Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

Yeah, that's Anna Wise, apparently. She came in when they decided the Gaga version didn't quite work.

Speaking of bonus tracks, this The Heart pt 3 is pretty nice. Way better than the MJB one, at least.

xxp yeah i mean dudes spend most of recent years bemoaning the death of the album and now you've got a bona fide crafted one to chew on it's all i dont like this bonus track and i wish they coulda bodged this other track in somehow. which is it to be

To me it's pretty much as perfect as it needs to be either way.

i cant even really imagine gaga on bdkmv, way unnecessary celebrity wattage

these songs are undercut with a degree of selfawareness of the compromises of his narratorial perspective. (his prostitute rages back at him for getting involved and misrepresenting, even explicitly throws 'brenda's got a baby' at him if we wanna play that game)

yeah that's why, even if it's one of the weaker songs on here, i'd still take "real" over the similar songs on his last one. it still sorta sticks out as the bum track to me though, even "compton" sounds a little better in context

what do people make of the extended "swimming pools?"

probably a little heavy in literalising what was already inherent in the normal version (then again how heavy can you be if the track lives on on radio as a crunk anthem regardless?) but a pretty neat bridge into the sherane thing and into what comes next

lots of good little callbacks throughout the album, like (first one that comes to mind) the whole "where your grandma stay huh my nigga" skit coming back screwed as the echoing despotism of 'maad city'

lol 'crunk anthem', song is almost as terrible as "bitch bad" imo

this is maybe a classic

gonna go ahead and ask if anybody can point me to where this is streaming / downloadable

do u have what

nope

should i?

i don't have any invites but yeah it's useful

check what i think is your twitter

lol, i don't ever look at my twitter! I think i just parked my shit there.
anyways, i google-fu'd it. gracias

ok

"bitch don't kill my vibe" has maybe the best beat on the album

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 21 October 2012 16:14 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah otm, & it kinda exemplifies where the album drifts tonally after.

i love the girl singing the hook on the jam w/jay rock too, idk who it is.
i deleted half of this to ensure i go buy it but i'm p sure i love it front to back also.

his "plight of a woman" songs are really the worst, although the one on this isn't as bad as "no makeup" or "keisha's song" were on section.80.

wait, do others here think "keisha's song" sucks? i'm so-so on the hook, but like the verses a lot.

nah i think that's just contrarianism on my part

sorry but if you ask me this is a really shallow kind of "everything is fodder for my unique brand of stand up comedy" crit. not saying dude is the most nuanced spokesperson of all time but he's not drake either, he's not glib or patronising and to an extent these songs are undercut with a degree of selfawareness of the compromises of his narratorial perspective. (his prostitute rages back at him for getting involved and misrepresenting, even explicitly throws 'brenda's got a baby' at him if we wanna play that game)

'bitch don't kill my vibe' is dull out of context sure but on this album establishes the mindset the subsequent tracks grow out of - it's not useless wallowing in the same way i dead ocean & solange et al for

it is shallow crit, i've only listened twice! what i specifically found skeevy about the plight-of-a-woman songs is how kendrick goes out of his way to titillate, to sexualise them at the same time as using them as a moral example. he doesn't succeed in humanising sherane, it's like he's fetishising her situation. which is the exact opposite of what pac did on "brenda's got a baby" obv.

"bitch don't kill my vibe" has a nice dreamy beat (not the best on the album though), i was just saying that kendrick's hook is pretty much unlistenable

the MJB track is terrible, yes

agree that "compton" works in this context, not that i thought it was especially awful anyway

it is shallow crit, i've only listened twice! what i specifically found skeevy about the plight-of-a-woman songs is how kendrick goes out of his way to titillate, to sexualise them at the same time as using them as a moral example. he doesn't succeed in humanising sherane, it's like he's fetishising her situation. which is the exact opposite of what pac did on "brenda's got a baby" obv.

