Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

writers all like it bc he thinks like a writer

this Boom Clap Bachelors album is pretty dope tbh

in spite of their terrible name

Yeah, the VOICE. And the chameleon thing he has going on, they throw me. He had a verse on Schoolboy's last album and his voice was so scabrous and scratchy that I wanted to reach into the album and hand the guy a bag of Ricola

As a consequence I dunno if I can take the whole album in one shot - bought "Swimming Pools" on iTunes tonight. Also a Trae tha Truth song about being from Texas which is awesome.

writers all like it bc he thinks like a writer
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, October 29, 2012

Human beings like him because he thinks like a human being too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6glR0bSb_4

Human beings like him because he thinks like a human being too.

― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Monday, October 29, 2012 1:46 AM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah but that applies to lots of rappers

Lol

Yeah, and I don't disagree with your assessment. But it's rare to see the almost universal support this album is getting. And I think what Noz wrote about it being easier to admire than to enjoy is factually wrong. From what I can tell, this is getting a lot of play from a lot of people who do actually enjoy it and enjoy it a lot. To me, it's one of those rare albums that I can put on at almost any time. It even works after the Sunday brunch with the wife and kids.

Is it cool if I mentally append "...ya bish!" to the end of every post itt?

And I think what Noz wrote about it being easier to admire than to enjoy is factually wrong

i don't think this is the sort of statement that can be factually wrong? where did noz write this?

i'm deeply suspicious of the rapturous 5/5 encomiums it's getting based on less than a week of listening but the across-the-board praise isn't surprising, it'd be very hard to argue that this is a bad album in any way - even the dissenters from the 5/5 praise (and there are some, thankfully) just think it's flawed or uneven.

i'd put it right up w/ take care

right up there! lol.

blaqkout >>>>> any of the albums you were mentioning

i don't think this is even the best rap album of THIS year

True. "Factually wrong" was overstating it.

Noz:

It's a completely exhausting listen, one that might prove easier to admire than enjoy. But at the very least, it's never anything less than fascinating. A master craftsman should be entitled to some degree of self-indulgence.

http://www.spin.com/reviews/kendrick-lamar-good-kid-maad-city-interscopeaftermath

I do think, however, that the writerly concept-album approach is something that allows this album to become really emotional and affecting without being too in your face/sincere. The epic distance that the storyline creates is liberating and in some paradoxical way makes this album more direct and, yes, lovable, than the no-filter approach of Section.80 could accomplish.

The epic distance that the storyline creates is liberating and in some paradoxical way makes this album more direct and, yes, lovable, than the no-filter approach of Section.80 could accomplish.

the paradox of craft. deej otm

i don't think this is even the best rap album of THIS year

― lex pretend, Monday, October 29, 2012 1:38 AM Bookmark

I'm not sure this is the best Kendrick Lamar album.

haven't heard the whole Meek Mill album yet but i like Caramanica's take on MM vs. Kendrick:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/29/arts/music/kendrick-lamar-and-meek-mill-rappers-with-debut-albums.html?ref=arts&pagewanted=all

good piece

wouldve been more impressed by a kendrick/taylor swift comparison but yeah

idk i guess i'll need to sit myself through dreams & nightmares again. i wanted a meekaveli though

Do you guys get paid everytime you mention taylor swift or something?

seriously

True. "Factually wrong" was overstating it.

Noz:

It's a completely exhausting listen, one that might prove easier to admire than enjoy. But at the very least, it's never anything less than fascinating. A master craftsman should be entitled to some degree of self-indulgence.

http://www.spin.com/reviews/kendrick-lamar-good-kid-maad-city-interscopeaftermath

I do think, however, that the writerly concept-album approach is something that allows this album to become really emotional and affecting without being too in your face/sincere. The epic distance that the storyline creates is liberating and in some paradoxical way makes this album more direct and, yes, lovable, than the no-filter approach of Section.80 could accomplish.

― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Monday, October 29, 2012 4:50 AM (5 hours ago)

i think there's some truth to the "easier to admire than to enjoy" line, it's a criticism that's pulled out sometimes for "important albums" like this - it's actually reminiscent of some of the criticism i heard of MBDTF, i actually could have sworn i remember noz writing that exact same thing about that album, but maybe it was someone else - but really WRT this line kanye's record is the reverse - MBDTF had some cool sounds and a good single or two, but the more you were exposed to it or really thought about it, the more you just rolled your eyes.

nah its bs standard rap blogger posturing

tedious statler & waldorf routine would've worked better if i actually was an avowed taylorette. unlucky guys

there ought to be more leeway in admire/love than the phrase traditionally invokes. i might not ever cherish this album but admiration can still be positive and meaningful

nah there's no routine more tedious than "bring up taylor swift out of the blue on non-country thread," was kind of appalled you went for it

there are plenty of albums i consider more of a creative or technical achievement than a joy to listen to and still value highly. at the end of the day i'm not sure how much of an achievement "drake album w/ street cred and better rapping" really is though.

noz only said that bc he wants to distance himself from (inevitably embarrassing) hype around the album, otherwise it`s either an empty statement or a snide dismissal in the vein of "i admire your technical expertise"

noz isn't actually being dismissive of the album at all though

ya i know that's why i said it's bs

he's trying to position himself above the fray of hype, but using a tired binary

man ships what is this whiney wannabe day you're having, shit is sad

haha let's just say we're disappointed in each other and be done w/ it

i haven't heard a song off the new album that i like as much as his older songs, but i haven't heard the whole thing yet. will buy it this week if the cd store doesn't float away. gonna buy my 3 cds for the year. might be converge, kendrick, and fiona.

like the piece contrasting meek/kendrick w/illmatic

got me thinking, in retrospect was illmatic the first album to really do the "let's get individual tracks from a bunch of top producers" template that later became dominant?

we def had a convo about that on some rap thread in the last couple years but i can't remember whether people generally agreed w/ that or suggested some precursors

i can't really think of anything too obvious....nas also was one of the first rappers i remember who had a huge buzz in advance of his album coming out, i mean not that some ppl didn't have a pre release buzz but the whole album was kind of constructed like it was a "big event" in advance, where all these producers were brought together because nas was already going to be assumed to be a big deal...with i guess his verse of live at the bbq taking the place of what today would be a huge mixtape....

yeah it's kind of a bummer that a single guest verse so rarely has that kind of impact on a career anymore. now if anything it's about how many guest verses you can do.

does anyone but me and number none think "maad city" is the best song on this or is it too much of an outlier for everyone else? sorta wish he'd rap like that all the time

It's close. I still can't shake the impression "Sherane" left on me though.

"good kid" and "maad city" are the best songs on this imo and it's really not close

Maad City for me too.

"Real" is the only one that annoys me.

whole thing is still all too deliriously good 2 me, can't pick moments yet

hate every song on this

oh shit real talk just stepped in the thread

i would love it if j0rdan wasn't joking

wouldve been more impressed by a kendrick/taylor swift comparison but yeah

http://superworse.com/post/33895017645/arbitrary-pairings-kendrick-lamar-and-taylor-swift

easier to admire than enjoy didn't really do it for me either too imprecise

i greatly enjoy admiring this album, i dont think it will get tons of replay but that doesn't necessarily mean it wont be more meaningful to me than records i do play a lot

i spent more time *thinking* about it than i do most albums, and not bc i had to write about it or something, but bc it really resonates imo

i'm not even as high on it as others but i'm finding it pretty listenable and repeatable - it does keep on giving, lots of things you don't pick up on at first