989) 20 Fleetwood Mac - Big Love (Arthur Baker Remix) (Warners, 1987)
ok im bored someone else do the rest 21 Double – The Captain Of Her Heart (Polydor, 1985) 22 The Beloved - The Sun Rising (WEA, 1989) 23 Enzo Avitabile - Blackout (EMI, 1986) 24 Mike Francis - Features Of Love (Concorde, 1985) 25 Richie Havens - Going Back To My Roots (Elektra, 1980)
-- Raw Patrick, Thursday, August 2, 2007 4:09 AM (7 months ago) Bookmark Link
― deej, Thursday, 6 March 2008 08:46 (sixteen years ago) link
"Stop Bajon" - still the best song in the world, ever.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 March 2008 09:12 (sixteen years ago) link
I still need to d/l some of those songs. Hopefully if I just soulseek "balearic" someone will have them all in a folder for me.
― Raw Patrick, Thursday, 6 March 2008 09:26 (sixteen years ago) link
i have all of these on mp3 except herb alpert, flash & the pan and the f'wood mac mix... i can upload a zip later if ppl are interested?
― max, Thursday, 6 March 2008 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link
^^^ Yep!
― Raw Patrick, Thursday, 6 March 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link
that herb alpert is fire
― deej, Thursday, 6 March 2008 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link
can you include the manuel gottsching separately so I don't have to re-download a 50 minute track i already have? thnx
― deej, Thursday, 6 March 2008 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link
lol yeah wasnt gonna u/l it ne way, its easy to find
― max, Thursday, 6 March 2008 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I should sendspace Y. Eye's E2 E4 2001 mix....
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 6 March 2008 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link
KateFan (16 hours ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam It's about the isolation of self. A lover is the most intimate and personal thing that can exist, and yet you can't ever really know what the other person is feeling. They can tell you, but it's not the same as experiance. So if she could she'd make a deal with God and swap places to see and feel what it's like from her lover's point of view. Thats what the song is about.
― jhøshea, Thursday, 6 March 2008 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link
ya jon do it
― max, Thursday, 6 March 2008 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.sendspace.com/file/283s6b
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 6 March 2008 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link
fleetwood arthur baker remix is here: http://www.zshare.net/audio/2195162a6a015a/
― t_g, Thursday, 6 March 2008 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link
yes!
yes please!
thank you!
― or something, Thursday, 6 March 2008 19:49 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.sendspace.com/file/f3h73d
1 thru 12 minus e2-e4
― max, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link
will up the rest (except flash & the pan) in a mo
turns out i had the herb alpert. and i incl. the arthurt baker rmx thx to or something
― max, Thursday, 6 March 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.sendspace.com/file/y2d3pp
― max, Thursday, 6 March 2008 22:46 (sixteen years ago) link
thanks to t g actually, i was thanking him and copied the link by mistake. thanks for this though, max, dloading now but my connection is horribly slow tonight.
― or something, Thursday, 6 March 2008 22:56 (sixteen years ago) link
wow thanks max!
― winston, Friday, 7 March 2008 01:07 (sixteen years ago) link
oh yeah misread--thanks t_g
― max, Friday, 7 March 2008 01:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Upgrade to Max and download files fast, instantly, and ad-free!
― jabba hands, Friday, 7 March 2008 01:23 (sixteen years ago) link
biggest goldmine on ilm just got bigger and better. thanks again for all these max. you deserve a medal.
― or something, Friday, 7 March 2008 01:49 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm a little surprised how straightforward that djhistory chart is. It's definitely a great "rough guide to balearic" though.
― Michael F Gill, Friday, 7 March 2008 02:25 (sixteen years ago) link
uh your josephine is mislabeled max
― deej, Friday, 7 March 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link
i also have a longer version of why if you guys want it
― deej, Friday, 7 March 2008 02:42 (sixteen years ago) link
sry did i upload "la version francaise"
― max, Friday, 7 March 2008 02:46 (sixteen years ago) link
whatever it is it starts going into "Lucky Star" at the end
― deej, Friday, 7 March 2008 02:48 (sixteen years ago) link
its still josephine tho right?
― max, Friday, 7 March 2008 02:51 (sixteen years ago) link
lucky star like the madonna song?
― max, Friday, 7 March 2008 02:52 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga_Kwa7K6v8
its not josephine at all! its some weird disco funk thing?
― deej, Friday, 7 March 2008 02:55 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnYlOcVpgBo
i bet its la version francaise^^^^
― max, Friday, 7 March 2008 03:05 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/release/93454
Track 4 Contains a Sample of "Josephine" Performed by Chris Rea.
― max, Friday, 7 March 2008 03:06 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbCmMaqG8_Q
^^^the vsn you were thinking of?
― max, Friday, 7 March 2008 03:07 (sixteen years ago) link
tbh i dont know if the one i put on is "la version francaise"--does someone who didnt download this on slsk/youtube figure out which version is which
― max, Friday, 7 March 2008 03:12 (sixteen years ago) link
it's la version francaise from classic balearic mastercuts, ie. the correct mix, in the zip file. where's lucky star?? i do like the wee bit of derrick may's sueno latino remix at the start of mandy smith though.
― or something, Friday, 7 March 2008 03:42 (sixteen years ago) link
ya most of this is slsk compiled so there are some tracks w/ mix-in and mix-out and a couple at not great bitrates, sorry!
― max, Friday, 7 March 2008 04:08 (sixteen years ago) link
anyway thx for clearing it up--ive just checked on my home computer, the mp3 is version francaise
i think deej is confused b/c lucky star samples chris rea?
― max, Friday, 7 March 2008 04:09 (sixteen years ago) link
yes
― deej, Friday, 7 March 2008 07:46 (sixteen years ago) link
also because it appears to be the dub of version francais ... there are no vocals!!
― deej, Friday, 7 March 2008 07:47 (sixteen years ago) link
kinda boring imo, when i hear the instrumental it just sounds like its about to become lucky star and then it doesnt
― deej, Friday, 7 March 2008 07:57 (sixteen years ago) link
btw totally love that mandy smith track ... what version is that? way better than this
― deej, Friday, 7 March 2008 07:59 (sixteen years ago) link
i do like the wee bit of derrick may's sueno latino remix at the start of mandy smith though.
-- or something, Thursday, March 6, 2008 9:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
i assumed that was e2-e4 :-p
― deej, Friday, 7 March 2008 08:16 (sixteen years ago) link
thats bizarre i could have sworn my mp3 had vocals! i must have been listening to it on a mix recently or something? because it was stuck in my head all last week.
― max, Friday, 7 March 2008 08:43 (sixteen years ago) link
:P deej u dumbass there are vocals, around 2:20
― max, Friday, 7 March 2008 08:46 (sixteen years ago) link