Kendrick Lamar will kill your favorite rapper for money

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he's trying to position himself above the fray of hype, but using a tired binary

flopson, Monday, 29 October 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

man ships what is this whiney wannabe day you're having, shit is sad

r|t|c, Monday, 29 October 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

haha let's just say we're disappointed in each other and be done w/ it

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

i haven't heard a song off the new album that i like as much as his older songs, but i haven't heard the whole thing yet. will buy it this week if the cd store doesn't float away. gonna buy my 3 cds for the year. might be converge, kendrick, and fiona.

scott seward, Monday, 29 October 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

like the piece contrasting meek/kendrick w/illmatic

got me thinking, in retrospect was illmatic the first album to really do the "let's get individual tracks from a bunch of top producers" template that later became dominant?

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

we def had a convo about that on some rap thread in the last couple years but i can't remember whether people generally agreed w/ that or suggested some precursors

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

i can't really think of anything too obvious....nas also was one of the first rappers i remember who had a huge buzz in advance of his album coming out, i mean not that some ppl didn't have a pre release buzz but the whole album was kind of constructed like it was a "big event" in advance, where all these producers were brought together because nas was already going to be assumed to be a big deal...with i guess his verse of live at the bbq taking the place of what today would be a huge mixtape....

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it's kind of a bummer that a single guest verse so rarely has that kind of impact on a career anymore. now if anything it's about how many guest verses you can do.

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

does anyone but me and number none think "maad city" is the best song on this or is it too much of an outlier for everyone else? sorta wish he'd rap like that all the time

all mods con (k3vin k.), Monday, 29 October 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

It's close. I still can't shake the impression "Sherane" left on me though.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 October 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

"good kid" and "maad city" are the best songs on this imo and it's really not close

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

Maad City for me too.

Luchinski pourin' from the sky, let's get rich (what) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 29 October 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

"Real" is the only one that annoys me.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 October 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

whole thing is still all too deliriously good 2 me, can't pick moments yet

flopson, Monday, 29 October 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

hate every song on this

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 29 October 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

oh shit real talk just stepped in the thread

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

i would love it if j0rdan wasn't joking

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

wouldve been more impressed by a kendrick/taylor swift comparison but yeah

http://superworse.com/post/33895017645/arbitrary-pairings-kendrick-lamar-and-taylor-swift

Mercer Finn, Monday, 29 October 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link

easier to admire than enjoy didn't really do it for me either too imprecise

i greatly enjoy admiring this album, i dont think it will get tons of replay but that doesn't necessarily mean it wont be more meaningful to me than records i do play a lot

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

i spent more time *thinking* about it than i do most albums, and not bc i had to write about it or something, but bc it really resonates imo

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

i'm not even as high on it as others but i'm finding it pretty listenable and repeatable - it does keep on giving, lots of things you don't pick up on at first

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

i don't really like this album all that much and i feel like an asshole

croup the color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

same here but those 2 thoughts aren't related for me

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

Obviously dude has rhymes for days and immeasurable skill and is a gifted storyteller but

*deep breath*

the beats are butter-soft and its seriously like the most overproduced "rap" album since The Love Below, and most of the runtime is eaten up by choruses and bridges that go on forever, forever ever, forever ever; not to mention dude has literally the worst voice in rap history this side of reh dogg (it's Zeldar-meets-Cudi); not to mention that if anyone this side of Lupe dropped a 69-minute "short film" they'd be laughed off ilx; not to mention that there's Beach House samples and a 12-minute song with a Deep Puddle Dynamics title; not to mention that he's completely tuneless KENDRICK HAVE A DRREEAM when he's trying to be Tupac or Kanye or Eminem or whatever.

I dunno, I love the Black Hippy stuff cause it's just rapping and dude can rap \o_O/

croup the color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

The comma splice in the 12-minute song hurt you too eh

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think i've ever thought about outkast listening to his stuff. or the roots. stop mentioning outkast. the length thing can definitely be problematic. pretty much no album on earth should be over 45 minutes.

scott seward, Monday, 29 October 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i only forgive albums for being longer than vinyl-length when they're huge major label investments and it's like well hey you recorded all that stuff, get your money's worth

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

illmatic is under 40 minutes long. even the first outkast album is over an hour long. i blame them for everything.

scott seward, Monday, 29 October 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

does he ever find the dominoes

w g sniffy walgarten (cozen), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

mid-'90s was really the point when everything got compact disc bloat, for a few years it was only occasional bold types going much past the 50-minute park

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link

don't forget that 1998 region where 8Ball and Master P and E-40 and Biggie were doing DOUBLE DISC EVERYTHING

croup the color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link

haha the 8Ball is actually a triple disc, they tacked a Suave House comp onto it. the whole thing is pretty solid!

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

biggie wasn't doing much in 1998

all mods con (k3vin k.), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

trying to remember the last rapper that got away w/ a big double album -- Lupe TRIED to this year but the label talked him into splitting it up and dropping the other half next year

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

I love the 8 Ball but I never listened to the third disc

croup the color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

trying to remember the last rapper that got away w/ a big double album

― Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, October 29, 2012 2:44 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stop mentioning outkast.

― scott seward, Monday, October 29, 2012 2:27 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

croup the color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

UGK 4 Life probably the last major label rap double disc? can't believe Kanye hasn't done one yet

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link

btw whiney did you have the good fortune to honeymoon outside hurricane territory?

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

haha the 8Ball is actually a triple disc, they tacked a Suave House comp onto it. the whole thing is pretty solid!

― Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, October 29, 2012 11:42 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I have this up in my cube cos that 96 Impala is still my dream car. Great stuff.

Luchinski pourin' from the sky, let's get rich (what) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

E-40's were kinda double albums in effect

lex pretend, Monday, 29 October 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but they were independent distro cult hero things, i was talking about big unit-shifting major label releases

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

outkast didn't get away w/that double alb

w g sniffy walgarten (cozen), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, only made out with 3 Grammys and 5 million units sold

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link

aw man <3<3<3 to have whiney back w/deep puddle dynamics and reh dogg references

seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 29 October 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

underground kingz

fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 29 October 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

i honeymooned in Cape Cod. We did a 1,000-piece jigsaw puzzle and I saw a whale and I bought the Kendrick album

croup the color of mayonnaise (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 October 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

oh shit... were meek and ross with wale?

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 29 October 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

underground kingz

― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, October 29, 2012 3:06 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha er yeah got the titles confused

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

j0rdan what the hell was that post

Victory Goon (some dude), Monday, 29 October 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link


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