"bitch don't kill my vibe" has a nice dreamy beat (not the best on the album though), i was just saying that kendrick's hook is pretty much unlistenable

― lex pretend, Monday, October 22, 2012 7:10 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this does not accurately describe how sherane exists on this record

yes it does

i was going to type something else but if you're not going to go beyond "no it doesn't"/"yes it does" i can't be bothered either

I was going to type "no it doesn't" too but then I repented. So please do type it out.

obviously everyone said this already, but this is great.

so i'll just say - LOOK! new song - http://soundcloud.com/topdawgent/kendrick-lamar-the-heart-pt-3

Can we change the title of this thread, y, because it is horrible

predictably, so far I've loved every song on here except for the one with Drake on it

hilariously awful thread title stays forever imo

starting the campaign now for next goon thread to be titled "rolling killing your favorite rapper for money 2013 thread"

still a little disappointed there's no BJ the Chicago Kid hook on this album, I like their collaborations so much. Did his (BJ's) album get discussed anywhere on ILX? I didn't see it on the R&B thread.

it's kinda weird/cool to me to see so many ppl repping for stuff that's so backpackerish, but i wish i liked kendrick more, or was more enthusiastic about him

the part of this new "the heart" song...the part where he lets his voice get all emo...his flow is SUPER brother ali on that part, total trademark ali flow

Was thinking the SAME thing.

still a little disappointed there's no BJ the Chicago Kid hook on this album, I like their collaborations so much. Did his (BJ's) album get discussed anywhere on ILX? I didn't see it on the R&B thread.

― boxall, Monday, October 22, 2012 9:42 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was gonna bring it up on the r&b thread. I really like the BJ album and think it warrants some discussion.

uh ok for a start sherane isnt even part of the "plight of a woman" business, she's a narrative device to get into the gang plot? even in that depiction the titillation is self-aware and foreshadowing "seventeen, with nothing but pussy stuck on my mental my motive was rather sinful", "my tactics of being thirsty probably could hurt me but fuck it i got some heart"

keisha's sister of plight fame is voiced in first person and is self-glorified is as part of her defensive hollow bravado. perhaps a little clumsy if you're being very harsh but it's in no way badminded, ambitious, and imo is enough to illustrate an difficult situation. i will agree however that "my titties bounce on the cadence of his tingling keys" is probably the one line on the entire record that deserves the accusation of prurience

going all in on one line, when it's mitigated by the whole rest of the record, (and when you yourself say it's from only a couple of listens) smacks pretty obviously of finding any excuse to grind a cartoon axe and is not a particularly good look considering the weight of the accusation being thrown

it's kinda weird/cool to me to see so many ppl repping for stuff that's so backpackerish, but i wish i liked kendrick more, or was more enthusiastic about him

― terrell sug (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, October 22, 2012 11:49 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

??? its not really that backpackerish imo

the heart song i was talking about it crazy backpacker! plus i think black hippy is backpackerish in general! one of them is named "Ab-Soul" that name screams "guest verse of a Blackalicious song"

Ab-Soul and Jay Rock's names have always amused me because years ago i knew a backpacker cat named Ab Rock

http://soundcloud.com/jay-soul

oh shit i forgot about this, it's even more confusing than i thought: http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/jsoul99/JROCK_Cover.jpg

the heart song i was talking about it crazy backpacker! plus i think black hippy is backpackerish in general! one of them is named "Ab-Soul" that name screams "guest verse of a Blackalicious song"

― terrell sug (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, October 22, 2012 12:31 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ab-Soul and Jay Rock's names have always amused me because years ago i knew a backpacker cat named Ab Rock

― my mansplain songz (some dude), Monday, October 22, 2012 12:40 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and the songs where kendrick describes watching a dude's brains get blown out, or coming up in compton, or breaking & entering?

it's way more nuanced than a simple backpacker v street rap thing

i think your "don't use the b word" stance is more absolutist than m@tt's "there are backpacker elemtns here" stance

isn't "backpacker" defined by a strict anti-mainstream stance? which is nowhere on this, i mean dr. fucking dre and lady gaga are on it...

that's not the sole defitnion or even the primary definition, no

http://www.rap-up.com/2012/10/22/new-music-kendrick-lamar-swimming-pools-black-hippy-remix/

i love the chicago kid album

yeah of course that's not the sole definition, but it's why it's used as a derogatory term, no?

m@tt wasn't using it in a derogatory way though