Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

have a hard time believing that's real

The track-list or MC Eiht on this album?

well shucks

Kendrick Lamar ‏@kendricklamar
Nope. Wrong track list.

he doesn't say it's entirely fake though

some of that is real but it's also missing some confirmed tracks (protip" if you're gonna make a fake tracklist at least remember to put the biggest hit single on there) and just scans as pretty fake to me. also none of the big rap blogs posted it.

that drake song is real tho i think

the Drake song and "Dying of Thirst" are both real

I love Section.80 but more and more I'm thinking there's no way that this isn't gonna be a big disappointment, great as "Cartoons & Cereal" is

i don't know -- i haven't heard anything beyond the two singles but i trust kendrick to have pretty good quality control. both in talking to him and in hearing the stuff that's come out since section.80 i have a hard time believing it won't be a pretty good major label debut. i really got the sense that he makes the music he wants to make so i don't think it's gonna be far from an A&R'd shitpile, but i also think he's good enough that it's not gonna feel like a glorified mixtape a la krit's album.

he told me he did a song with damien marley so that might be on there as well tho i think that they still haven't figured out what exactly is gonna be on the record

so i don't think it's gonna be far from an A&R'd shitpile

scratch "don't" from this

'recipe' is also one of the best songs of the year so theres that

failed banger status

ya recipe is so dope

realizing that kendrick says "what more can i say?" in the chorus deepened my indifference towards that song

that J0rdan post a few posts up assuages my concerns a bit--i kinda thought "swimming pools" was underwhelming and the announcement of that Gaga collabo really had me thinking it was gonna be "an A&R'd shitpile"

still not totally on board with the recipe but i like it a lot more than when i first heard it

kendrick & gaga make total sense to me as a friendship... i get how they could just talk for hours on the phone. their personalities and how they approach music and work within their genres seem very congruous to me. i have no idea if the song is going to be good or not (tho i'm excited to hear it) but i don't think it's gonna sound like kendrick rapping over "paparazzi" or w/e

the Gaga thing seemed to be more about her being a fan and wanting to work w/ him and up his profile than a Wale kind of deal where she was roped in by some label person as a stab at helping him sell records

rap + Gaga has generally been a disaster thus far but i could see it working at some point -- maybe not on a song called "Partynauseous" but still

yeah my understanding was that she called him to say she was a fan and they kind of hit it off from there and eventually got in the studio together

well looks like i didn't look into this enough. just the title + memories of "chillin" and that christina aguilera joint t.i. did a few years ago led me to expect the worst

wanna go on record as saying i also love recipe
so there's a moment where we're on the same page deej
i'm cautiously hopeful on this album after listing .80 in the ground but the guestlist is making me nervous

turns out that tracklist was more or less accurate

in other news the art of peer pressure is pretty fantastic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHrmr0yeSrc

its cool

but wtf, its not touching 'cartoons & cereal' or 'recipe' ... neither of which make it?

apparently "recipe" is one the deluxe edition, lol bloodsucking

i don't really mind "cartoon & cereal" not being on there, i think it kind of has its own mythology

the song w/ dre prod by just blaze has leaked, it's not anything special

http://hiphop-n-more.com/2012/10/kendrick-lamar-compton-feat-dr-dre/

end just makes me hope that quik has a beat on the album

kinda lol at a clearly kendrick-penned dre verse including dre "pass[ing] the torch"

The bi-annual West Coast torch passing ceremony - hosted by Dr. Dre.

It's crazy that Interscope is putting Just Blaze AND Dr. Dre on this album just like they did with The Documentary. Are they trying to make Kendrick the new Game?

oof

haha Interscope "putting" Dr. Dre on the album when Dre signed him to Aftermath -- obviously Dre's constant hunger to make a new West Coast superstar provides plenty of Game parallels without the EERIE PRESENCE OF JUST BLAZE

yeah, plus 50 cent, busta rhymes, kanye west and faith evans. getting kinda creepy, isn't it

first Aftermath album in two years, first non-50/Em album in SIX years

surprised they didn't change the name of the label to Aftermath By Dre

"putting" was definitely the wrong verb, lol. But someone has curated this, obviously.

vitamin water headphones, it doesn't matter anymore

why would you think someone at Interscope curated this instead of Dre himself though?

