Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

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nice

We do live in a fallen, depraved world destined for the fire. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 27 October 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago)

here's the studio version that was actually sampled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut5D6FXE2dM

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 27 October 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, I just prefer the live version.

O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Saturday, 27 October 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago)

realize this is probably too soon or too corny but just going to throw this out there & see if anyone else is willing to take the bait: this is the best rap album in years

flopson, Saturday, 27 October 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago)

i'd put it right up w/ take care, flockaveli & book of david for best of the decade so far

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 27 October 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago)

yeah, to me it's distinctly better than "take care," but that's also the most easily comparable of those three; doesnt really make much sense to compare it to something as monolithic as flockavelli. 2 me this takes a lot the things that blew me away about tc (lush production, bummed out introspective vibe, as youve noted the entire aesthetic package) but much more in step with rap tradition esp west coast rap albums, it reminds me of reasons that i love rap, some that i havenèt thought about or felt in years. whereas tc was more a rejection of a lot of these traditions

flopson, Saturday, 27 October 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago)

prefer blaqkout (of /recent/ records) but this is still p.good

MVP ("most viking poster") 2012 (cozen), Saturday, 27 October 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago)

i think you could make analogies to both take care (sonically, point of view) & flockaveli (vision, singularity)

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 27 October 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago)

lol take care

extremely loud and incredible hulk (some dude), Saturday, 27 October 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago)

i don't think this is anywhere near as singular as flockaveli. the miracle of the flock imo is that it's 70 minutes of relentlessly aggressive and repetitive music & yet is a total pleasure to listen to all the way thru the millionth time, good kid mad city is so cinematic

flopson, Saturday, 27 October 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago)

realize this is probably too soon or too corny but just going to throw this out there & see if anyone else is willing to take the bait: this is the best rap album in years

I will absolutely take that bait

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Sunday, 28 October 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago)

so will I. This and The Book of David (my favorite album of 2011) easily in my top whatever.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 October 2012 03:13 (twelve years ago)

the voice is still a huge roadblock for me, dude sounds like Kirko Bangz

extremely loud and incredible hulk (some dude), Sunday, 28 October 2012 12:48 (twelve years ago)

It's been driving me nuts who he sounds like sometimes and it just hit me: beldar the weedsmoking alien from that devin the dude song

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 28 October 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago)

lol

the man with 2 BRAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINZ! (some dude), Sunday, 28 October 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago)

fucking dammit, i was waiting to post that for three days >:(

croup the color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 October 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago)

i'm still on my honeymoon technically, so I'm not posting about how Kendrick sounds like Zeldar even though I've been sitting on that comment for three days now so

croup the color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 October 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago)

omg

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Sunday, 28 October 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago)

Haha yeah that's probably the biggest issue for me too at the moment, love everything else about this album.

Tim F, Sunday, 28 October 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago)

i'm cool with his voice honestly. he's fluent and interesting.
course, i love zeldar. and he shops at wal mart.

We do live in a fallen, depraved world destined for the fire. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 October 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago)

yeah, I love Kendrick's voice but the Zeldar thing is so on-point.

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Sunday, 28 October 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago)

Ha ha sorry I almost feel bad now, sorry whiney, congrats btw...but it's perfect in some way that you were sitting in that

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago)

That was gonna be my big comeback post u_u

croup the color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 28 October 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago)

Christ this record is great

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 29 October 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago)

writers all like it bc he thinks like a writer

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 29 October 2012 03:34 (twelve years ago)

this Boom Clap Bachelors album is pretty dope tbh

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 29 October 2012 03:44 (twelve years ago)

in spite of their terrible name

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 29 October 2012 03:44 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, the VOICE. And the chameleon thing he has going on, they throw me. He had a verse on Schoolboy's last album and his voice was so scabrous and scratchy that I wanted to reach into the album and hand the guy a bag of Ricola

As a consequence I dunno if I can take the whole album in one shot - bought "Swimming Pools" on iTunes tonight. Also a Trae tha Truth song about being from Texas which is awesome.

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 29 October 2012 04:10 (twelve years ago)

writers all like it bc he thinks like a writer
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, October 29, 2012

this sounds very right

We do live in a fallen, depraved world destined for the fire. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 October 2012 04:25 (twelve years ago)

Human beings like him because he thinks like a human being too.

O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Monday, 29 October 2012 06:46 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6glR0bSb_4

We do live in a fallen, depraved world destined for the fire. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 October 2012 07:06 (twelve years ago)

Human beings like him because he thinks like a human being too.

― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Monday, October 29, 2012 1:46 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah but that applies to lots of rappers

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 29 October 2012 07:25 (twelve years ago)

Lol

Tim F, Monday, 29 October 2012 07:51 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, and I don't disagree with your assessment. But it's rare to see the almost universal support this album is getting. And I think what Noz wrote about it being easier to admire than to enjoy is factually wrong. From what I can tell, this is getting a lot of play from a lot of people who do actually enjoy it and enjoy it a lot. To me, it's one of those rare albums that I can put on at almost any time. It even works after the Sunday brunch with the wife and kids.

O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Monday, 29 October 2012 07:52 (twelve years ago)

Is it cool if I mentally append "...ya bish!" to the end of every post itt?

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 29 October 2012 08:08 (twelve years ago)

And I think what Noz wrote about it being easier to admire than to enjoy is factually wrong

i don't think this is the sort of statement that can be factually wrong? where did noz write this?

i'm deeply suspicious of the rapturous 5/5 encomiums it's getting based on less than a week of listening but the across-the-board praise isn't surprising, it'd be very hard to argue that this is a bad album in any way - even the dissenters from the 5/5 praise (and there are some, thankfully) just think it's flawed or uneven.

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 08:37 (twelve years ago)

i'd put it right up w/ take care

right up there! lol.

blaqkout >>>>> any of the albums you were mentioning

i don't think this is even the best rap album of THIS year

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 08:38 (twelve years ago)

True. "Factually wrong" was overstating it.

Noz:

It's a completely exhausting listen, one that might prove easier to admire than enjoy. But at the very least, it's never anything less than fascinating. A master craftsman should be entitled to some degree of self-indulgence.

http://www.spin.com/reviews/kendrick-lamar-good-kid-maad-city-interscopeaftermath

I do think, however, that the writerly concept-album approach is something that allows this album to become really emotional and affecting without being too in your face/sincere. The epic distance that the storyline creates is liberating and in some paradoxical way makes this album more direct and, yes, lovable, than the no-filter approach of Section.80 could accomplish.

O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Monday, 29 October 2012 08:50 (twelve years ago)

The epic distance that the storyline creates is liberating and in some paradoxical way makes this album more direct and, yes, lovable, than the no-filter approach of Section.80 could accomplish.

the paradox of craft. deej otm

Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 29 October 2012 08:53 (twelve years ago)

i don't think this is even the best rap album of THIS year

― lex pretend, Monday, October 29, 2012 1:38 AM Bookmark

I'm not sure this is the best Kendrick Lamar album.

Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 29 October 2012 09:09 (twelve years ago)

haven't heard the whole Meek Mill album yet but i like Caramanica's take on MM vs. Kendrick:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/29/arts/music/kendrick-lamar-and-meek-mill-rappers-with-debut-albums.html?ref=arts&pagewanted=all

some dude, Monday, 29 October 2012 12:04 (twelve years ago)

good piece

Tim F, Monday, 29 October 2012 12:13 (twelve years ago)

wouldve been more impressed by a kendrick/taylor swift comparison but yeah

idk i guess i'll need to sit myself through dreams & nightmares again. i wanted a meekaveli though

r|t|c, Monday, 29 October 2012 12:23 (twelve years ago)

Do you guys get paid everytime you mention taylor swift or something?

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago)

seriously

some dude, Monday, 29 October 2012 14:16 (twelve years ago)

True. "Factually wrong" was overstating it.

Noz:

It's a completely exhausting listen, one that might prove easier to admire than enjoy. But at the very least, it's never anything less than fascinating. A master craftsman should be entitled to some degree of self-indulgence.

http://www.spin.com/reviews/kendrick-lamar-good-kid-maad-city-interscopeaftermath

I do think, however, that the writerly concept-album approach is something that allows this album to become really emotional and affecting without being too in your face/sincere. The epic distance that the storyline creates is liberating and in some paradoxical way makes this album more direct and, yes, lovable, than the no-filter approach of Section.80 could accomplish.

― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Monday, October 29, 2012 4:50 AM (5 hours ago)

i think there's some truth to the "easier to admire than to enjoy" line, it's a criticism that's pulled out sometimes for "important albums" like this - it's actually reminiscent of some of the criticism i heard of MBDTF, i actually could have sworn i remember noz writing that exact same thing about that album, but maybe it was someone else - but really WRT this line kanye's record is the reverse - MBDTF had some cool sounds and a good single or two, but the more you were exposed to it or really thought about it, the more you just rolled your eyes.

all mods con (k3vin k.), Monday, 29 October 2012 14:26 (twelve years ago)

nah its bs standard rap blogger posturing

flopson, Monday, 29 October 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago)

tedious statler & waldorf routine would've worked better if i actually was an avowed taylorette. unlucky guys

there ought to be more leeway in admire/love than the phrase traditionally invokes. i might not ever cherish this album but admiration can still be positive and meaningful

r|t|c, Monday, 29 October 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago)

nah there's no routine more tedious than "bring up taylor swift out of the blue on non-country thread," was kind of appalled you went for it

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago)

there are plenty of albums i consider more of a creative or technical achievement than a joy to listen to and still value highly. at the end of the day i'm not sure how much of an achievement "drake album w/ street cred and better rapping" really is though.

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago)


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