Because there are A&Rs involved and has been for some time? I doubt that Dre has been very hands on with this, even though he obviously wants to be associated with it.

And that Just Blaze beat has 2006 written all over it. I wish he had switched up his style a little.

A&Rs don't really exist anymore, they're like the music industry illuminati that people like to blame all creative decisions on

"And that Just Blaze beat has 2006 written all over it. I wish he had switched up his style a little."

to be fair, that beat has purportedly been hanging on since '09

(i'd also say a Blaze beat really isn't an example of A&Ring or curating in the first place, the dude's not really as high-profile as he once was minus a couple appearances here and there)

xpost.

True. I happen to know one of the A&R guys who has worked on the Kendrick project a little. He's level headed enough and I know for a fact that he wanted to keep this contemporary and left field. Someone made a bad decision in rounding the album out with Kendrick and Dre rapping about Compton and torch-passing over an old-sounding Just Blaze beat though. I don't know how that happened. Maybe Dre himself is to blame, but it's pretty baffling nonetheless.

"compton" is boilerplate just blaze but i like how kendrick approaches collaboration. he uses other people as props in his arrangements. he obviously wrote dre's verses on this and "the recipe" but it feels like he just wanted another voice to say his shit to bounce his own verse up against. he uses collaborators to further his own material. it feels different than typical ghostwriting

i see this in how he frames gunplay on "cartoon and cereal" (in a way that no one had considered before) and on his work with bj the chicago kid

I mean, the beat is good even though it's hardly mindblowing and also sounds a bit old. And The Recipe sounds great with Dre on it. It's just the combination of the two that doesn't work. I agree that Kendrick approaches collaboration in new ways though.

re the A&R talk

maybe i'm a sucker but when i talked to kendrick i got the sense that he was pretty in control of the project -- the fact that the lady gaga collab got left off this is probably as good an indication of that as anything. i don't know... the guy has built up a pretty good fanbase and his singles so far haven't been outrageously off-course for him and he's rocking good venues... maybe people at the label realized it would be good to leave him be. i don't know tho, i guess we'll see the production credits & final product.

i hate that beat on "compton"... it's dinner party just blaze from the 'kingdom come' era. also i still maintain that dre sounds utterly ridiculous on "the recipe" and that it's a rather poor bit of ghostwriting

i see this in how he frames gunplay on "cartoon and cereal" (in a way that no one had considered before)

this is true, tho. i mean he's done his fair share of check cashing ("power circle," that joint on the khaled album) but i think his collaborations are very well-thought out and tailored. gunplay is a perfect example of something that shocks you on paper but the song just makes total sense, he put gunplay's intensity and pain in a new context but one that really works.

re the A&R talk

maybe i'm a sucker but when i talked to kendrick i got the sense that he was pretty in control of the project -- the fact that the lady gaga collab got left off this is probably as good an indication of that as anything. i don't know... the guy has built up a pretty good fanbase and his singles so far haven't been outrageously off-course for him and he's rocking good venues... maybe people at the label realized it would be good to leave him be. i don't know tho, i guess we'll see the production credits & final product.

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, October 2, 2012 9:54 PM (57 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well that's precisely why the Compton song and its placement as the last song on the regular album seems so strange and almost like a false note to me. Who is it for? I think everyone wants him to succeed right now and that everyone has accepted that he is going to do it on his own terms. But Compton just feels as if it belongs on another album than the one that has been set up so far.

it's dinner party just blaze from the 'kingdom come' era.

but all his beats on kingdom come are unstoppably huge?

Which ones? Nothing works on Kingdom Come.

Well that's precisely why the Compton song and its placement as the last song on the regular album seems so strange and almost like a false note to me. Who is it for? I think everyone wants him to succeed right now and that everyone has accepted that he is going to do it on his own terms. But Compton just feels as if it belongs on another album than the one that has been set up so far.

― longneck, Tuesday, October 2, 2012 5:00 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

i mean it's a weird collaboration no doubt. i'm not necessarily saying that every move kendrick makes is perfect, but it's possible he just wanted to rap over a bombastic just blaze beat